"Comparative Effectiveness Center" in Reconciliation bill - oh you mean rationing

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    "Comparative Effectiveness Center" in Reconciliation bill - oh you mean rationing


    Tip: HotAir


    Page 1557 has the Comparative Effectiveness Center:

    http://budget.house.gov/doc-library/...iation2010.PDF

    (1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall establish within the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality a Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’) to conduct, support, and synthesize research (including research conducted or supported under section 1013 of the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003) with respect to the outcomes, effectiveness, and appropriateness of health care services and procedures in order to identify the manner in which diseases, disorders, and other health conditions can most effectively and appropriately be prevented, diagnosed, treated, and managed clinically.
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    (i) DIVERSE REPRESENTATION OF PERSPECTIVES.—The members of the Commission shall represent a broad range of perspectives and shall collectively have experience in the following areas:

    (I) Epidemiology.
    (II) Health services research.
    (III) Bioethics.
    (IV) Decision sciences.
    (V) Health disparities.
    (VI) Economics.
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    What is “comparative effectiveness”? It’s a system of rationing scarce resources, and it has everything to do with economics.


    Oh of course, Professor Altman in front of the Senate Finance Committee hearings on health-care reform summed it up well:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsx_QILgzjc]YouTube - Health Policy Professor Discusses The 'Cost-Benefit' Of Elderly Recieving Federal Healthcare[/ame]




    Comrades,

    I believe that our Most Great Leader, Papa Obama said it best when it comes to health care rationing and saving money- "take a pill"

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo&feature=player_embedded[/ame]




    See:

    A possible way the Comparative Effectiveness Center [Death Panels} might work ?
     
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    govt care means deathcare.
     
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    Sure does, it's also against the tenth and so being illigal in this country. The federal government has no right to control peoples lifes.
     
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    You know what else is weird

    Canadian Premier Williams goes to US to have heart surgery

    He said:

    “This was my heart, my choice and my health,” Williams said. ”I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics.”
    :eusa_whistle:
     
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    I wonder where he will go after we have Canada's like healthcare system. No where to run for help anymore after they destroy America's healthcare system that probally saved his life. .:cuckoo:
     
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    The federal government was never given the power to do this in the first place. It has no right to control peoples lifes under the 10th's.
     
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    Well, you can go to Singapore, Costa Rica, and many other countries that have excellant doctors and facilities. These same countries have universal health care, also.

    The level of ignorance demonstrated by those opposing fixing our broken health care system is truly amazing. Virtually all the nations with universal health care have better longevity and infant mortality stats than we do, yet they continue to insist ours is a better system. And we pay nearly twice as much per capita, and fail to cover tens of millions of our citizens.
     
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    Bullshit.

    Preamble
    We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
     
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    Using your logic, then why even have a Constitution? Since the gov't can do anything it wants


    The constitution is a document meant to LIMIT gov't power not enhance. Which is why it spends so much time telling us what the gov't CAN'T do

    It does not find ways to increase it.

    As such, promoting general welfare would mean making sure the gov't is not intruding into the lives of the people


    Keep the Pelosi talking points to yourself.
    Let me guess, you think the "commerce clause" gives the Federal gov't the right as well?
    :lol:
     
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