Donald Trump: The money will bring him down

[bripat9643]

You mean his totally legal behavior?

Yes, his totally legal, yet incredibly bizarre pu lic behavior.

If his behavior is totally legal, then there's no basis for an investigation, you fucking dumbass.

What? Haha...where in the world do you get this fantasy? You are saying absurd things.

Are you saying it's OK for the government to conduct an investigation of someone who isn't even suspected of committing a crime?

Obstruction is a crime. Drumpf is a suspect.

So Trump was suspected of obstruction in the Spring of 2016?

 

[Asclepias]

Yes, his totally legal, yet incredibly bizarre pu lic behavior.

If his behavior is totally legal, then there's no basis for an investigation, you fucking dumbass.

What? Haha...where in the world do you get this fantasy? You are saying absurd things.

Are you saying it's OK for the government to conduct an investigation of someone who isn't even suspected of committing a crime?

Obstruction is a crime. Drumpf is a suspect.

So Trump was suspected of obstruction in the Spring of 2016?

Probably money laundering at that time.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Rosenstein approved it on the basis of nothing.

Worse, he approved it based on a Clinton originated falsehood.

Not true at all. He approved it based completely on Trump's behavior. You are both nuts.

He approved it based completely on Trump's behavior.

Really? Not based on the Steele Dossier?

Correct. That is why the investigation was approved to also include obstruction.

They got FISA warrants based on what Trump behavior, independent of the Clinton...err...Steele Dossier?

Ah, changing lanes. We were talking about the Mueller investigation. But good luck on your crusade to outsmart the Fisa court.

Ah, changing lanes. We were talking about the Mueller investigation.

Ah, so without the fraudulent FISA applications, what would Mueller be investigating again?

 

[bripat9643]

If his behavior is totally legal, then there's no basis for an investigation, you fucking dumbass.

What? Haha...where in the world do you get this fantasy? You are saying absurd things.

Are you saying it's OK for the government to conduct an investigation of someone who isn't even suspected of committing a crime?

Obstruction is a crime. Drumpf is a suspect.

So Trump was suspected of obstruction in the Spring of 2016?

Probably money laundering at that time.

"probably?" You mean you don't have a fucking clue. Do you believe this is the kind of lame-assed shit we should base our legal system on?

Face it, you believe the FBI should be able to investigate anyone for any reason - so long as they're Republicans, that is.

 

[Eyepublius]

Good site and some good posts, too. One from me here >>>

S.W.A.G. = Scientific Wild Ass Guess


The time Trump first met Justin Kennedy from Deutsche Bank
(Then he got the $1 billion loan later ... neat trick, um?)

 

[bripat9643]

Good site and some good posts, too. One from me here >>>

S.W.A.G. = Scientific Wild Ass Guess


The time Trump first met Justin Kennedy from Deutsche Bank
(Then he got the $1 billion loan later ... neat trick, um?)

What's the trick?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

To the thread premise:

think is likely that Mueller will find good reason to refer a money laundering case against trump and his company to New York. This would be the GOP's out. They don't have the will or the stomach for acting on any campaign ties to Russia, as this would likely embroil the vice president as well. But a financial crimes case against trump would spare Pence, and the GOP would retain a good partner in the white house (a better partner, really).

However, the wheels of justice move slowly, and I don't see this coming to any resolution before the 2020 election. But I do believe Trump will be indicted in the state of New York for money laundering.

 

[bripat9643]

To the thread premise:

think is likely that Mueller will find good reason to refer a money laundering case against trump and his company to New York. This would be the GOP's out. They don't have the will or the stomach for acting on any campaign ties to Russia, as this would likely embroil the vice president as well. But a financial crimes case against trump would spare Pence, and the GOP would retain a good partner in the white house (a better partner, really).

However, the wheels of justice move slowly, and I don't see this coming to any resolution before the 2020 election. But I do believe Trump will be indicted in the state of New York for money laundering.

The GOP doesn't need an "out," dumbass. The chances that Dims are going to do the perp walk is far more likely than that anyone in the Trump administration will do one. How many FBI executives have already been fired/demoted/retired/indicted?

It's hilarious the way you turds actually believe Mueller has a case of any kind.

 

[playtime]

You want us to believe that simply talking to a Russian constitutes "collusion,"

Not so. Trying to get material assistance for the election from Russian agents constitutes collusion. And we already know for a fact t that his campaign officials did this.

I'll say to you what I said to the other whiny Trumpkin: it is odd that you are throwing this little fit,given that you have whined for a year that collusion is not illegal.

Furthermore, you really should stop hyperventilating for a moment and consider that it is trump's own bizarre behavior that has made all of this get this far.

Sorry you dumbass turd, but it's not illegal for people to give you information against the opposition. If anyone got information from Russian agents, it was the Clinton campaign, and she paid for it. So where is the collusion investigation into the Hillary campaign?

Just admit that you're a lying hypocrite douchebag.

And Trump's behavior is no justification for the witch hunt. I know you assholes believe politicans keeping their promises is bizzare. It's also bizarre that any rational person would prefer a politician that has no intention of keeping her promises.

oppositional research is not illegal. nobody is saying it is. BEFORE hillary picked up fusion GPS, they were being paid by a republican. that republican gave up & hillary went from there. BUT the CRIME part comes in where donny jr, pantywaist jared,& pauly walnuts went to trump tower & meet with the roooskies under the presence they had dirt on hillary. that is the bozo nono. now, if the mango madman had any knowledge b4 or after the fact... ( & it's not looking good for him) & as i've told you many times b4...

it's called CONSPIRACY. learn it. love it. live with it because that will be among the many MANY charges that will be filed for all mentioned above & then some.

 

[sparky]

Follow the $$$ doesn't apply to globalists ,who have the means to hide it anywhere on this rock

~S~

 

[Crixus]

Special counsel Robert Mueller has been given a pretty broad directive regarding Donald Trump, and as Trump supporters whine and wail about the unfairness of this, I would suggest if our President is as innocent as he claims this should not be cause for concern. It will be Trump's financial dealings that will be the cause of his downfall. Proving collusion with Russia would be much more difficult than that of financial crimes.

A review of the public record reveals a clear and disturbing pattern: Trump owes much of his business success, and by extension his presidency, to a flow of highly suspicious money from Russia. Over the past three decades, at least 13 people with known or alleged links to Russian mobsters or oligarchs have owned, lived in, and even run criminal activities out of Trump Tower and other Trump properties. Many used his apartments and casinos to launder untold millions in dirty money.

Trump supporters: You can cry fake news all you want, but the money will bring him down.


Opinion | With Trump and Russia, it’s all about the money

NRA, Russia and Trump: How 'dark money' is poisoning American democracy

20 million dollars for one 30 day conviction. Yeah, the money will bring him down all right. Eventually.

 

[bripat9643]

You want us to believe that simply talking to a Russian constitutes "collusion,"

Not so. Trying to get material assistance for the election from Russian agents constitutes collusion. And we already know for a fact t that his campaign officials did this.

I'll say to you what I said to the other whiny Trumpkin: it is odd that you are throwing this little fit,given that you have whined for a year that collusion is not illegal.

Furthermore, you really should stop hyperventilating for a moment and consider that it is trump's own bizarre behavior that has made all of this get this far.

Sorry you dumbass turd, but it's not illegal for people to give you information against the opposition. If anyone got information from Russian agents, it was the Clinton campaign, and she paid for it. So where is the collusion investigation into the Hillary campaign?

Just admit that you're a lying hypocrite douchebag.

And Trump's behavior is no justification for the witch hunt. I know you assholes believe politicans keeping their promises is bizzare. It's also bizarre that any rational person would prefer a politician that has no intention of keeping her promises.

oppositional research is not illegal. nobody is saying it is. BEFORE hillary picked up fusion GPS, they were being paid by a republican. that republican gave up & hillary went from there. BUT the CRIME part comes in where donny jr, pantywaist jared,& pauly walnuts went to trump tower & meet with the roooskies under the presence they had dirt on hillary. that is the bozo nono. now, if the mango madman had any knowledge b4 or after the fact... ( & it's not looking good for him) & as i've told you many times b4...

it's called CONSPIRACY. learn it. love it. live with it because that will be among the many MANY charges that will be filed for all mentioned above & then some.

Wrong, dumbass. There is nothing wrong with receiving information about the other candidate, no matter who is the source. If that was illegal then Mueller would have indicted Trump a year ago. Where you start running afoul of the law is where you pay foriegners for that information, and that's what Hillary did, not Trump.

Face it, you don't know that law. You're a typical dumbass snowflake making things up.

 

[edward37]

Hows this taste Trumpettes Do as I say??
Donald Trump is continuing to hammer Harley-Davidson over the motorcycle company’s plans to relocate some production overseas to dodge European tariffs triggered by the president’s trade war. What Trump isn’t mentioning is that the president and his family own businesses abroad and that most Trump products are produced in foreign factories.


During a GOP primary debate before the presidential election, Trump was challenged on outsourcing products overseas. He defended the practice then, arguing: “We’re allowed to do it” — as is Harley-Davidson. “So I will take advantage of it,” he added. In a unit of “study” in the now-defunct Trump University, Trump wrote that outsourcing jobs is sometimes a “necessary step.” (Trump agreed to pay $25 million to settle fraud claims against his “university.”)

But the president again slammed the Wisconsin motorcycle company on a Fox News program Sunday, saying the company will take a “big hit” from consumers angry that an American company is moving some of its production abroad.

“Everybody who ever bought a Harley-Davidson voted for Trump ... and they are very unhappy about it,” Trump said. He added that the company “shouldn’t play cute.” He accused Harley-Davidson on Twitter earlier in the week: “They surrendered, they quit! The aura will be gone.”

An ad by Hillary Clinton during the presidential campaign attacked Trump for outsourcing manufacturing to 12 different countries. An investigation by The Washington Post confirmed that. Import records revealed that Trump shirts, suits, sports coats, eyeglasses, home goods — such as furniture, lighting fixtures and mirrors — and hotel amenities including shampoo, towels and laundry bags were all made abroad. Factories used are located in China, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Vietnam and South Korea, among others.

When Trump hosted his “Made in America” week at the White House last year, he was slammed for hypocrisy. “Instead of lecturing us, Trump should try setting an example,” said a statement from the Democratic National Committee.

 

[edward37]

dimocrap filth can't win at the Ballot Box, even with untold millions of illegal votes, so they're trying to take Trump down with the absolute scum of the Earth -- Lawyers.

Keep on keepin' on, dimocrap scum. You're so stupid, you can't see how stupid you really are.

You're gonna see election results that will rock your world if you keep this shit up.

Lawyers scum?? They kept your orange anus out of jail these past 40 years while helping him screw 1000's

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You want us to believe that simply talking to a Russian constitutes "collusion,"

Not so. Trying to get material assistance for the election from Russian agents constitutes collusion. And we already know for a fact t that his campaign officials did this.

I'll say to you what I said to the other whiny Trumpkin: it is odd that you are throwing this little fit,given that you have whined for a year that collusion is not illegal.

Furthermore, you really should stop hyperventilating for a moment and consider that it is trump's own bizarre behavior that has made all of this get this far.

Sorry you dumbass turd, but it's not illegal for people to give you information against the opposition. If anyone got information from Russian agents, it was the Clinton campaign, and she paid for it. So where is the collusion investigation into the Hillary campaign?

Just admit that you're a lying hypocrite douchebag.

And Trump's behavior is no justification for the witch hunt. I know you assholes believe politicans keeping their promises is bizzare. It's also bizarre that any rational person would prefer a politician that has no intention of keeping her promises.

oppositional research is not illegal. nobody is saying it is. BEFORE hillary picked up fusion GPS, they were being paid by a republican. that republican gave up & hillary went from there. BUT the CRIME part comes in where donny jr, pantywaist jared,& pauly walnuts went to trump tower & meet with the roooskies under the presence they had dirt on hillary. that is the bozo nono. now, if the mango madman had any knowledge b4 or after the fact... ( & it's not looking good for him) & as i've told you many times b4...

it's called CONSPIRACY. learn it. love it. live with it because that will be among the many MANY charges that will be filed for all mentioned above & then some.

BUT the CRIME part comes in where donny jr, pantywaist jared,& pauly walnuts went to trump tower & meet with the roooskies

Obviously. Because meeting with a Russian lawyer for 15 minutes is much more serious than getting $145 million in "donations" to your "foundation" from business partners of Russian oligarchs.

 

[playtime]

You want us to believe that simply talking to a Russian constitutes "collusion,"

Not so. Trying to get material assistance for the election from Russian agents constitutes collusion. And we already know for a fact t that his campaign officials did this.

I'll say to you what I said to the other whiny Trumpkin: it is odd that you are throwing this little fit,given that you have whined for a year that collusion is not illegal.

Furthermore, you really should stop hyperventilating for a moment and consider that it is trump's own bizarre behavior that has made all of this get this far.

Sorry you dumbass turd, but it's not illegal for people to give you information against the opposition. If anyone got information from Russian agents, it was the Clinton campaign, and she paid for it. So where is the collusion investigation into the Hillary campaign?

Just admit that you're a lying hypocrite douchebag.

And Trump's behavior is no justification for the witch hunt. I know you assholes believe politicans keeping their promises is bizzare. It's also bizarre that any rational person would prefer a politician that has no intention of keeping her promises.

oppositional research is not illegal. nobody is saying it is. BEFORE hillary picked up fusion GPS, they were being paid by a republican. that republican gave up & hillary went from there. BUT the CRIME part comes in where donny jr, pantywaist jared,& pauly walnuts went to trump tower & meet with the roooskies under the presence they had dirt on hillary. that is the bozo nono. now, if the mango madman had any knowledge b4 or after the fact... ( & it's not looking good for him) & as i've told you many times b4...

it's called CONSPIRACY. learn it. love it. live with it because that will be among the many MANY charges that will be filed for all mentioned above & then some.

Wrong, dumbass. There is nothing wrong with receiving information about the other candidate, no matter who is the source. If that was illegal then Mueller would have indicted Trump a year ago. Where you start running afoul of the law is where you pay foriegners for that information, and that's what Hillary did, not Trump.

Face it, you don't know that law. You're a typical dumbass snowflake making things up.

hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa........... you are in for such a let down, god it's gonna be great.

 

[playtime]

You want us to believe that simply talking to a Russian constitutes "collusion,"

Not so. Trying to get material assistance for the election from Russian agents constitutes collusion. And we already know for a fact t that his campaign officials did this.

I'll say to you what I said to the other whiny Trumpkin: it is odd that you are throwing this little fit,given that you have whined for a year that collusion is not illegal.

Furthermore, you really should stop hyperventilating for a moment and consider that it is trump's own bizarre behavior that has made all of this get this far.

Sorry you dumbass turd, but it's not illegal for people to give you information against the opposition. If anyone got information from Russian agents, it was the Clinton campaign, and she paid for it. So where is the collusion investigation into the Hillary campaign?

Just admit that you're a lying hypocrite douchebag.

And Trump's behavior is no justification for the witch hunt. I know you assholes believe politicans keeping their promises is bizzare. It's also bizarre that any rational person would prefer a politician that has no intention of keeping her promises.

oppositional research is not illegal. nobody is saying it is. BEFORE hillary picked up fusion GPS, they were being paid by a republican. that republican gave up & hillary went from there. BUT the CRIME part comes in where donny jr, pantywaist jared,& pauly walnuts went to trump tower & meet with the roooskies under the presence they had dirt on hillary. that is the bozo nono. now, if the mango madman had any knowledge b4 or after the fact... ( & it's not looking good for him) & as i've told you many times b4...

it's called CONSPIRACY. learn it. love it. live with it because that will be among the many MANY charges that will be filed for all mentioned above & then some.

BUT the CRIME part comes in where donny jr, pantywaist jared,& pauly walnuts went to trump tower & meet with the roooskies

Obviously. Because meeting with a Russian lawyer for 15 minutes is much more serious than getting $145 million in "donations" to your "foundation" from business partners of Russian oligarchs.

oh my my MY my my .... as if it has to be one or the other. i suspect you are referring to the clinton foundation? if anything untoward happened- the (R)s would be all over it.... just like whitewater & benghaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. whatever any investigation outcome is, then it will be settled.

receiving that info in trump tower broke FEC laws. they anticipated that by receiving goods
( hillary's emails) from a foreign entity, a HOSTILE one to boot (russia) in exchange for services ( lifting sanctions imposed ) is how donny jr et al are going to get screwed. & if daddy tribblehead orchestrated the tweet fiasco on jr's behalf.... then that also broke the law.
i e obstruction of justice. probably multiple counts too, since he dictated more than one tweet about it.

Foreign nationals - FEC.gov

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You want us to believe that simply talking to a Russian constitutes "collusion,"

Not so. Trying to get material assistance for the election from Russian agents constitutes collusion. And we already know for a fact t that his campaign officials did this.

I'll say to you what I said to the other whiny Trumpkin: it is odd that you are throwing this little fit,given that you have whined for a year that collusion is not illegal.

Furthermore, you really should stop hyperventilating for a moment and consider that it is trump's own bizarre behavior that has made all of this get this far.

Sorry you dumbass turd, but it's not illegal for people to give you information against the opposition. If anyone got information from Russian agents, it was the Clinton campaign, and she paid for it. So where is the collusion investigation into the Hillary campaign?

Just admit that you're a lying hypocrite douchebag.

And Trump's behavior is no justification for the witch hunt. I know you assholes believe politicans keeping their promises is bizzare. It's also bizarre that any rational person would prefer a politician that has no intention of keeping her promises.

oppositional research is not illegal. nobody is saying it is. BEFORE hillary picked up fusion GPS, they were being paid by a republican. that republican gave up & hillary went from there. BUT the CRIME part comes in where donny jr, pantywaist jared,& pauly walnuts went to trump tower & meet with the roooskies under the presence they had dirt on hillary. that is the bozo nono. now, if the mango madman had any knowledge b4 or after the fact... ( & it's not looking good for him) & as i've told you many times b4...

it's called CONSPIRACY. learn it. love it. live with it because that will be among the many MANY charges that will be filed for all mentioned above & then some.

BUT the CRIME part comes in where donny jr, pantywaist jared,& pauly walnuts went to trump tower & meet with the roooskies

Obviously. Because meeting with a Russian lawyer for 15 minutes is much more serious than getting $145 million in "donations" to your "foundation" from business partners of Russian oligarchs.

oh my my MY my my .... as if it has to be one or the other. i suspect you are referring to the clinton foundation? if anything untoward happened- the (R)s would be all over it.... just like whitewater & benghaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. whatever any investigation outcome is, then it will be settled.

receiving that info in trump tower broke FEC laws. they anticipated that by receiving goods
( hillary's emails) from a foreign entity, a HOSTILE one to boot (russia) in exchange for services ( lifting sanctions imposed ) is how donny jr et al are going to get screwed. & if daddy tribblehead orchestrated the tweet fiasco on jr's behalf.... then that also broke the law.
i e obstruction of justice. probably multiple counts too, since he dictated more than one tweet about it.

Foreign nationals - FEC.gov

i suspect you are referring to the clinton foundation?

Why? Just because they got $145 million from a business partner of Russians?

receiving that info in trump tower broke FEC laws.

What info did they receive? What law did they break?
What was the exchange of value?

they anticipated that by receiving goods

Like a dossier?

( hillary's emails) from a foreign entity,

They met with a foreign entity? I thought it was a lawyer? They got emails? Where?

a HOSTILE one to boot (russia)

Wait a minute, Hillary was giving reset buttons to a hostile foreign entity?
Obama was getting all flexible with a hostile foreign entity?

I think the 80s are calling....they want their foreign policy back, eh tovarish?

in exchange for services ( lifting sanctions imposed )

Which sanctions were lifted? When?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Special counsel Robert Mueller has been given a pretty broad directive regarding Donald Trump, and as Trump supporters whine and wail about the unfairness of this, I would suggest if our President is as innocent as he claims this should not be cause for concern. It will be Trump's financial dealings that will be the cause of his downfall. Proving collusion with Russia would be much more difficult than that of financial crimes.

A review of the public record reveals a clear and disturbing pattern: Trump owes much of his business success, and by extension his presidency, to a flow of highly suspicious money from Russia. Over the past three decades, at least 13 people with known or alleged links to Russian mobsters or oligarchs have owned, lived in, and even run criminal activities out of Trump Tower and other Trump properties. Many used his apartments and casinos to launder untold millions in dirty money.

Trump supporters: You can cry fake news all you want, but the money will bring him down.


Opinion | With Trump and Russia, it’s all about the money

NRA, Russia and Trump: How 'dark money' is poisoning American democracy

We got him now! ® Part 1,452,123

 

[mudwhistle]

Special counsel Robert Mueller has been given a pretty broad directive regarding Donald Trump, and as Trump supporters whine and wail about the unfairness of this, I would suggest if our President is as innocent as he claims this should not be cause for concern. It will be Trump's financial dealings that will be the cause of his downfall. Proving collusion with Russia would be much more difficult than that of financial crimes.

A review of the public record reveals a clear and disturbing pattern: Trump owes much of his business success, and by extension his presidency, to a flow of highly suspicious money from Russia. Over the past three decades, at least 13 people with known or alleged links to Russian mobsters or oligarchs have owned, lived in, and even run criminal activities out of Trump Tower and other Trump properties. Many used his apartments and casinos to launder untold millions in dirty money.

Trump supporters: You can cry fake news all you want, but the money will bring him down.


Opinion | With Trump and Russia, it’s all about the money

NRA, Russia and Trump: How 'dark money' is poisoning American democracy

Sorry, but they were supposed to investigate one thing, not go on a motherfucking fishing expedition.
This isn't justice.
This is a vendetta directed by Hillary and Obama......nothing more.