He wants them to propose impeachment. The Senate would never impeach him and it would help the 2024 campaign. Poor Old man Georgie does not understand political theater.
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Did Barr ask the SNDY to quit the of trump's campaign finance
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He wants them to propose impeachment. The Senate would never impeach him and it would help the 2024 campaign. Poor Old man Georgie does not understand political theater.
after all they can walk and chew gum at the same time= isn't it obvious.Well the Democrats will get to the bottom of it. Leave it to the Dems to do it all, after all they can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Leave it to the Dems to do it all, after all they can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Got any proof of that?
Your link:indictment? What happened?
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Cummings has asked for SNDY to provide by Aug. 2 “all evidence collected about the role of any other individual in connection with the campaign finance charges against Cohen, including any evidence relating to the President, and copies of all immunity deals granted, or informal immunity agreement letters or non-prosecution agreements entered into, in this investigation.” The committee is also asking whether Barr or any other senior Justice Department officials weighed in on the case.
Dems ask whether DOJ memo prevented prosecuting Trump for hush payments
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So much hush hush about it. Not to mention tramp lied about it, but what is new, he always lies, he has made lying normal.
"Documents made public Thursday showed contacts between Cohen and Trump surrounding the hush money payments and were part of prosecutors’ evidence that Trump directed Cohen to make the payoffs."
Democrats are promising a vote on articles of impeachment by the end of 2019 according to one account I heard today.
How will Trump respond?
He won't , first he will try suing the House Oversight Committee like he sued the House and Ways Committee and went to a judge he put in office.Trump is most at home in a courtroom:He won't , first he will try suing the House Oversight Committee like he sued the House and Ways Committee and went to a judge he put in office.
Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia
"An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, United States president Donald Trumpand his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate..."
"Trump has, however, been involved in far more litigation than fellow real-estate magnates; the USA Today analysis in 2016 found that Trump had been involved in legal disputes more than Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., Donald Bren, Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Silversteincombined.[1]"
I think Dems would find success more quickly by going after his grifter kids in New York state courts.
Next will be his kids, got to get the Father of the mafia group first.Hopefully, the entire crime family will be convicted on charges that are not subject to Executive pardon powers?Next will be his kids, got to get the Father of the mafia group first.
Trump Foundation Will Dissolve, Accused of ‘Shocking Pattern of Illegality’
NYT is Fake News. Meaning they are biased and print editorial vs actual non partisan journalism.
Hutch Starskey
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What lie?indictment? What happened?
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Cummings has asked for SNDY to provide by Aug. 2 “all evidence collected about the role of any other individual in connection with the campaign finance charges against Cohen, including any evidence relating to the President, and copies of all immunity deals granted, or informal immunity agreement letters or non-prosecution agreements entered into, in this investigation.” The committee is also asking whether Barr or any other senior Justice Department officials weighed in on the case.
Dems ask whether DOJ memo prevented prosecuting Trump for hush payments
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So much hush hush about it. Not to mention tramp lied about it, but what is new, he always lies, he has made lying normal.
Trump said he gave money.
You are psychotic.
Which of course makes him a co-conspirator.
Hutch Starskey
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Cohen took a fake charge because he thought the fbi would reduce his sentence maybe it did lolCohen is sitting in prison because he lied for tramp and was involved in a campaign finance scheme, and tramp is not,
it comes down to IS TRAMP ABOVE THE LAW??
There's no such thing as a "fake charge", dope.
dudmuck
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ok, but in this caseafter all they can walk and chew gum at the same time= isn't it obvious.Got any proof of that?
Your link:
"Documents made public Thursday showed contacts between Cohen and Trump surrounding the hush money payments and were part of prosecutors’ evidence that Trump directed Cohen to make the payoffs."
Democrats are promising a vote on articles of impeachment by the end of 2019 according to one account I heard today.
How will Trump respond?
He won't , first he will try suing the House Oversight Committee like he sued the House and Ways Committee and went to a judge he put in office.Trump is most at home in a courtroom:He won't , first he will try suing the House Oversight Committee like he sued the House and Ways Committee and went to a judge he put in office.
Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia
"An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, United States president Donald Trumpand his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate..."
"Trump has, however, been involved in far more litigation than fellow real-estate magnates; the USA Today analysis in 2016 found that Trump had been involved in legal disputes more than Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., Donald Bren, Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Silversteincombined.[1]"
I think Dems would find success more quickly by going after his grifter kids in New York state courts.
Next will be his kids, got to get the Father of the mafia group first.Hopefully, the entire crime family will be convicted on charges that are not subject to Executive pardon powers?Next will be his kids, got to get the Father of the mafia group first.
Trump Foundation Will Dissolve, Accused of ‘Shocking Pattern of Illegality’
NYT is Fake News. Meaning they are biased and print editorial vs actual non partisan journalism.
NPR reports same thing.
WSJ reports same story.
the guardian also reports on this.
In review, the NYT utilizes emotionally loaded language in their headlines such as “Trump Again Falsely Blames Democrats for His Separation Tactic” and “A Financier’s Profit-Minded Mission to Open a Channel Between Kushner and North Korea”, however, they use credible sources such as law.cornell.edu, Financial Times, and the Washington Post. Story selection is typically balanced, however wording tends to lean left in most cases. A factual search shows the New York Times has made false claims in reporting, but always makes corrections to those stories as soon as new information is available.
ok, but in this caseafter all they can walk and chew gum at the same time= isn't it obvious.
He won't , first he will try suing the House Oversight Committee like he sued the House and Ways Committee and went to a judge he put in office.Trump is most at home in a courtroom:He won't , first he will try suing the House Oversight Committee like he sued the House and Ways Committee and went to a judge he put in office.
Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia
"An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, United States president Donald Trumpand his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate..."
"Trump has, however, been involved in far more litigation than fellow real-estate magnates; the USA Today analysis in 2016 found that Trump had been involved in legal disputes more than Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., Donald Bren, Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Silversteincombined.[1]"
I think Dems would find success more quickly by going after his grifter kids in New York state courts.
Next will be his kids, got to get the Father of the mafia group first.Hopefully, the entire crime family will be convicted on charges that are not subject to Executive pardon powers?Next will be his kids, got to get the Father of the mafia group first.
Trump Foundation Will Dissolve, Accused of ‘Shocking Pattern of Illegality’
NYT is Fake News. Meaning they are biased and print editorial vs actual non partisan journalism.
NPR reports same thing.
WSJ reports same story.
the guardian also reports on this.
In review, the NYT utilizes emotionally loaded language in their headlines such as “Trump Again Falsely Blames Democrats for His Separation Tactic” and “A Financier’s Profit-Minded Mission to Open a Channel Between Kushner and North Korea”, however, they use credible sources such as law.cornell.edu, Financial Times, and the Washington Post. Story selection is typically balanced, however wording tends to lean left in most cases. A factual search shows the New York Times has made false claims in reporting, but always makes corrections to those stories as soon as new information is available.
Didn’t your parents teach you not to believe everything you hear and read? NYT is a biased rag.
dudmuck
Diamond Member
But NYT does issue corrections when they learn of mistakes.ok, but in this case
Trump is most at home in a courtroom:
Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia
"An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, United States president Donald Trumpand his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate..."
"Trump has, however, been involved in far more litigation than fellow real-estate magnates; the USA Today analysis in 2016 found that Trump had been involved in legal disputes more than Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., Donald Bren, Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Silversteincombined.[1]"
I think Dems would find success more quickly by going after his grifter kids in New York state courts.
Next will be his kids, got to get the Father of the mafia group first.Hopefully, the entire crime family will be convicted on charges that are not subject to Executive pardon powers?Next will be his kids, got to get the Father of the mafia group first.
Trump Foundation Will Dissolve, Accused of ‘Shocking Pattern of Illegality’
NYT is Fake News. Meaning they are biased and print editorial vs actual non partisan journalism.
NPR reports same thing.
WSJ reports same story.
the guardian also reports on this.
In review, the NYT utilizes emotionally loaded language in their headlines such as “Trump Again Falsely Blames Democrats for His Separation Tactic” and “A Financier’s Profit-Minded Mission to Open a Channel Between Kushner and North Korea”, however, they use credible sources such as law.cornell.edu, Financial Times, and the Washington Post. Story selection is typically balanced, however wording tends to lean left in most cases. A factual search shows the New York Times has made false claims in reporting, but always makes corrections to those stories as soon as new information is available.
Didn’t your parents teach you not to believe everything you hear and read? NYT is a biased rag.
I had listed 3 other sources of same story, for those who dont trust NYT.
Does Trump foundation actually still exist?
Jitss617
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Well just wait until a judge sees that charge.. of wait it will be gone by time trump is out of office lol you are a joke hahaCohen took a fake charge because he thought the fbi would reduce his sentence maybe it did lolCohen is sitting in prison because he lied for tramp and was involved in a campaign finance scheme, and tramp is not,
it comes down to IS TRAMP ABOVE THE LAW??
There's no such thing as a "fake charge", dope.
But NYT does issue corrections when they learn of mistakes.ok, but in this case
Next will be his kids, got to get the Father of the mafia group first.Hopefully, the entire crime family will be convicted on charges that are not subject to Executive pardon powers?Next will be his kids, got to get the Father of the mafia group first.
Trump Foundation Will Dissolve, Accused of ‘Shocking Pattern of Illegality’
NYT is Fake News. Meaning they are biased and print editorial vs actual non partisan journalism.
NPR reports same thing.
WSJ reports same story.
the guardian also reports on this.
In review, the NYT utilizes emotionally loaded language in their headlines such as “Trump Again Falsely Blames Democrats for His Separation Tactic” and “A Financier’s Profit-Minded Mission to Open a Channel Between Kushner and North Korea”, however, they use credible sources such as law.cornell.edu, Financial Times, and the Washington Post. Story selection is typically balanced, however wording tends to lean left in most cases. A factual search shows the New York Times has made false claims in reporting, but always makes corrections to those stories as soon as new information is available.
Didn’t your parents teach you not to believe everything you hear and read? NYT is a biased rag.
I had listed 3 other sources of same story, for those who dont trust NYT.
Does Trump foundation actually still exist?
WSJ just says it will dissolve.
The Original Tree
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Does Penelope take her daily orders from China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, or Socialist Shit holes elsewhere?
Your link:indictment? What happened?
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Cummings has asked for SNDY to provide by Aug. 2 “all evidence collected about the role of any other individual in connection with the campaign finance charges against Cohen, including any evidence relating to the President, and copies of all immunity deals granted, or informal immunity agreement letters or non-prosecution agreements entered into, in this investigation.” The committee is also asking whether Barr or any other senior Justice Department officials weighed in on the case.
Dems ask whether DOJ memo prevented prosecuting Trump for hush payments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
So much hush hush about it. Not to mention tramp lied about it, but what is new, he always lies, he has made lying normal.
"Documents made public Thursday showed contacts between Cohen and Trump surrounding the hush money payments and were part of prosecutors’ evidence that Trump directed Cohen to make the payoffs."
Democrats are promising a vote on articles of impeachment by the end of 2019 according to one account I heard today.
How will Trump respond?
He wants them to propose impeachment. The Senate would never impeach him and it would help the 2024 campaign. Poor Old man Georgie does not understand political theater.
The current Senate would be unlikely to vote for a conviction, but that won't undo the damage from months of televised impeachment hearings in the House. How many Americans supported Nixon's impeachment in February 1974?He wants them to propose impeachment. The Senate would never impeach him and it would help the 2024 campaign. Poor Old man Georgie does not understand political theater.
Impeachment process against Richard Nixon - Wikipedia
Your link:indictment? What happened?
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Cummings has asked for SNDY to provide by Aug. 2 “all evidence collected about the role of any other individual in connection with the campaign finance charges against Cohen, including any evidence relating to the President, and copies of all immunity deals granted, or informal immunity agreement letters or non-prosecution agreements entered into, in this investigation.” The committee is also asking whether Barr or any other senior Justice Department officials weighed in on the case.
Dems ask whether DOJ memo prevented prosecuting Trump for hush payments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
So much hush hush about it. Not to mention tramp lied about it, but what is new, he always lies, he has made lying normal.
"Documents made public Thursday showed contacts between Cohen and Trump surrounding the hush money payments and were part of prosecutors’ evidence that Trump directed Cohen to make the payoffs."
Democrats are promising a vote on articles of impeachment by the end of 2019 according to one account I heard today.
How will Trump respond?
He wants them to propose impeachment. The Senate would never impeach him and it would help the 2024 campaign. Poor Old man Georgie does not understand political theater.The current Senate would be unlikely to vote for a conviction, but that won't undo the damage from months of televised impeachment hearings in the House. How many Americans supported Nixon's impeachment in February 1974?He wants them to propose impeachment. The Senate would never impeach him and it would help the 2024 campaign. Poor Old man Georgie does not understand political theater.
Impeachment process against Richard Nixon - Wikipedia
I was not alive then so I cannot answer that question but 2019 is a different world from 1974. Trump is untouchable at this point.
Indeependent
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Uh...no.What lie?indictment? What happened?
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Cummings has asked for SNDY to provide by Aug. 2 “all evidence collected about the role of any other individual in connection with the campaign finance charges against Cohen, including any evidence relating to the President, and copies of all immunity deals granted, or informal immunity agreement letters or non-prosecution agreements entered into, in this investigation.” The committee is also asking whether Barr or any other senior Justice Department officials weighed in on the case.
Dems ask whether DOJ memo prevented prosecuting Trump for hush payments
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So much hush hush about it. Not to mention tramp lied about it, but what is new, he always lies, he has made lying normal.
Trump said he gave money.
You are psychotic.
Which of course makes him a co-conspirator.
Marion Morrison
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Did Barr ask the SNDY to quit the of trump's campaign finance
Can anyone tell me what this OP title means?
"We've really really really got him now!"
Penelope
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Did Barr ask the SNDY to quit the of trump's campaign finance
Can anyone tell me what this OP title means?
We want to know if Barr was involved and why did the SNDY just quit the indictment, because Barr thinks a president can be indicted.
Barr's Statement to Senate: A Sitting President is Not Immune from Prosecutor Declaration of Indictable Offense
Attorney General William Barr’s prepared statement to the Senate Judiciary Committee appears to mark out a framework that basically says a sitting President is not immune from federal prosecutors making a determination that the President committed an indictable offense.
Whether or not Barr articulated this legal framework to justify his decision in the Mueller investigation, it has two significant implications. First, it would mean that Special Counsel Robert Mueller may now be able to say on the record whether he believes President Donald Trump committed the crime of obstruction. Mueller should have the opportunity to do so in congressional testimony soon. Second, it would mean that the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York may make that formal determination as well if federal prosecutors conclude Trump engaged in a criminal conspiracy to make hush money payments in violation of federal campaign finance laws or committed tax and other financial crimes.
Barr’s Clarification on Indictability of a Sitting President
In a nutshell, Barr’s clarification of the Justice Department’s position appears to work in the following way. Before a prosecutor decides to submit a possible indictment to a grand jury, she must take a prior step: decide for herself whether the case involves a prosecutable crime. The Office of Legal Counsel opinions close off the option of prosecution and indictment of a sitting President, but not this prior step. Barr appears to be saying in his prepared remarks that a federal prosecutor (here a special counsel) can and should take that prior step. Decide yes or no on the question whether the President committed a crime.
Here are some of the key passages in Barr’s statement:
“The role of the federal prosecutor and the purpose of a criminal investigation are well-defined. Federal prosecutors work with grand juries to collect evidence to determine whether a crime has been committed. Once a prosecutor has exhausted his investigation into the facts of a case, he or she faces a binary choice: either to commence or to decline prosecution. To commence prosecution, the prosecutor must apply the principles of federal prosecution and conclude both that the conduct at issue constitutes a federal offense and that the admissible evidence would probably be sufficient to obtain and sustain a guilty verdict by an unbiased trier of fact. These principles govern the conduct of all prosecutions by the Department and are codified in the Justice Manual.
The appointment of a Special Counsel and the investigation of the conduct of the President of the United States do not change these rules.”
“[A]t the end of the day, the federal prosecutor must decide yes or no.”
The statement is consistent with Barr’s testimony before Congress in April. Barr stated in response to a question from Rep. Charlie Crist (D-Fl), “It was important for people to know the bottom line conclusions of the report,” and “from a prosecutor’s standpoint the bottom line is binary, which is charges or no charges.” The one oddity here is that Barr also refers to bringing a charge, or commencing a prosecution, which appears foreclosed by the Office of Legal Counsel opinions. A more radical reading of Barr’s statement would be that it erases the line drawn by the Office of Legal Counsel.
Mueller’s Opening
In his report, Mueller took the view that he did not have authority under the Justice Department’s standing legal opinions to make a “federal criminal accusation against a sitting President.” Mueller essentially concluded that he only had a one way ratchet: He could make a formal assessment that the President did not commit a crime (see Volume 1 of the Report on Russian interference) but he could not make a formal accusation that a sitting President did commit a crime (Volume 2 on obstruction). Barr’s statement to the Senate may reset that framework. Indeed, Barr’s clarification of the rules appears to state that Mueller has a duty to make the call
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If he had chosen to indict, barr would of probably said he could not of,
since he followed the OLC last writing , he didn't think he could indict a sitting Potus, and Barr said he made an err and could be indicted,
So what happened to the indictment, did Barr make it disappear?
Fort Fun Indiana
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They said they wrapped up the investigation due to roadblocks...specifically implied, not being able to indict a sitting president. So, they wait until he is out of office, and his puppet AG goes with him.indictment? What happened?
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Cummings has asked for SNDY to provide by Aug. 2 “all evidence collected about the role of any other individual in connection with the campaign finance charges against Cohen, including any evidence relating to the President, and copies of all immunity deals granted, or informal immunity agreement letters or non-prosecution agreements entered into, in this investigation.” The committee is also asking whether Barr or any other senior Justice Department officials weighed in on the case.
Dems ask whether DOJ memo prevented prosecuting Trump for hush payments
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So much hush hush about it. Not to mention tramp lied about it, but what is new, he always lies, he has made lying normal.
miketx
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Why don't you make the op TOPIC AT LEAST UNDERSTANDABLE?Did Barr ask the SNDY to quit the of trump's campaign finance
Can anyone tell me what this OP title means?
We want to know if Barr was involved and why did the SNDY just quit the indictment, because Barr thinks a president can be indicted.
Barr's Statement to Senate: A Sitting President is Not Immune from Prosecutor Declaration of Indictable Offense
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indictment? What happened?
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Cummings has asked for SNDY to provide by Aug. 2 “all evidence collected about the role of any other individual in connection with the campaign finance charges against Cohen, including any evidence relating to the President, and copies of all immunity deals granted, or informal immunity agreement letters or non-prosecution agreements entered into, in this investigation.” The committee is also asking whether Barr or any other senior Justice Department officials weighed in on the case.
Dems ask whether DOJ memo prevented prosecuting Trump for hush payments
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So much hush hush about it. Not to mention tramp lied about it, but what is new, he always lies, he has made lying normal.
Another day, and another Pinheadlope thread that lowers the bar of stupidity.
You do realize we've lowered the bar to the point where we have punched through the core of the earth and set the bar into orbit above China. The Chinese are working to retrieve it.
Penelope
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Why don't you make the op TOPIC AT LEAST UNDERSTANDABLE?Did Barr ask the SNDY to quit the of trump's campaign finance
Can anyone tell me what this OP title means?
We want to know if Barr was involved and why did the SNDY just quit the indictment, because Barr thinks a president can be indicted.
Barr's Statement to Senate: A Sitting President is Not Immune from Prosecutor Declaration of Indictable Offense
I did, but ignore the of, I was too late to delete it.
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