Conservative evangelical leaders embrace path to citizenship

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It is now official, both parties extremists are insane.

A group of conservative evangelical leaders broke with their political brethren Wednesday, coming to Washington to push the White House and congressional leaders to pass comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path for undocumented immigrants to attain legal status. Political conservatives have long balked at an immigration policy that includes what they term "amnesty" for illegal immigrants, but the evangelicals see the issue differently.

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conservative evangelical leaders should stay in church and shut the fuck up

they've done more to damage this country than just about any group i can think of
 
And what part of "evangelical leaders" were you confused about? Or were you giving them the benefit of the doubt of sanity?
 
I am pro amnesty , after closing the borders , and here is why.

It would be ridiculously expensive to actually round up all the illegal alien, give them their day in court, and then deport them. Not to mention the tricky legal issue of their children who were born here. Even if they changed the law today to eliminate anchor babies you can't take citizenship away from those who already have it. I mean do you have ANY idea how much that would cost to accomplish?

Simple solution. Close the borders tighter than a ticks ass then immediately announce that ALL illegals have 30 days to get their brown butts down to an INS office where they will pay a significant fine (or be deported immediately) then register for a program to get them on the path to citizenship. After 30 days any person caught in the US illegal is a federal felon facing a 5 year sentence mandatory.

It will NEVER happen because neither party cares to see it actually be done.
 
It is now official, both parties extremists are insane.

Insane, or crazy like a fox?

Just read what

The Rev. Sam Rodriguez, Jr., president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference said that a past disconnect between the pulpit and pew "diminishes in respect to rising conservative leaders," and he reminded those leaders to think carefully about their positions.

"Without the Hispanic vote the Republican Party and the conservative movement will need to garnish, in light of my colleagues around me, a miracle of sorts in order to win in Florida, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and eventually Texas," he said.

In other words......If the Republicans would stop being idiotic, they could have a very powerful block of voters that are really extremely conservative in many ways....They're not asking for open borders: Only a solution to the illegals that are already here. ANY FUCKING SOLUTION rather than sitting on their asses, would be a welcome change.
 
It is now official, both parties extremists are insane.

Insane, or crazy like a fox?

Just read what

The Rev. Sam Rodriguez, Jr., president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference said that a past disconnect between the pulpit and pew "diminishes in respect to rising conservative leaders," and he reminded those leaders to think carefully about their positions.

"Without the Hispanic vote the Republican Party and the conservative movement will need to garnish, in light of my colleagues around me, a miracle of sorts in order to win in Florida, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and eventually Texas," he said.
In other words......If the Republicans would stop being idiotic, they could have a very powerful block of voters that are really extremely conservative in many ways....They're not asking for open borders: Only a solution to the illegals that are already here. ANY FUCKING SOLUTION rather than sitting on their asses, would be a welcome change.

Except that most Hispanics oppose amnesty.

FOXNews.com - Poll Says Many Hispanics Are Against Amnesty - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

Which is the real reason it is dead on arrival when it gets proposed.
 
It is now official, both parties extremists are insane.

Insane, or crazy like a fox?

Just read what

The Rev. Sam Rodriguez, Jr., president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference said that a past disconnect between the pulpit and pew "diminishes in respect to rising conservative leaders," and he reminded those leaders to think carefully about their positions.

"Without the Hispanic vote the Republican Party and the conservative movement will need to garnish, in light of my colleagues around me, a miracle of sorts in order to win in Florida, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and eventually Texas," he said.
In other words......If the Republicans would stop being idiotic, they could have a very powerful block of voters that are really extremely conservative in many ways....They're not asking for open borders: Only a solution to the illegals that are already here. ANY FUCKING SOLUTION rather than sitting on their asses, would be a welcome change.

Except that most Hispanics oppose amnesty.

FOXNews.com - Poll Says Many Hispanics Are Against Amnesty - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

Which is the real reason it is dead on arrival when it gets proposed.

"AMNESTY" may be one thing.

"Path to Citizenship" may be another.

The 2008 Republican platform flat out says: "WE OPPOSE AMNESTY"

Yet, here you have McCain proposing all sorts of ways people who have entered the USA illegally may become citizens.

The 2008 Democratic platform says that you learn to speak english, apply for citizenship, and we'll consider letting you stay.

Frankly, both parties are saying pretty much the same thing.

Rev Rodriguez recognises this, and is suggesting Republicans shit or get off the pot because he knows that the Republican (or "Conservative") agenda, particularly anti-abortion, will be easier to sell to his flock.
 
I am pro amnesty , after closing the borders , and here is why.

It would be ridiculously expensive to actually round up all the illegal alien, give them their day in court, and then deport them. Not to mention the tricky legal issue of their children who were born here. Even if they changed the law today to eliminate anchor babies you can't take citizenship away from those who already have it. I mean do you have ANY idea how much that would cost to accomplish?

Simple solution. Close the borders tighter than a ticks ass then immediately announce that ALL illegals have 30 days to get their brown butts down to an INS office where they will pay a significant fine (or be deported immediately) then register for a program to get them on the path to citizenship. After 30 days any person caught in the US illegal is a federal felon facing a 5 year sentence mandatory.

It will NEVER happen because neither party cares to see it actually be done.

Whats so hard about it. Just because an illegal has a baby here, there is no reason we can't kick the parent out of the country. Sure, they could leave their baby here with some legal relatives or put it up for adoption, but if they want to stay with the child then they have to take it with them out of the country.
 
I am pro amnesty , after closing the borders , and here is why.

It would be ridiculously expensive to actually round up all the illegal alien, give them their day in court, and then deport them. Not to mention the tricky legal issue of their children who were born here. Even if they changed the law today to eliminate anchor babies you can't take citizenship away from those who already have it. I mean do you have ANY idea how much that would cost to accomplish?

Simple solution. Close the borders tighter than a ticks ass then immediately announce that ALL illegals have 30 days to get their brown butts down to an INS office where they will pay a significant fine (or be deported immediately) then register for a program to get them on the path to citizenship. After 30 days any person caught in the US illegal is a federal felon facing a 5 year sentence mandatory.

It will NEVER happen because neither party cares to see it actually be done.

Whats so hard about it. Just because an illegal has a baby here, there is no reason we can't kick the parent out of the country. Sure, they could leave their baby here with some legal relatives or put it up for adoption, but if they want to stay with the child then they have to take it with them out of the country.


Don't be a stupid prick. What you can do and what is the logical , compassionate thing to do are two different things. You're going to force a child to be separated from their parents? What kind of fucking moron are you?
 
Whats so hard about it. Just because an illegal has a baby here, there is no reason we can't kick the parent out of the country. Sure, they could leave their baby here with some legal relatives or put it up for adoption, but if they want to stay with the child then they have to take it with them out of the country.


Don't be a stupid prick. What you can do and what is the logical , compassionate thing to do are two different things. You're going to force a child to be separated from their parents? What kind of fucking moron are you?

the hawk is just a fucking idiot. pay no attention.
 
Whats so hard about it. Just because an illegal has a baby here, there is no reason we can't kick the parent out of the country. Sure, they could leave their baby here with some legal relatives or put it up for adoption, but if they want to stay with the child then they have to take it with them out of the country.


Don't be a stupid prick. What you can do and what is the logical , compassionate thing to do are two different things. You're going to force a child to be separated from their parents? What kind of fucking moron are you?

the hawk is just a fucking idiot. pay no attention.

That seems to pretty endemic around here.
 
Don't be a stupid prick. What you can do and what is the logical , compassionate thing to do are two different things. You're going to force a child to be separated from their parents? What kind of fucking moron are you?

the hawk is just a fucking idiot. pay no attention.

That seems to pretty endemic around here.

There are times when idiocy is the coin of the realm. sigh

Have you met the admin, Gunny, yet? :eusa_whistle:
 
the hawk is just a fucking idiot. pay no attention.

That seems to pretty endemic around here.

There are times when idiocy is the coin of the realm. sigh

Have you met the admin, Gunny, yet? :eusa_whistle:


No, I have not had that honor. I figure the way I'm throwing around the F word and schooling young Sangha's ass every time he tries to spew his garbage it won't be long.
 
There is nothing new about this position. The Catholic Church has been a backer of amnesty and forms of socialism for years. Priests particularly in the southwest will even provide sanctuary for illegals.
 
Insane, or crazy like a fox?

Just read what

In other words......If the Republicans would stop being idiotic, they could have a very powerful block of voters that are really extremely conservative in many ways....They're not asking for open borders: Only a solution to the illegals that are already here. ANY FUCKING SOLUTION rather than sitting on their asses, would be a welcome change.

Except that most Hispanics oppose amnesty.

FOXNews.com - Poll Says Many Hispanics Are Against Amnesty - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

Which is the real reason it is dead on arrival when it gets proposed.

"AMNESTY" may be one thing.

"Path to Citizenship" may be another.

The 2008 Republican platform flat out says: "WE OPPOSE AMNESTY"

Yet, here you have McCain proposing all sorts of ways people who have entered the USA illegally may become citizens.

The 2008 Democratic platform says that you learn to speak english, apply for citizenship, and we'll consider letting you stay.

Frankly, both parties are saying pretty much the same thing.

Rev Rodriguez recognises this, and is suggesting Republicans shit or get off the pot because he knows that the Republican (or "Conservative") agenda, particularly anti-abortion, will be easier to sell to his flock.

"Path to Citizenship" is the same thing as Amnesty. We need to reform the immigration process, make it faster and easier for those who are willing to work. Then everyone who is here illegally should admit it, and apply for the regular process, by returning to their country and applying at the local consulate.

Republicans have been talking about the natural match between Hispanics and their conservative social issues for years, but Hispanics vote Democratic because the prefer the Democratic view of government, not the Republican view.
 

Thanks for the neg rep, and pointing out that I am an extremest. since I have been accused of being a liberal and a conservative here, exactly what extreme am I?
 

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