Democrat Policy Has Never Changed

[PoliticalChic]

1. For most of a century Democrat foreign policy vis-a-vis Russia, the Soviet Union, has been to embrace, make excuses for, and shield the Kremlin. Of course, the favor has been returned....as in the fake dossier that the Kremlin provided to Hillary and Democrats.


2. Then:
There can be no argument about FDR's pro-dictatorship proclivities. He raced to embrace Stalin's Bolsheviks when no previous President nor Sec'y of State would deign to do so.
"Four Presidents and their six Secretaries of State for over a decade and a half held to this resolve," i.e., refusal to recognize the Soviet government. That was written by Herbert Hoover, one of those four Presidents. He wrote it in his "Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath"by George H. Nash, published posthumously, obviously, in 2011, pg 24-29.

Roosevelt: "I would rather lose New Zealand, Australia or anything else than have the Russian front collapse."
Robert Dallek, "Franklin D. Roosevelt and American Foreign Policy, 1932-1945," p. 338.
Yup!
'Russia Uber Alles'

What nation did Roosevelt represent, again?​

3. Now:

"Biden energy policy enriched Russia, emboldened Putin, enabled invasion of Ukraine, critics claim​

"When President Joe Biden first took office, he revoked permission for construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline, banned new leases for oil and gas production on federal land, and planned on restricting methane waste emissions from natural gas drilling on public lands. While the U.S. pipeline construction has stopped, a Louisiana federal judge's ruling has delayed the Biden administration's plan to restrict natural gas drilling.

Largely as a result of such sharp restrictions on U.S. energy production, gas prices at the pump have jumped by $1 a gallon from a year ago, and oil prices have skyrocketed to $90 a barrel — the highest levels since the Obama administration.

Last year, Biden also lifted bipartisan congressional sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which was to deliver Russian natural gas to Germany. Following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Biden announced that he would reinstitute the sanctions, an announcement that came a day after Germany halted certification of the pipeline.

The only option for Biden to "affect Russian behavior — is to kick them out of the international banking system, and he wouldn't do it,"

Biden energy policy enriched Russia, emboldened Putin, enabled invasion of Ukraine, critics claim

"The Biden Administration is nickel and diming our way forward when we should be putting punitive sanctions, in the immediate moment, on the primary source of revenue for Russia which is their energy and oil exports," former VP Mike Pence tweeted.

justthenews.com

If it is not the geography that the Democrats appear to be enamoured by, it can only be ideology.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Gen. Patton was right. After Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we should have gone after Stalingrad and Moscow next.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gen. Patton was right. After Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we should have gone after Stalingrad and Moscow next.

Instead, at Stalin's behest, Patton was sidelined and then assassinated.

 

[BothWings]

Gen. Patton was right. After Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we should have gone after Stalingrad and Moscow next.

If that had happened we might be writing in German right now..

 

[GWV5903]

If that had happened we might be writing in German right now..

Care to elaborate?

 

[PoliticalChic]

If that had happened we might be writing in German right now..

No, Germany would not have conquered the USSR.

Hitler knew that....and so must have Roosevelt.

Here are the facts:
.. when Operation Barbarossa started on June 22, 1941, the available (German) supplies of fuel, tires, spare parts etc., were only good enough for about two months.....

Stalin, in fact, had been supplying resources to Hitler.

The Wehrmacht continued to advance, albeit very slowly, and by mid-November some units found themselves at only 30 kilometers from the capital. But the troops were now totally exhausted, and running out of supplies. Their commanders knew that it was simply impossible to take Moscow.
Hitler s Failed Blitzkrieg against the Soviet Union. The Battle of Moscow and Stalingrad Turning Point of World War II Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
72 Years Ago, December 1941: Turning Point of World War II
'The Victory of the Red Army in front of Moscow was a Major Break'…
by Jacques Pauwels



By attacking in June, Hitler had planned to avoid Russia's three greatest generals....December, January, and February.
He didn't.


So....once one recognizes that Stalin was going to be the winner.....
....why did FDR send him supplies that the Allies could have used?

The schools hide the truth to shield FDR from richly deserved contumely.

Same reason so many universities eschew teaching the French Revolution....students might recognize that it gave birth to every totalitarian revolution in modern times.



"....realistically middle sized Germany could not defeat the much larger Ussr in the long term. Germany would have eventually surrendered to the western allies to prevent total occupation by the USSR ..."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence (comment)

 

[BothWings]

Point being (my prior post), if we had attacked Russia we may have lost to Germany. We would have been put in the very situation that led to Germany's defeat. Unless you meant AFTER D-Day. Even after that we would have had to hold Germany down while also fighting Russia and the Japanese.

That could have put a whole new twist on things.

 

[BWK]

1. For most of a century Democrat foreign policy vis-a-vis Russia, the Soviet Union, has been to embrace, make excuses for, and shield the Kremlin. Of course, the favor has been returned....as in the fake dossier that the Kremlin provided to Hillary and Democrats.


2. Then:
There can be no argument about FDR's pro-dictatorship proclivities. He raced to embrace Stalin's Bolsheviks when no previous President nor Sec'y of State would deign to do so.
"Four Presidents and their six Secretaries of State for over a decade and a half held to this resolve," i.e., refusal to recognize the Soviet government. That was written by Herbert Hoover, one of those four Presidents. He wrote it in his "Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath"by George H. Nash, published posthumously, obviously, in 2011, pg 24-29.

Roosevelt: "I would rather lose New Zealand, Australia or anything else than have the Russian front collapse."​

Robert Dallek, "Franklin D. Roosevelt and American Foreign Policy, 1932-1945," p. 338.​

Yup!​

'Russia Uber Alles'​

​

What nation did Roosevelt represent, again?​

3. Now:

"Biden energy policy enriched Russia, emboldened Putin, enabled invasion of Ukraine, critics claim​

"When President Joe Biden first took office, he revoked permission for construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline, banned new leases for oil and gas production on federal land, and planned on restricting methane waste emissions from natural gas drilling on public lands. While the U.S. pipeline construction has stopped, a Louisiana federal judge's ruling has delayed the Biden administration's plan to restrict natural gas drilling.

Largely as a result of such sharp restrictions on U.S. energy production, gas prices at the pump have jumped by $1 a gallon from a year ago, and oil prices have skyrocketed to $90 a barrel — the highest levels since the Obama administration.

Last year, Biden also lifted bipartisan congressional sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which was to deliver Russian natural gas to Germany. Following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Biden announced that he would reinstitute the sanctions, an announcement that came a day after Germany halted certification of the pipeline.

The only option for Biden to "affect Russian behavior — is to kick them out of the international banking system, and he wouldn't do it,"

Biden energy policy enriched Russia, emboldened Putin, enabled invasion of Ukraine, critics claim

"The Biden Administration is nickel and diming our way forward when we should be putting punitive sanctions, in the immediate moment, on the primary source of revenue for Russia which is their energy and oil exports," former VP Mike Pence tweeted.

justthenews.com

If it is not the geography that the Democrats appear to be enamoured by, it can only be ideology.

1. For most of a century Democrat foreign policy vis-a-vis Russia, the Soviet Union, has been to embrace, make excuses for, and shield the Kremlin. Of course, the favor has been returned....as in the fake dossier that the Kremlin provided to Hillary and Democrats. After reading this lie, no need in reading the rest. You're a straight up liar.

Critics of the Russia probe -- conservative pundits, Republican lawmakers and Trump himself -- took a victory lap after the inspector general blasted the Page FISA applications.
That's because the inspector general's report confirmed what many of them had argued all along, including in a highly disputed memo from GOP Rep. Devin Nunes: That there were systemic problems with the FBI surveillance of someone tied to the Trump, and the Steele dossier was improperly used to influence part of the Russia probe.
But the report refuted the more outlandish conspiracy theories that Trump, Nunes and other Republicans pushed about the Russia probe. The report said the FISA process, while flawed, wasn't intentionally abused and wasn't politically biased. And the report debunked Trump's lie that the FBI planted spies in his campaign.
The latest Durham indictments also injected new life into Russia probe skeptics.
After wall-to-wall coverage of the Steele dossier, public opinion was quickly locked in on the question of collusion. Many Democrats clung to hope that the dossier was true. Most Republicans denounced it as a deep state hoax. Post-Mueller polling found that about half of Americans believed Trump was guilty of collusion.
Mueller and a bipartisan Senate inquiry concluded that Trump's team welcomed Russian help, and tried to coordinate on a few fronts, but it didn't come to fruition.
But so much suspicion was fueled by Trump's massive cover-up about Russia.
Trump and his team systematically lied about almost every aspect of the Russia probe. (At the start, they falsely denied any contacts with Russians.) After so many of their denials were disproved, they repeatedly shifted their story. Trump repeatedly undermined and obstructed Mueller's investigation.
All the while, Trump heaped praise on Putin. He infamously took Putin's side at the 2018 Helsinki summit by agreeing with Putin's lie that Russia didn't try to help Trump win in 2016, leading many to wonder if Trump was compromised after all. If the Dossier was in fact fake, there would have never been a need for Trump to cover up the Russia investigation.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Point being (my prior post), if we had attacked Russia we may have lost to Germany. We would have been put in the very situation that led to Germany's defeat. Unless you meant AFTER D-Day. Even after that we would have had to hold Germany down while also fighting Russia and the Japanese.

That could have put a whole new twist on things.

Not a chance.

"Between June 22, 1941, and January 31, 1942, the Germans had lost 6,000 airplanes and more than 3,200 tanks and similar vehicles; and no less than 918,000 men had been killed, wounded, or gone missing in action, amounting to 28.7 percent of the average strength of the army, namely, 3,2 million men.[33]

(In the Soviet Union, Germany would lose no less than 10 million of its total 13.5 million men killed, wounded, or taken prisoner during the entire war; and the Red Army would end up claiming credit for 90 per cent of all Germans killed in the Second World War.)
Clive Ponting, 'Armageddon: The Second World War,' p. 130; Stephen E. Ambrose 'Americans at War,' p. 72. ”


This should have been our policy:
Hanson Baldwin, military critic of the New York Times, declares in his book, "Great Mistakes of the War:" 'There is no doubt whatsoever that it would have been to the interest of Britain, the United States, and the world to have allowed and indeed to have encouraged-the world's two great dictatorships to fight each other to a frazzle.'
Baldwin writes that the United States put itself "in the role-at times a disgraceful role-of fearful suppliant and propitiating ally, anxious at nearly any cost to keep Russia fighting. In retrospect, how stupid!"

 

[PoliticalChic]

When the (anticipated) event that Hitler would attack Stalin's Russia, as they did June 21st, 1941, America should have done nothing...no more than relaxing restrictions on exports to the Russians...but at the same time securing a quid pro quo for further assistance! Lend-Lease should not have been the automatic and unlimited buffet that it turned into!

"Finally, should the Soviet regime fall,...we should refuse to recognize a Communist government-in-exile, leaving the path clear for establishment for a non-Communist government in Russia after the war." These were the words of Loy Henderson, Soviet and Eastern European affairs expert and Foreign Service officer, as quoted by Martin Weil in "A pretty good club: The founding fathers of the U.S. Foreign Service," p. 106.

 

[22lcidw]

When the (anticipated) event that Hitler would attack Stalin's Russia, as they did June 21st, 1941, America should have done nothing...no more than relaxing restrictions on exports to the Russians...but at the same time securing a quid pro quo for further assistance! Lend-Lease should not have been the automatic and unlimited buffet that it turned into!

"Finally, should the Soviet regime fall,...we should refuse to recognize a Communist government-in-exile, leaving the path clear for establishment for a non-Communist government in Russia after the war." These were the words of Loy Henderson, Soviet and Eastern European affairs expert and Foreign Service officer, as quoted by Martin Weil in "A pretty good club: The founding fathers of the U.S. Foreign Service," p. 106.

There is a route to what you typed. For in reality, once D-Day happened the Euro war was over in a year.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. For most of a century Democrat foreign policy vis-a-vis Russia, the Soviet Union, has been to embrace, make excuses for, and shield the Kremlin. Of course, the favor has been returned....as in the fake dossier that the Kremlin provided to Hillary and Democrats. After reading this lie, no need in reading the rest. You're a straight up liar.

Critics of the Russia probe -- conservative pundits, Republican lawmakers and Trump himself -- took a victory lap after the inspector general blasted the Page FISA applications.
That's because the inspector general's report confirmed what many of them had argued all along, including in a highly disputed memo from GOP Rep. Devin Nunes: That there were systemic problems with the FBI surveillance of someone tied to the Trump, and the Steele dossier was improperly used to influence part of the Russia probe.
But the report refuted the more outlandish conspiracy theories that Trump, Nunes and other Republicans pushed about the Russia probe. The report said the FISA process, while flawed, wasn't intentionally abused and wasn't politically biased. And the report debunked Trump's lie that the FBI planted spies in his campaign.
The latest Durham indictments also injected new life into Russia probe skeptics.
After wall-to-wall coverage of the Steele dossier, public opinion was quickly locked in on the question of collusion. Many Democrats clung to hope that the dossier was true. Most Republicans denounced it as a deep state hoax. Post-Mueller polling found that about half of Americans believed Trump was guilty of collusion.
Mueller and a bipartisan Senate inquiry concluded that Trump's team welcomed Russian help, and tried to coordinate on a few fronts, but it didn't come to fruition.
But so much suspicion was fueled by Trump's massive cover-up about Russia.
Trump and his team systematically lied about almost every aspect of the Russia probe. (At the start, they falsely denied any contacts with Russians.) After so many of their denials were disproved, they repeatedly shifted their story. Trump repeatedly undermined and obstructed Mueller's investigation.
All the while, Trump heaped praise on Putin. He infamously took Putin's side at the 2018 Helsinki summit by agreeing with Putin's lie that Russia didn't try to help Trump win in 2016, leading many to wonder if Trump was compromised after all. If the Dossier was in fact fake, there would have never been a need for Trump to cover up the Russia investigation.

An insoluble problem for the Democrat Party is how terminally dumb their supporters are.

Even after their propaganda has been eviscerated, and the sort reiterated by the moron above, these nitwits are unable to incorporate the new lies and leave the old ones.


NPR and the NYTimes admitted it, you are too dumb to understand it.

"The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election," Barr wrote in a letter to leaders of the House and Senate judiciary committees on Sunday afternoon.That was despite "multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign," he wrote. Mueller Report Doesn't Find Russian Collusion, But Can't 'Exonerate' On Obstruction

“ The report further explains that a primary consideration for the Special Counsel's investigation was whether any Americans – including individuals associated with the Trump campaign – joined the Russian conspiracies to influence the election, which would be a federal crime. The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election. As the report states: “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” As noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that any U.S. person or Trump campaign official or associate conspired or knowingly coordinated with the IRA in its efforts, although the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian nationals and entities in connection with these activities.” Read Attorney General William Barr’s Summary of the Mueller Report (Published 2019)

"Clinton's indicted campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann files motion to DISMISS charges in the Durham probe: Claims it was an overreach to accuse him of lying to a federal agent as Hillary spying claims​

• Durham accused Sussmann of lying to then-FBI General Counsel James Baker by saying he wasn't hired by anyone to find the ties
• Now released evidence Sussmann was paid by Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign
• DNS data from Trump Tower and Whitehouse servers was exploited in an attempt to document a link between Trump and Russian banks "
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  Hillary's campaign lawyer files motion to DISMISS Durham charges​

  Hillary's campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann's legal team filed a motion for Special Counsel John Durham to drop his case against their client that alleges he lied to the FBI in September 2016.
  
  
  www.dailymail.co.uk

It has always been the Democrats.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is a route to what you typed. For in reality, once D-Day happened the Euro war was over in a year.

I don't know what you are trying to say.

 

[GWV5903]

Point being (my prior post), if we had attacked Russia we may have lost to Germany. We would have been put in the very situation that led to Germany's defeat. Unless you meant AFTER D-Day. Even after that we would have had to hold Germany down while also fighting Russia and the Japanese.

That could have put a whole new twist on things.

You are dead wrong, we would have succeeded and it was the single largest mistake made in WW II, we have continued to fight an enemy for over 75 years, lived with the threat of Nuclear War and to this day we are fighting them in proxy wars. They want Ukraine back because it was the jewel of the former Soviet Union, agriculture, aerospace, industry and abundant fossil fuel reserves…

 

[PoliticalChic]

You are dead wrong, we would have succeeded and it was the single largest mistake made in WW II, we have continued to fight an enemy for over 75 years, lived with the threat of Nuclear War and to this day we are fighting them in proxy wars. They want Ukraine back because it was the jewel of the former Soviet Union, agriculture, aerospace, industry and abundant fossil fuel reserves…

Just imagine, if there hadn't been a Communist motherland, secure in that they had atomic bombs, provided by FDR,....

.......there would be no Red China, no Korean War, and no Vietnamese War



...and no cultural Marxism prevalent in society today.


The explanation in one word: Democrats.

 

[GWV5903]

Just imagine, if there hadn't been a Communist motherland, secure in that they had atomic bombs, provided by FDR,....

.......there would be no Red China, no Korean War, and no Vietnamese War



...and no cultural Marxism prevalent in society today.


The explanation in one word: Democrats.

It's so clear, I will never understand how they miss the obvious...

And today we live with their corruption to remove the best POTUS since Reagan and here we are in another Proxy War / hopefully short conflict...

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's so clear, I will never understand how they miss the obvious...

And today we live with their corruption to remove the best POTUS since Reagan and here we are in another Proxy War / hopefully short conflict...

Reagan .....and Trump......the interludes in the middle of

“Cultural Marxism, though it’s dismissed by critics as a “term invented by the Right”, “was an undeniable school of thought taking Marxist categories of oppressed and oppressor beyond the economic realm and applying to it other forms of oppression: gender, race, sexuality.” Caldron Pool

 

[GMCGeneral]

If that had happened we might be writing in German right now..

Not really as Moscow would've been vaporized from a nuke.

 

[Donald H]

Gen. Patton was right. After Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we should have gone after Stalingrad and Moscow next.

It was an opportunity lost but the reasons aren't clear.

But more important it's an acknowledgement that it's always been America's goal.

All the years of demonizing Russia is being put to the test and many are speaking out with the truth as being illustrated in the current war.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. For most of a century Democrat foreign policy vis-a-vis Russia, the Soviet Union, has been to embrace, make excuses for, and shield the Kremlin. Of course, the favor has been returned....as in the fake dossier that the Kremlin provided to Hillary and Democrats.


2. Then:
There can be no argument about FDR's pro-dictatorship proclivities. He raced to embrace Stalin's Bolsheviks when no previous President nor Sec'y of State would deign to do so.
"Four Presidents and their six Secretaries of State for over a decade and a half held to this resolve," i.e., refusal to recognize the Soviet government. That was written by Herbert Hoover, one of those four Presidents. He wrote it in his "Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath"by George H. Nash, published posthumously, obviously, in 2011, pg 24-29.

Roosevelt: "I would rather lose New Zealand, Australia or anything else than have the Russian front collapse."​

Robert Dallek, "Franklin D. Roosevelt and American Foreign Policy, 1932-1945," p. 338.​

Yup!​

'Russia Uber Alles'​

​

What nation did Roosevelt represent, again?​

3. Now:

"Biden energy policy enriched Russia, emboldened Putin, enabled invasion of Ukraine, critics claim​

"When President Joe Biden first took office, he revoked permission for construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline, banned new leases for oil and gas production on federal land, and planned on restricting methane waste emissions from natural gas drilling on public lands. While the U.S. pipeline construction has stopped, a Louisiana federal judge's ruling has delayed the Biden administration's plan to restrict natural gas drilling.

Largely as a result of such sharp restrictions on U.S. energy production, gas prices at the pump have jumped by $1 a gallon from a year ago, and oil prices have skyrocketed to $90 a barrel — the highest levels since the Obama administration.

Last year, Biden also lifted bipartisan congressional sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which was to deliver Russian natural gas to Germany. Following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Biden announced that he would reinstitute the sanctions, an announcement that came a day after Germany halted certification of the pipeline.

The only option for Biden to "affect Russian behavior — is to kick them out of the international banking system, and he wouldn't do it,"

Biden energy policy enriched Russia, emboldened Putin, enabled invasion of Ukraine, critics claim

"The Biden Administration is nickel and diming our way forward when we should be putting punitive sanctions, in the immediate moment, on the primary source of revenue for Russia which is their energy and oil exports," former VP Mike Pence tweeted.

justthenews.com

If it is not the geography that the Democrats appear to be enamoured by, it can only be ideology.