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critical thinking skills lacking?
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Oh shut the fuck up, you don't know jack shit.
Only an ignorant person would attempt to compare libertarians to totalitarianism...
Such a comparison is literally ignorant, and now you want to talk about critical thinking skills???
I call 'em as I see 'em. Now of course reality would dictate knowing what one stands for and what labels mean should have a connection, but...self-described libertarians and conservatives today have been suffering a collective (ahhhhthere's that word!!!) nervous breakdown
Lets say their dogma is predicated on authoritarianism conservatives have an intense need to compel others to conform, they detest diversity and dissent, and as reactionaries long for an idealized American past that never really existed in the first place.Do American Conservatives and Libertarians adore dictatorships, totalitarianism?
They dont intentionally adore dictatorships, but share many similar traits, however inadvertent.
To wit:
Oh shut the fuck up, you don't know jack shit.
All Barry needs is one of those funny little totalitarian mustaches for full effect.
you mean like this:
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Like Stalin, Mao, Mussolini and Amin?
Do American Conservatives and Libertarians adore dictatorships, totalitarianism?* * * *
Do American Conservatives and Libertarians adore dictatorships, totalitarianism?* * * *
No. And it's a stupid proposition to suggest that we do.
Now STATISTS on the other hand love them some dictator.
Oh shut the fuck up, you don't know jack shit.
Only an ignorant person would attempt to compare libertarians to totalitarianism...
Such a comparison is literally ignorant, and now you want to talk about critical thinking skills???
I call 'em as I see 'em. Now of course reality would dictate knowing what one stands for and what labels mean should have a connection, but...self-described libertarians and conservatives today have been suffering a collective (ahhhh
Of course libertarians are pissed off, you progressives are destroying - ding ding ding - LIBERTY...
You know as in the root word of libertarian???
Yes libertarians are fed up with all your pussy laws and regulations and the notion the government has the right to regulate an individual..
The real authoritarians are you progressives....
You don't see me telling a person what they can and cannot do - you progressives are doing just that.. Even to the point of having government dictate what foods a person can and cannot eat..
Do American Conservatives and Libertarians adore dictatorships, totalitarianism?
Is there enough evidence out there to make a legitimate case that American Conservatives and Libertarians hate liberalism so much, they have turned their collective backs on the liberal values that were undoubtedly the foundation, of the United States of America?
let us start by taking a look at a recent thread here @ USMB:
. The incomparable Neal Boortz puts things in proper perspective...
Let's see if we have this right: | Nealz Nuze | www.boortz.com
Here it is impossible to deny the right wing lunatic @ USMB who goes by the anon-nitwit-name The Professor argues the USA should be more like North Korean, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, China, Venezuela, Cuba...
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We have people like The Professor admiring Americans like Neal Boortz who made his bones with angry America (conservative/libertarian wingnuts) writing speeches for Lester Maddox. Poor Neal, the self-described Libertarian with the education from the then-unaccredited John Marshall Law School
We had the great Conservative hero, the late Senator Jesse Helms with his unbridled support of the regimes: Zimbabwe Rhodesia, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Chile, South Africa (the apartheid gov)...
...to be continued...
message to American supporters of Israel: In 1977, Helms was the sole senator to vote against prohibiting American companies from joining the Arab League boycott of Israel,[40] although this was primarily because the bill also relaxed discrimination against communist countries.[41] In 1982, Helms even called for the U.S. to break diplomatic relations with Israel during the 1982 Lebanon War.[42] Jesse Helms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What about the Liberals and Progressives that admire Chavez and Castro?
Do American Conservatives and Libertarians adore dictatorships, totalitarianism?* * * *
No. And it's a stupid proposition to suggest that we do.
Now STATISTS on the other hand love them some dictator.
oh, the distinctions that more often than not exist on paper only
Do American Conservatives and Libertarians adore dictatorships, totalitarianism?
Lets say their dogma is predicated on authoritarianism conservatives have an intense need to compel others to conform, they detest diversity and dissent, and as reactionaries long for an idealized American past that never really existed in the first place.
They dont intentionally adore dictatorships, but share many similar traits, however inadvertent.
To wit:
Oh shut the fuck up, you don't know jack shit.
I call 'em as I see 'em. Now of course reality would dictate knowing what one stands for and what labels mean should have a connection, but...self-described libertarians and conservatives today have been suffering a collective (ahhhh
Of course libertarians are pissed off, you progressives are destroying - ding ding ding - LIBERTY...
You know as in the root word of libertarian???
Yes libertarians are fed up with all your pussy laws and regulations and the notion the government has the right to regulate an individual..
The real authoritarians are you progressives....
You don't see me telling a person what they can and cannot do - you progressives are doing just that.. Even to the point of having government dictate what foods a person can and cannot eat..
My dearest Imbecilic Idiot, please refrain from lecturing. You do it so poorly.
Progressives and populists are high on my list of next-in-line-4-cattle-cars after conservative nitwits who tend towards Randian Nitwitticy
dopey and moronic,Of course libertarians are pissed off, you progressives are destroying - ding ding ding - LIBERTY...
You know as in the root word of libertarian???
Yes libertarians are fed up with all your pussy laws and regulations and the notion the government has the right to regulate an individual..
The real authoritarians are you progressives....
You don't see me telling a person what they can and cannot do - you progressives are doing just that.. Even to the point of having government dictate what foods a person can and cannot eat..
My dearest Imbecilic Idiot, please refrain from lecturing. You do it so poorly.
Progressives and populists are high on my list of next-in-line-4-cattle-cars after conservative nitwits who tend towards Randian Nitwitticy
Oh go fuck off...
Truth is I could survive without government and you couldn't..
Ever hear of natural selection?
Polarization also has affected the two parties differently. The Republican Party has drifted much farther to the right than the Democratic Party has drifted to the left. Jacob Hacker, a professor at Yale, whose 2006 book, Off Center, documented this trend, told me, citing Poole and Rosenthals data on congressional voting records, that, since 1975, Senate Republicans moved roughly twice as far to the right as Senate Democrats moved to the left and House Republicans moved roughly six times as far to the right as House Democrats moved to the left. In other words, the story of the past few decades is asymmetric polarization.
Two well-known Washington political analysts, Thomas Mann, of the bipartisan Brookings Institution, and Norman Ornstein, of the conservative American Enterprise Institute, agree.
In a forthcoming book about Washington dysfunction, Its Even Worse Than It Looks, they write, One of our two major parties, the Republicans, has become an insurgent outlierideologically extreme, contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime, scornful of compromise, unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science, and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
The Obama Memos: How Washington Remade the President : The New Yorker
dopey and moronic,My dearest Imbecilic Idiot, please refrain from lecturing. You do it so poorly.
Progressives and populists are high on my list of next-in-line-4-cattle-cars after conservative nitwits who tend towards Randian Nitwitticy
Oh go fuck off...
Truth is I could survive without government and you couldn't..
Ever hear of natural selection?
Polarization also has affected the two parties differently. The Republican Party has drifted much farther to the right than the Democratic Party has drifted to the left. Jacob Hacker, a professor at Yale, whose 2006 book, Off Center, documented this trend, told me, citing Poole and Rosenthals data on congressional voting records, that, since 1975, Senate Republicans moved roughly twice as far to the right as Senate Democrats moved to the left and House Republicans moved roughly six times as far to the right as House Democrats moved to the left. In other words, the story of the past few decades is asymmetric polarization.
Two well-known Washington political analysts, Thomas Mann, of the bipartisan Brookings Institution, and Norman Ornstein, of the conservative American Enterprise Institute, agree.
In a forthcoming book about Washington dysfunction, Its Even Worse Than It Looks, they write, One of our two major parties, the Republicans, has become an insurgent outlierideologically extreme, contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime, scornful of compromise, unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science, and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
The Obama Memos: How Washington Remade the President : The New Yorker
dopey and moronic,Oh go fuck off...
Truth is I could survive without government and you couldn't..
Ever hear of natural selection?
Polarization also has affected the two parties differently. The Republican Party has drifted much farther to the right than the Democratic Party has drifted to the left. Jacob Hacker, a professor at Yale, whose 2006 book, “Off Center,” documented this trend, told me, citing Poole and Rosenthal’s data on congressional voting records, that, since 1975, “Senate Republicans moved roughly twice as far to the right as Senate Democrats moved to the left” and “House Republicans moved roughly six times as far to the right as House Democrats moved to the left.” In other words, the story of the past few decades is asymmetric polarization.
Two well-known Washington political analysts, Thomas Mann, of the bipartisan Brookings Institution, and Norman Ornstein, of the conservative American Enterprise Institute, agree.
In a forthcoming book about Washington dysfunction, “It’s Even Worse Than It Looks,” they write, “One of our two major parties, the Republicans, has become an insurgent outlier—ideologically extreme, contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime, scornful of compromise, unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science, and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.”
The Obama Memos: How Washington Remade the President : The New Yorker
You offer that quote as though them saying such tripe somehow makes it "right."
The fact of the matter is, they are full of shit.
The Republican Party isn't the engine of change. The Republican Party is part of the problem.
The engine of change lies in the awakening many of us are having over how badly off-course we are.
I keep reading the propaganda of the day which seeks to "define" who and what conservatives are. But it's malarkey.
Conservatives don't seek the status quo. Why would we wish to keep things the "way they are" when the way things are are so fucked up, due to incremental liberal changes, that we have ended up in a very bad place?
Conservatives, properly understood, seek to put things BACK to the way they are SUPPOSED TO BE.
Pontificators can label that effort "ideologically extreme, contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime, scornful of compromise, unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science, and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition." In fact, that's got some truth in it.
If looking to correct our course is considered ideologically extreme, then count me in. If it constitutes being "contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime," then yeah, that's me. I AM contemptuous of the notion that because this is where we've landed, we are obligated to STAY HERE. That's ridiculous. HERE is not a good place. We are in danger of crumbling. We DO in fact need to move. I AM contemptuous of the silly modern American liberalism that takes us here and seeks to move us even further away from where we should be. I DO scorn "compromise" which serves only to solidify the invalid "gains" of the left over these many recent years. You bet your ASS that I am "unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science [sic]," when those "fats" aren't real facts, the evidence has gotten deliberately distorted and the science is fiction. And no. The political opposition is not "legitimate" exactly to the extent that they rebuff the strictures of the Constitutionally imposed limits on government authority and power.
Do American Conservatives and Libertarians adore dictatorships, totalitarianism?
Is there enough evidence out there to make a legitimate case that American Conservatives and Libertarians hate liberalism so much, they have turned their collective backs on the liberal values that were undoubtedly the foundation, of the United States of America?
let us start by taking a look at a recent thread here @ USMB:
Here it is impossible to deny the right wing lunatic @ USMB who goes by the anon-nitwit-name The Professor argues the USA should be more like North Korean, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, China, Venezuela, Cuba...
---
We have people like The Professor admiring Americans like Neal Boortz who made his bones with angry America (conservative/libertarian wingnuts) writing speeches for Lester Maddox. Poor Neal, the self-described Libertarian with the education from the then-unaccredited John Marshall Law School
We had the great Conservative hero, the late Senator Jesse Helms with his unbridled support of the regimes: Zimbabwe Rhodesia, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Chile, South Africa (the apartheid gov)...
...to be continued...
What about the Liberals and Progressives that admire Chavez and Castro?
No liberal admires a dictator. Progressives, conservatives and others do and have.
What about the Liberals and Progressives that admire Chavez and Castro?
No liberal admires a dictator. Progressives, conservatives and others do and have.
I guess you get to tell people they aren't liberals now.
