JakeStarkey
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percysunshine, that would be something.
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Where I come down on it is this; I don't see how the government can force you to buy health insurance based on my reading of the Constitution. This isn't like auto liability insurance because you can opt out of driving; you can't opt out of living.
If you're sick or injured and don't have insurance, can the ambulance/emergency room opt out of providing service? I don't see how your analysis holds water. We're supposed to be making health care affordable, but the opponents seem to be giving a thumbs up to free loaders! IMO, it's the price we need to pay to live in the kind of country where that wouldn't happen
Hello and good morning.
Did I miss it? Did the Supreme Court set a date for when they are going to hand down their ruling about the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare)? I recall that it was reported they would make a ruling in June on the matter but I had not heard that the Court had set a date when they would make a ruling.
Where I come down on it is this; I don't see how the government can force you to buy health insurance based on my reading of the Constitution. This isn't like auto liability insurance because you can opt out of driving; you can't opt out of living.
For me, this is yet another reason why this nation needs to further perfect the Constitution. This sort of unpredictable ruling schedule.
It's not happening here...let me repeat it...it is NOT happening here but a ruling overturning the ACA would be seen to many if not most as a body blow to the Obama administration. Again, the Roberts court isn't doing it but a court--one whose members are appointed by and approved by politicians--could be used as a political tool. Obviously, if this ruling were happening in August or September, there would be a much larger impact than it will have if it happens in June as was reported it would be--next week I suppose.
Again, the Roberts court is set to rule next week. However, there doesn't seem to be anything preventing the Court from handing down rulings whenever they wish and this could easily be used for political purposes.
my own personal opinion is that we are forced to pay for social security insurance. we are forced to buy car insurance. we are forced to pay for wars we don't agree on. we have to abide by federal regulations passed under the commerce clause, etc. the only difference is that the people whose idea it was in the first place no longer care for it b/c it was signed off on by this president.
the court *should* uphold it... but with this court. eh...
if you want to watch the court, go to SCOTUSblog
SCOTUSblog
... we are forced to pay for wars we don't agree on.
how true ...
they voted on this the Friday after the hearings in March, and have had that much time to work it out - and with agreement could have made a ruling the first week of June -
could it be Kennedy has chosen to uphold the "Law" and Chief Justice Roberts is using his position to delay the ruling in hopes of changing Kennedy's decision ??? - stand your ground justice Kennedy, you have chosen correctly.
Hello and good morning.
Did I miss it? Did the Supreme Court set a date for when they are going to hand down their ruling about the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare)? I recall that it was reported they would make a ruling in June on the matter but I had not heard that the Court had set a date when they would make a ruling.
Where I come down on it is this; I don't see how the government can force you to buy health insurance based on my reading of the Constitution. This isn't like auto liability insurance because you can opt out of driving; you can't opt out of living.
For me, this is yet another reason why this nation needs to further perfect the Constitution. This sort of unpredictable ruling schedule.
It's not happening here...let me repeat it...it is NOT happening here but a ruling overturning the ACA would be seen to many if not most as a body blow to the Obama administration. Again, the Roberts court isn't doing it but a court--one whose members are appointed by and approved by politicians--could be used as a political tool. Obviously, if this ruling were happening in August or September, there would be a much larger impact than it will have if it happens in June as was reported it would be--next week I suppose.
Again, the Roberts court is set to rule next week. However, there doesn't seem to be anything preventing the Court from handing down rulings whenever they wish and this could easily be used for political purposes.
my own personal opinion is that we are forced to pay for social security insurance. we are forced to buy car insurance. we are forced to pay for wars we don't agree on. we have to abide by federal regulations passed under the commerce clause, etc. the only difference is that the people whose idea it was in the first place no longer care for it b/c it was signed off on by this president.
the court *should* uphold it... but with this court. eh...
if you want to watch the court, go to SCOTUSblog
SCOTUSblog
... we are forced to pay for wars we don't agree on.
how true ...
they voted on this the Friday after the hearings in March, and have had that much time to work it out - and with agreement could have made a ruling the first week of June -
could it be Kennedy has chosen to uphold the "Law" and Chief Justice Roberts is using his position to delay the ruling in hopes of changing Kennedy's decision ??? - stand your ground justice Kennedy, you have chosen correctly.
I hadn't considered such a scenario, but it's a sobering thought. My understanding is that they decided shortly after the hearing (or even before) and in the interim have merely been writing it up.
This decision is huge, in my view - if nothing else because of the notoriety, and it presents an opportunity to set some decent limits on bad precedent. Given that neither the Republicans or the Democrats seem interested in serious limits on federal power, the Court is really our last line of defense.
how true ...
they voted on this the Friday after the hearings in March, and have had that much time to work it out - and with agreement could have made a ruling the first week of June -
could it be Kennedy has chosen to uphold the "Law" and Chief Justice Roberts is using his position to delay the ruling in hopes of changing Kennedy's decision ??? - stand your ground justice Kennedy, you have chosen correctly.
I hadn't considered such a scenario, but it's a sobering thought. My understanding is that they decided shortly after the hearing (or even before) and in the interim have merely been writing it up.
This decision is huge, in my view - if nothing else because of the notoriety, and it presents an opportunity to set some decent limits on bad precedent. Given that neither the Republicans or the Democrats seem interested in serious limits on federal power, the Court is really our last line of defense.
What bad precedent is that? From Wickard v. Filburn (1942) to Gonzales v. Raich (2005), the Court has maintained a consistent view of the Commerce Clause as allowing Congress sweeping authority to indeed regulate commerce.
In fact, even if the Court strikes down all of the ACA, the ruling will have no adverse effect on Wickard or its progeny. The case is huge only from a political standpoint, as its otherwise legally isolated.
... we are forced to pay for wars we don't agree on.
how true ...
they voted on this the Friday after the hearings in March, and have had that much time to work it out - and with agreement could have made a ruling the first week of June -
could it be Kennedy has chosen to uphold the "Law" and Chief Justice Roberts is using his position to delay the ruling in hopes of changing Kennedy's decision ??? - stand your ground justice Kennedy, you have chosen correctly.
... we are forced to pay for wars we don't agree on.
how true ...
they voted on this the Friday after the hearings in March, and have had that much time to work it out - and with agreement could have made a ruling the first week of June -
could it be Kennedy has chosen to uphold the "Law" and Chief Justice Roberts is using his position to delay the ruling in hopes of changing Kennedy's decision ??? - stand your ground justice Kennedy, you have chosen correctly.
The Court only releases decisions at the end of the Session unless it is an emergency decision. They have done that through out the History of the Court. And historically the only release the most contentious ones on the last day of releases.
But you liberals make up all the lies and misinformation you want.
The last days for oral arguments were in May. Their term is from October to July. But, that doesn't mean they take the summer off. They are busy writing decisions during that time, as well.how true ...
they voted on this the Friday after the hearings in March, and have had that much time to work it out - and with agreement could have made a ruling the first week of June -
could it be Kennedy has chosen to uphold the "Law" and Chief Justice Roberts is using his position to delay the ruling in hopes of changing Kennedy's decision ??? - stand your ground justice Kennedy, you have chosen correctly.
The Court only releases decisions at the end of the Session unless it is an emergency decision. They have done that through out the History of the Court. And historically the only release the most contentious ones on the last day of releases.
But you liberals make up all the lies and misinformation you want.
So the term is ending next week?
Who makes the Court's session schedule?
... we are forced to pay for wars we don't agree on.
how true ...
they voted on this the Friday after the hearings in March, and have had that much time to work it out - and with agreement could have made a ruling the first week of June -
could it be Kennedy has chosen to uphold the "Law" and Chief Justice Roberts is using his position to delay the ruling in hopes of changing Kennedy's decision ??? - stand your ground justice Kennedy, you have chosen correctly.
The Court only releases decisions at the end of the Session unless it is an emergency decision. They have done that through out the History of the Court. And historically the only release the most contentious ones on the last day of releases.
But you liberals make up all the lies and misinformation you want.
Right. Here is a list of their recent decisions showing decisions released during term, as well. October last year to current, so far.how true ...
they voted on this the Friday after the hearings in March, and have had that much time to work it out - and with agreement could have made a ruling the first week of June -
could it be Kennedy has chosen to uphold the "Law" and Chief Justice Roberts is using his position to delay the ruling in hopes of changing Kennedy's decision ??? - stand your ground justice Kennedy, you have chosen correctly.
The Court only releases decisions at the end of the Session unless it is an emergency decision. They have done that through out the History of the Court. And historically the only release the most contentious ones on the last day of releases.
But you liberals make up all the lies and misinformation you want.
you think the Court only issues decisions at the end of the term? That's interesting because everything I've read said this one would be released in or around June... which is why I provided the link to SCOTUSblog.com
But keep on keepin on.
how true ...
they voted on this the Friday after the hearings in March, and have had that much time to work it out - and with agreement could have made a ruling the first week of June -
could it be Kennedy has chosen to uphold the "Law" and Chief Justice Roberts is using his position to delay the ruling in hopes of changing Kennedy's decision ??? - stand your ground justice Kennedy, you have chosen correctly.
The Court only releases decisions at the end of the Session unless it is an emergency decision. They have done that through out the History of the Court. And historically the only release the most contentious ones on the last day of releases.
But you liberals make up all the lies and misinformation you want.
you think the Court only issues decisions at the end of the term? That's interesting because everything I've read said this one would be released in or around June... which is why I provided the link to SCOTUSblog.com
But keep on keepin on.
It looks like according to her, the Court reaches decisions during term and after term. And, the evidence of opinion release dates indicates the same.The Court only releases decisions at the end of the Session unless it is an emergency decision. They have done that through out the History of the Court. And historically the only release the most contentious ones on the last day of releases.
But you liberals make up all the lies and misinformation you want.
you think the Court only issues decisions at the end of the term? That's interesting because everything I've read said this one would be released in or around June... which is why I provided the link to SCOTUSblog.com
But keep on keepin on.
Sure thing wing nut. According to YOU and the person you are supporting in this thread the Court politically decided when to release this decision and it has no precedent. You sure that is what you want to claim?
The Court only releases decisions at the end of the Session unless it is an emergency decision. They have done that through out the History of the Court. And historically the only release the most contentious ones on the last day of releases.
But you liberals make up all the lies and misinformation you want.
you think the Court only issues decisions at the end of the term? That's interesting because everything I've read said this one would be released in or around June... which is why I provided the link to SCOTUSblog.com
But keep on keepin on.
Sure thing wing nut. According to YOU and the person you are supporting in this thread the Court politically decided when to release this decision and it has no precedent. You sure that is what you want to claim?