Do you support the Constitution?

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Should the government be constrained by the laws in the Constitution?

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  1. QUENTIN
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    Not do you think it is followed, or will it ever be followed, or anything like that.

    But as an ideological position, do you believe the laws outlined in the Constitution should constrain the government and politicians in what they're able to do?

    Do you think if something is explicitly unconstitutional, the government shouldn't be able to do it?

    Yes or no?
     
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    Yes. The constitution is a sound basis for government, and the ability to enact amendments keeps it that way.

    Not saying it's perfect, but sound.
     
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    Support it? I've sworn more than one oath to defend it.
     
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    Yes , I support it.
    We would not be in this mess if had been followed.
     
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    There are those who remind us that our constitution was written over two hundred years ago. They remind us to say that our constitution was written for different times. They say that the circumstances we have in our country today could not have been considered when our constitution was written. They say that we have to bend our constitution to fit the times. They want to be able to mold our constitution to fit whatever they believe our current level of rights should be. Our founders wrote the Bill of Rights to nail down the rights of the people. They knew that without the Bill of Rights, our rights would float on the political whims of the times.

    Many believe that our constitution is a government document that grants rights to the people. It is not. It is the peoples document that grants power to the government. It is, in fact, the document that created the government. The first three words of our constitution are “We the people” are they not?

    Our constitution tells the government what its structure will be. It tells the government what powers it will have and which branch will have each power. It allows (but does not require) each branch to oversee the others.

    The Bill of Rights is not there to create rights for the people. These rights were possessed by the people before the government existed. It is there to tell the government that it has not been given the authority, and in fact, has been specifically denied the authority to abridge these rights. The government simply does not have the authority to abridge constitutional rights. A simple law cannot take away rights. Our constitution forbids it.

    Can the government pass unconstitutional law? Yes it can. Do they pass unconstitutional law? Absolutely. Many unconstitutional laws have been passed. Some have fallen to the courts. Many are still on the books. The most glaring example was back in the 80‘s when there was an astronomical number of flag burning incidents. There were three or four if I remember correctly. Anyway, as the story goes, one of the people who was arrested for burning the flag pushed his case all the way to the supreme court. The court ruled the law (a state law) unconstitutional because burning the flag was a constitutionally protected form of symbolic speech.

    This ruling got both the right and left wings flapping and this bird took off. With full knowledge that a law against flag burning was unconstitutional, the government passed another law (federal law) against burning the flag. The vote in congress was virtually unanimous in favor of unconstitutional law. I think that only one senator opposed the proposed law and there was a similar response in the house. The president was waiting with pen in hand for the bill to be brought to him so that he could sign it into law. Within days the supreme court ruled it unconstitutional.

    Are these the people you trust with your rights? Do you trust the people who stand up in front of the world and swear an oath to uphold our constitution when they have no intention of doing so? The vast majority of politicians would sell our constitution down the river for a few votes. It is not theirs to sell.
     
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    should be, "does obama support the constitution ??"

    we'll just see.
     
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    No, that's explicitly not what I'm asking.

    So. Do YOU support the Constitution and believe it SHOULD be adhered to by politicians and the government?
     
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    To bad the corrupt politicians interpret the Constitution the same way as all the religious nuts interpret their bible which is to their satisfaction only!
     
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    If the answer is "no", what's the point of even having a constitution?
     
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    I definitely support MY interpretation of it.

    Sadly my interpretation isn't the general consensus of thinking about what it means.
     

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