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1948I thought the Communist-Democrat merger was already completed
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1948I thought the Communist-Democrat merger was already completed
Yet no one has come forth to claim such an easy prize? I wonder why?Seems silly to wager over two identical ducks i.e. Dems and CP.So you say. Take the wager I made with RoshawnMarkwees, show me a Dem supporting the Communist Party.
Are you Simple Jack? How about the entire field of democrat potus candidates?Do what? You never provided a quote or other evidence to support your assertion that things are mutual between dems and communists/socialists. For every one you can provide I'll look for a counter.Then do it.I'd wager that for every Dem you can quote supporting the Communist Party, I can find one where the GOP is supporting either the KKK or Neo-Nazis.That’s the first response I expected when reading this thread.Yawn. The KKK and Neo-Nazis prefer the GOP. Does that mean the GOP is racist and anti-Semitic or just that in a two party system everyone has to choose a party.The Democratic party remains entrenched in an agenda to pursue ideals based in socialism. Whether it’s free healthcare, free education, or monthly stipends for the unemployed and employed, socialism is a real part of the Democratic party’s pitch to America. That said, the relationship between the Democratic party and socialism is contentious. Democrats, at times, deny their attempting to implement versions of socialism that’s led to societal collapses around the world.
Communist Party USA To Align With Democrats
Because when your losers and authoritarian mental nuts..........
The difference in your attempted analogy is that things aren’t mutual between repubs and the KKK the way they are between dems and communists/socialists.
That's the theory. The problem is when implemented it fails miserably every time just like it's sibling Communism.Socialism elevates people over profits; what's your problem with that?The Democratic party remains entrenched in an agenda to pursue ideals based in socialism. Whether it’s free healthcare, free education, or monthly stipends for the unemployed and employed, socialism is a real part of the Democratic party’s pitch to America. That said, the relationship between the Democratic party and socialism is contentious. Democrats, at times, deny their attempting to implement versions of socialism that’s led to societal collapses around the world.
Communist Party USA To Align With Democrats
Because when your losers and authoritarian mental nuts..........
People over profit: What is Socialism?
"As I wrote before, socialism abolishes profit, along with all other unearned income (rent and interest). Thus, it must also abolish the market economy and private companies.
"To be more exact, socialism abolishes private ownership over the means of production – workplaces, natural resources, and all the machines and equipment used to produce goods and services – and places them under public ownership.
"They become the property of society, collectively owned by all citizens so that each citizen becomes a kind of 'shareholder' in the national economy.
"In other words, all firms and companies are placed under the collective authority of the people.
"The people will then be able to decide, democratically, how their new property is to be used.
"Socialism is economic democracy."Socialism's "failures" have happened because capitalists control the global economy and the most powerful military in world history. We can't judge how effective Economic Democracy can be until it's tried in the USAThat's the theory. The problem is when implemented it fails miserably every time just like it's sibling Communism.
Which richest country is the most unequal?So Socialist governments fail because of outside influences? Uh Uh. They fail because when you concentrate all the wealth in the State, they also have all the power. That inevitably leads to corruption, theft of the all the wealth by the ruling elite and the abandonment of the people.That's the theory. The problem is when implemented it fails miserably every time just like it's sibling Communism.Socialism elevates people over profits; what's your problem with that?The Democratic party remains entrenched in an agenda to pursue ideals based in socialism. Whether it’s free healthcare, free education, or monthly stipends for the unemployed and employed, socialism is a real part of the Democratic party’s pitch to America. That said, the relationship between the Democratic party and socialism is contentious. Democrats, at times, deny their attempting to implement versions of socialism that’s led to societal collapses around the world.
Communist Party USA To Align With Democrats
Because when your losers and authoritarian mental nuts..........
People over profit: What is Socialism?
"As I wrote before, socialism abolishes profit, along with all other unearned income (rent and interest). Thus, it must also abolish the market economy and private companies.
"To be more exact, socialism abolishes private ownership over the means of production – workplaces, natural resources, and all the machines and equipment used to produce goods and services – and places them under public ownership.
"They become the property of society, collectively owned by all citizens so that each citizen becomes a kind of 'shareholder' in the national economy.
"In other words, all firms and companies are placed under the collective authority of the people.
"The people will then be able to decide, democratically, how their new property is to be used.
"Socialism is economic democracy."Socialism's "failures" have happened because capitalists control the global economy and the most powerful military in world history. We can't judge how effective Economic Democracy can be until it's tried in the USAThat's the theory. The problem is when implemented it fails miserably every time just like it's sibling Communism.
Which richest country is the most unequal?
Democracy dies when wealth/income consolidates into too few hands, and nothing generates wealth like capitalism.So Socialist governments fail because of outside influences? Uh Uh. They fail because when you concentrate all the wealth in the State, they also have all the power. That inevitably leads to corruption, theft of the all the wealth by the ruling elite and the abandonment of the people.
That's the theory. The problem is when implemented it fails miserably every time just like it's sibling Communism.Socialism elevates people over profits; what's your problem with that?The Democratic party remains entrenched in an agenda to pursue ideals based in socialism. Whether it’s free healthcare, free education, or monthly stipends for the unemployed and employed, socialism is a real part of the Democratic party’s pitch to America. That said, the relationship between the Democratic party and socialism is contentious. Democrats, at times, deny their attempting to implement versions of socialism that’s led to societal collapses around the world.
Communist Party USA To Align With Democrats
Because when your losers and authoritarian mental nuts..........
People over profit: What is Socialism?
"As I wrote before, socialism abolishes profit, along with all other unearned income (rent and interest). Thus, it must also abolish the market economy and private companies.
"To be more exact, socialism abolishes private ownership over the means of production – workplaces, natural resources, and all the machines and equipment used to produce goods and services – and places them under public ownership.
"They become the property of society, collectively owned by all citizens so that each citizen becomes a kind of 'shareholder' in the national economy.
"In other words, all firms and companies are placed under the collective authority of the people.
"The people will then be able to decide, democratically, how their new property is to be used.
"Socialism is economic democracy."Socialism's "failures" have happened because capitalists control the global economy and the most powerful military in world history. We can't judge how effective Economic Democracy can be until it's tried in the USAThat's the theory. The problem is when implemented it fails miserably every time just like it's sibling Communism.
Which richest country is the most unequal?
Repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it so. How about showing us some evidence that ANY of the Dems expressed support for the Communist Party.Are you Simple Jack? How about the entire field of democrat potus candidates?You never provided a quote or other evidence to support your assertion that things are mutual between dems and communists/socialists. For every one you can provide I'll look for a counter.
They’re communist in their essence. Sanders honeymooned in the USSR!Repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it so. How about showing us some evidence that ANY of the Dems expressed support for the Communist Party.Are you Simple Jack? How about the entire field of democrat potus candidates?You never provided a quote or other evidence to support your assertion that things are mutual between dems and communists/socialists. For every one you can provide I'll look for a counter.
So everyone who has visited Cuba should be considered a commie too?They’re communist in their essence. Sanders honeymooned in the USSR!Repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it so. How about showing us some evidence that ANY of the Dems expressed support for the Communist Party.Are you Simple Jack? How about the entire field of democrat potus candidates?You never provided a quote or other evidence to support your assertion that things are mutual between dems and communists/socialists. For every one you can provide I'll look for a counter.
There’s a big difference between Russia and an island resort when it comes to vacationing. And anyone who endorses or embraces communism the way sanders does is essentially a commie.So everyone who has visited Cuba should be considered a commie too?They’re communist in their essence. Sanders honeymooned in the USSR!Repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it so. How about showing us some evidence that ANY of the Dems expressed support for the Communist Party.Are you Simple Jack? How about the entire field of democrat potus candidates?You never provided a quote or other evidence to support your assertion that things are mutual between dems and communists/socialists. For every one you can provide I'll look for a counter.
Really, I had no idea. What is the difference?There’s a big difference between Russia and an island resort when it comes to vacationing. And anyone who endorses or embraces communism the way sanders does is essentially a commie.So everyone who has visited Cuba should be considered a commie too?
Gee this is a fresh approach; "commie".The Democratic party remains entrenched in an agenda to pursue ideals based in socialism. Whether it’s free healthcare, free education, or monthly stipends for the unemployed and employed, socialism is a real part of the Democratic party’s pitch to America. That said, the relationship between the Democratic party and socialism is contentious. Democrats, at times, deny their attempting to implement versions of socialism that’s led to societal collapses around the world.
Communist Party USA To Align With Democrats
Because when your losers and authoritarian mental nuts..........
Is there a term for those who endorse or embrace what we now have?There’s a big difference between Russia and an island resort when it comes to vacationing. And anyone who endorses or embraces communism the way sanders does is essentially a commie.So everyone who has visited Cuba should be considered a commie too?They’re communist in their essence. Sanders honeymooned in the USSR!Repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it so. How about showing us some evidence that ANY of the Dems expressed support for the Communist Party.Are you Simple Jack? How about the entire field of democrat potus candidates?You never provided a quote or other evidence to support your assertion that things are mutual between dems and communists/socialists. For every one you can provide I'll look for a counter.
Yeah, there’s a term for it; way better than socialism.Is there a term for those who endorse or embrace what we now have?There’s a big difference between Russia and an island resort when it comes to vacationing. And anyone who endorses or embraces communism the way sanders does is essentially a commie.So everyone who has visited Cuba should be considered a commie too?They’re communist in their essence. Sanders honeymooned in the USSR!Repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it so. How about showing us some evidence that ANY of the Dems expressed support for the Communist Party.Are you Simple Jack? How about the entire field of democrat potus candidates?
Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses
Bernie is an avowed gov-control advocate.Really, I had no idea. What is the difference?There’s a big difference between Russia and an island resort when it comes to vacationing. And anyone who endorses or embraces communism the way sanders does is essentially a commie.So everyone who has visited Cuba should be considered a commie too?
I also didn't know Bernie endorses or embraces communism. Is this something you have examples of or is it just what you've been told?
Socialism abolishes profit and all other unearned income? Hmm. I thought that if individuals take the money they have and purchase property (their personal money, spent by them), pay for the building permits (their money spent by them), pay for companies to construct facilities for the product they've come up with), pay for the insurance to cover their investment, possible damages and legal issues), pay for the materials for production, manage the business and pay people to say, stuff a screw into a product on an assembly line, it is the owners that have taken all the risk and thus have a right to the profits from their investment.Socialism elevates people over profits; what's your problem with that?The Democratic party remains entrenched in an agenda to pursue ideals based in socialism. Whether it’s free healthcare, free education, or monthly stipends for the unemployed and employed, socialism is a real part of the Democratic party’s pitch to America. That said, the relationship between the Democratic party and socialism is contentious. Democrats, at times, deny their attempting to implement versions of socialism that’s led to societal collapses around the world.
Communist Party USA To Align With Democrats
Because when your losers and authoritarian mental nuts..........
People over profit: What is Socialism?
"As I wrote before, socialism abolishes profit, along with all other unearned income (rent and interest). Thus, it must also abolish the market economy and private companies.
"To be more exact, socialism abolishes private ownership over the means of production – workplaces, natural resources, and all the machines and equipment used to produce goods and services – and places them under public ownership.
"They become the property of society, collectively owned by all citizens so that each citizen becomes a kind of 'shareholder' in the national economy.
"In other words, all firms and companies are placed under the collective authority of the people.
"The people will then be able to decide, democratically, how their new property is to be used.
"Socialism is economic democracy."