Cult Personality of George W. Bush

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Didn't Bush claim that God told him to invade Iraq?

Even if that was true (which it ain't)

According to those present, it is true. I can't post a link because I haven't made a enough posts yet on this forum and it won't let me, but if you Google Bush God and Iraq you'll find them.

tell me how your own rights to think differently was violated by the president's wishes?

The right to live for over 4,000 American soldiers was violated.

You might be correct that a president who bases his actions on the commands of God might be dangerous. That argument by itself might be pretty valid but when you combine it with everything else the left wants to do and the relentless attacks against people expressing religious views that are christian then you get a picture that its not about a religious nutcase in the whitehouse but about a christian being in the whitehouse.

What scares people is the leader of the free world attacking a sovereign nation based on the claim that it's God's will. How is it any different than radical Muslims waging Jihad on the western world claiming the same? I don't deny that the far left have a general fear of religion, but someone like Bush fuels that fire. Many atrocities have been committed in the Name of God and one should be leery about such crusades. I don't want politicians preaching to me about their idea of morality or using the law to enforce it. It's not their place to do so.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This is the question I am asking of people who objected to Bush's christianity.

I think we're talking at cross purposes here. I have yet to meet anyone that objected to Mr. Bush, or anyone for that matter, being Christian. The issue with his religion, which is the same issue many voters I know have with Palin, is the fear that he/she will legislate based on religion, not upon the interest of the nation.

Ultimately, we want our leaders to check religion at the door and do what is in the best interest of the survival of our nation.

Yet the common cry from the left is I didn't vote for Palin because she is a religious freak yet she attends church regularly just like any other person. How does that make someone a religious nut or dangerous.

Because any other person can't legislate their religion into law for everyone to follow.

However we seem not to be allowed to have the same concern when Obama's church preaches some pretty weird stuff.

Are you kidding? There was plenty of outcry over Obama's church and Jeremiah Wright and tons of news coverage about it.

 

[ihopehefails]

Didn't Bush claim that God told him to invade Iraq?

Even if that was true (which it ain't)

According to those present, it is true. I can't post a link because I haven't made a enough posts yet on this forum and it won't let me, but if you Google Bush God and Iraq you'll find them.

tell me how your own rights to think differently was violated by the president's wishes?

The right to live for over 4,000 American soldiers was violated.

You might be correct that a president who bases his actions on the commands of God might be dangerous. That argument by itself might be pretty valid but when you combine it with everything else the left wants to do and the relentless attacks against people expressing religious views that are christian then you get a picture that its not about a religious nutcase in the whitehouse but about a christian being in the whitehouse.

What scares people is the leader of the free world attacking a sovereign nation based on the claim that it's God's will. How is it any different than radical Muslims waging Jihad on the western world claiming the same? I don't deny that the far left have a general fear of religion, but someone like Bush fuels that fire. Many atrocities have been committed in the Name of God and one should be leery about such crusades. I don't want politicians preaching to me about their idea of morality or using the law to enforce it. It's not their place to do so.

Actually if you read the official report Bush stated several reasons for invading Iraq and none of them had to do with God told him and the 4000 people who died didn't lose their rights. They lost their lives which is different than losing one's ability to practice the religion that they want to and that was never under threat under George W. Bush's presidency.

 

[ihopehefails]

I think we're talking at cross purposes here. I have yet to meet anyone that objected to Mr. Bush, or anyone for that matter, being Christian. The issue with his religion, which is the same issue many voters I know have with Palin, is the fear that he/she will legislate based on religion, not upon the interest of the nation.

Ultimately, we want our leaders to check religion at the door and do what is in the best interest of the survival of our nation.

Yet the common cry from the left is I didn't vote for Palin because she is a religious freak yet she attends church regularly just like any other person. How does that make someone a religious nut or dangerous.

Because any other person can't legislate their religion into law for everyone to follow.

However we seem not to be allowed to have the same concern when Obama's church preaches some pretty weird stuff.

Are you kidding? There was plenty of outcry over Obama's church and Jeremiah Wright and tons of news coverage about it.

It wasn't because people were pissed that he went it was because his preacher was a communist who said things like "God Damn America" yet no one is concerned about Obama's church getting legislated into law.

 

[ihopehefails]

The president of the United States under the Bush years was a cult personality built around religious zealotry of the christian right or at least this is how the far left saw it. They feared that a president who uttered the phrase "God bless you" was a threat to their civil liberties because everyone might become christian. They feared a mass wave of christian converts would take over the country because the president was a christian.

The cult personality that existed during those years did not exist in the minds of George W. Bush or most conservatives (who rightfully saw no objection to the president's beliefs) but in the minds of most liberals who feared that his very words would cause us to give up our own beliefs and become "christian". What else could explain the objection to a president's religion or expression of as a violation of the first amendment which starts out with "congress shall pass no law..." when no law that would violate the first amendment was ever proposed.

How do you explain how a "personality" makes people think different or become that personality? Its laws that we must fear as a threat to our civil liberties and not the religious views of the president.

Admit it....Bush was your Messiah

I forgot all the pictures of Bush's head replacing the seal of the United States.....

 

[Dr Grump]

Actually if you read the official report Bush stated several reasons for invading Iraq and none of them had to do with God told him and the 4000 people who died didn't lose their rights. They lost their lives which is different than losing one's ability to practice the religion that they want to and that was never under threat under George W. Bush's presidency.

Who cares about the right to practice religion? That is not the point. Did he invade because his God told him to? That is the question...

As for those 4000 people - well, they have no rights now...

Thanks George....

 

[ihopehefails]

Actually if you read the official report Bush stated several reasons for invading Iraq and none of them had to do with God told him and the 4000 people who died didn't lose their rights. They lost their lives which is different than losing one's ability to practice the religion that they want to and that was never under threat under George W. Bush's presidency.

Who cares about the right to practice religion? That is not the point. Did he invade because his God told him to? That is the question...

As for those 4000 people - well, they have no rights now...

Thanks George....

Not according to the official report....

 

[ihopehefails]

Unfortunately most people really are just sheep in the end. For the most part they simply buy into what ever story-line the Liberal dominated MSM creates for a particular politician. For Bush,the Liberal Press created an "Evil Nazi Religious Fanatic" story-line and for their Hopey Changey they have created a "Noble Hope & Change Abraham Lincoln Messiah" story-line. It's all about the Liberal MSM and their Goebbels-like propaganda. The guy with the (R) by his or her name is "Evil" but the guy with the (D) by his or her name is "Good." You would think most Americans would have figured this media game out by now. Maybe in time they will. I'm not too optimistic on that one though.

I think you are the only person who got the point of this thread.

 

[Dr Grump]

Not according to the official report....

...which is the one we believe...right?

 

[Dr Grump]

Unfortunately most people really are just sheep in the end. For the most part they simply buy into what ever story-line the Liberal dominated MSM creates for a particular politician. For Bush,the Liberal Press created an "Evil Nazi Religious Fanatic" story-line and for their Hopey Changey they have created a "Noble Hope & Change Abraham Lincoln Messiah" story-line. It's all about the Liberal MSM and their Goebbels-like propaganda. The guy with the (R) by his or her name is "Evil" but the guy with the (D) by his or her name is "Good." You would think most Americans would have figured this media game out by now. Maybe in time they will. I'm not too optimistic on that one though.

I think you are the only person who got the point of this thread.

BS. Just another partisan hack....

 

[ihopehefails]

I think we're talking at cross purposes here. I have yet to meet anyone that objected to Mr. Bush, or anyone for that matter, being Christian. The issue with his religion, which is the same issue many voters I know have with Palin, is the fear that he/she will legislate based on religion, not upon the interest of the nation.

Ultimately, we want our leaders to check religion at the door and do what is in the best interest of the survival of our nation.

Yet the common cry from the left is I didn't vote for Palin because she is a religious freak yet she attends church regularly just like any other person. How does that make someone a religious nut or dangerous.

Because any other person can't legislate their religion into law for everyone to follow.

However we seem not to be allowed to have the same concern when Obama's church preaches some pretty weird stuff.

Are you kidding? There was plenty of outcry over Obama's church and Jeremiah Wright and tons of news coverage about it.

Its actually constitutional for laws to be based on some religious concepts such as "thou shall not murder" because the first amendment is designed to prevent the government from establishing an official church. Wherever an official church policy has been enacted all other religions were squashed because the state adopted one church as its own church much like the Church of England under the British Monarchy did.

 

[ihopehefails]

Not according to the official report....

...which is the one we believe...right?

I choose to believe something actually written down you believe some made up theory that only ever existed in your mind.

 

[ihopehefails]

Unfortunately most people really are just sheep in the end. For the most part they simply buy into what ever story-line the Liberal dominated MSM creates for a particular politician. For Bush,the Liberal Press created an "Evil Nazi Religious Fanatic" story-line and for their Hopey Changey they have created a "Noble Hope & Change Abraham Lincoln Messiah" story-line. It's all about the Liberal MSM and their Goebbels-like propaganda. The guy with the (R) by his or her name is "Evil" but the guy with the (D) by his or her name is "Good." You would think most Americans would have figured this media game out by now. Maybe in time they will. I'm not too optimistic on that one though.

I think you are the only person who got the point of this thread.

BS. Just another partisan hack....

Partisan...thank you.

 

[Dr Grump]

Not according to the official report....

...which is the one we believe...right?

I choose to believe something actually written down you believe some made up theory that only ever existed in your mind.

Both were BS reasons...so take your pick....

 

[ihopehefails]

...which is the one we believe...right?

I choose to believe something actually written down you believe some made up theory that only ever existed in your mind.

Both were BS reasons...so take your pick....

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Actually if you read the official report Bush stated several reasons for invading Iraq and none of them had to do with God told him

That doesn't prove he never said it.

and the 4000 people who died didn't lose their rights. They lost their lives

Exactly. Which is worse? Rights don't matter a whole lot if you're dead.

which is different than losing one's ability to practice the religion that they want to and that was never under threat under George W. Bush's presidency.

Who is arguing that it was? I said that the threat people feel from an overly religious president is that they'll try to legislate their religious values and morals into law.

 

[Father Time]

They feared that a president who uttered the phrase "God bless you" was a threat to their civil liberties because everyone might become christian.

Would you please stop making shit up. Every politician says shit like that.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Are you kidding? There was plenty of outcry over Obama's church and Jeremiah Wright and tons of news coverage about it.

It wasn't because people were pissed that he went it was because his preacher was a communist who said things like "God Damn America" yet no one is concerned about Obama's church getting legislated into law.

They're concerned about the ideas preached by the church getting signed into law. What is the difference?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Its actually constitutional for laws to be based on some religious concepts such as "thou shall not murder" because the first amendment is designed to prevent the government from establishing an official church.

Not murdering people is pretty much a universal wrong recognized by everyone. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about laws banning abortion, instilling prayer in the public schools, and determining who can and can't be married based upon a politician's religious views.

 

[jillian]

It was a broad brush for about 6 years there...

Then the independent and Libertarian parties started to gain more members.
But the Demoncratic party membership stayed about the same...

that's because fleeing repubs defected to the libertarians...no reason for dems to go anywhere... so people dying were replaced by new voters