Climate "Science" 101: Excess Heat

[CrusaderFrank]

The IPCC (redistribute wealth by Climate change) alleges that the oceans are "absorbing" 93% of "excess heat"

"Ocean warming dominates the global energy change inventory. Warming of the ocean accounts for about 93% of the increase in the Earth’s energy inventory between 1971 and 2010 (high confidence), with warming of the upper (0 to 700 m) ocean accounting for about 64% of the total.

It is likely that the ocean warmed between 700 and 2000 m from 1957 to 2009, based on 5-year averages. It is likely that the ocean warmed from 3000 m to the bottom from 1992 to 2005, while no significant trends in global average temperature were observed between 2000 and 3000 m depth during this period. Warming below 3000 m is largest in the Southern Ocean {3.2.4, 3.5.1, Figures 3.2b and 3.3, FAQ 3.1} ...

It is virtually certain that upper ocean (0 to 700 m) heat content increased during the relatively well-sampled 40-year period from 1971 to 2010."

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter03_FINAL.pdf

Topic for discussion:

1. What is Excess Heat?
2. Where was this excess heat hiding before being absorbed by the oceans
3. Describe the mechanism by which the ocean absorbs excess heat. The IPCC (redistribute wealth by Climate change) alleges that this process occurs from the surface all the down to the bottom of the Laurentian Abyss

 

[Crick]

The Laurentian Abyss? Are you a Transformer's fan?

Frank, you're just too far behind to be relying on other folks to catch you up. You're going to need to do a fair bit of it yourself, particularly since you actively resist anyone on the other side of the argument trying to educate you on anything. You're on your own, Frank. Or ask Billy Boy, or Westwalll or SSDD. They're all major science heavies. They'll catch you up. Deniers always take care of their own.

 

[waltky]

Uncle Ferd suspects that's what been making Granny so goofy here lately...

Activist Says Climate Change Affects Bodies, Brains, Too
September 18, 2015 | Pope Francis has said a “revolution” is needed to combat climate change. While the pope is in Washington, addressing the U.S. Congress on September 24, a "Moral Action for Climate Justice" rally will take place on the National Mall to address the climate crisis.

One of the organizers, Washington psychiatrist Lise Van Susteren, said climate change affects not only the planet and our bodies but also our brains, causing a host of psychological problems. People who don’t believe in climate change are denying what is “profoundly disturbing to them,” she said.

Van Susteren co-authored a study on the psychological impact of climate change. She told VOA that in the face of extreme weather, natural disasters and rising temperatures, she foresaw “increasing anxiety, fear and depression,” even “widespread outbreaks of violence” as resources like food become scarcer.

She saw global warming leading to “an uptick” in domestic violence and drug and alcohol abuse, adding that higher temperatures would also set in motion “more crime and suicides.” Van Susteren said that counselors and first responders “are not even close” to being able to handle the post-traumatic stress from people “losing their homes from flooding or from being burned down and farms being wiped out from tornadoes.”

And if that isn’t enough, she said, “there are also fears about future disasters,” such as hurricanes and wildfires. Describing this as “pre-traumatic stress,” she said “that vision of the future is already eating away at them. On some level, all of us are now struggling with pre-traumatic stress disorder,” including scientists who may see a future that looks bleak and suppress their grim predictions from the public. She said medical professionals “should be on the front lines, warning the rest of the world that action needs to be taken.”

Activist Says Climate Change Affects Bodies, Brains, Too

 

[Billy_Bob]

There is no such thing as 'excess' heat. Thermal equilibrium is controlled by many interlocking systems on the earth. no one system can overdrive any other as has been shown for over 450 million years.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There is no such thing as 'excess' heat. Thermal equilibrium is controlled by many interlocking systems on the earth. no one system can overdrive any other as has been shown for over 450 million years.

Crick agreed with you on that, but that was BEFORE he realized that there's no Warming without the imaginary "Excess Heat"

 

[Crick]

You're stupid enough as it is Frank. Don't embarrass yourself attempting to deduce the motives of others.

 

[Crick]

There is no such thing as 'excess' heat. Thermal equilibrium is controlled by many interlocking systems on the earth. no one system can overdrive any other as has been shown for over 450 million years.

Billy, are you suggesting that the Earth is currently, or at any point in the last several centuries, at actual thermal equilibrium?

 

[waltky]

Climate change gonna lead to more poor people...

World Bank: Climate change could result in 100 million poor
Nov 8,`15 -- Climate change could push more than 100 million people into extreme poverty by 2030 by disrupting agriculture and fueling the spread of malaria and other diseases, the World Bank said in a report Sunday.

Released just weeks ahead of a U.N. climate summit in Paris, the report highlighted how the impact of global warming is borne unevenly, with the world's poor woefully unprepared to deal with climate shocks such as rising seas or severe droughts. "They have fewer resources and receive less support from family, community, the financial system, and even social safety nets to prevent, cope and adapt," the Washington-based World Bank said. How to help poor countries - and poor communities within countries - deal with climate change is one of the crunch issues in talks on a global climate accord that's supposed to be adopted next month in Paris.

An Indian worker dismantles an old car amid heaps of scrap in Bangalore, India. Climate change could push more than 100 million people into extreme poverty by 2030 by disrupting agriculture and fueling the spread of malaria and other diseases, the World Bank said in a report Sunday Nov. 8, 2015. Carbon emissions are expected to rise for many years as China, India and other developing countries expand the use of fossil fuels to power their economies.​

Those who say that rich countries aren't doing enough to help the poor said the report added emphasis to demands for billions of dollars in so-called climate finance to developing countries. "The statistics in the World Bank report are suitably shocking and I hope they force world leaders to sit up and take notice," said Mohamed Adow of Christian Aid. "The Paris deal needs to support the poor and vulnerable communities to cope with unavoidable climate crises better, and to be more resilient to a changed climate." Despite pledges to rein in emissions of carbon dioxide and other global warming gases, climate change isn't likely to stop anytime soon. Carbon emissions are expected to rise for many years as China, India and other developing countries expand the use of fossil fuels to power their economies.

But efforts to protect the poor, such as generally improving access to health care and social safety nets, and targeted measures to upgrade flood defenses and deploy more heat-tolerant crops could prevent most of the negative consequences of climate change on poverty, the bank said. "Absent such good development, climate change could result in an additional 100 million people living in extreme poverty by 2030," the report said.

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[CrusaderFrank]

There is no such thing as 'excess' heat. Thermal equilibrium is controlled by many interlocking systems on the earth. no one system can overdrive any other as has been shown for over 450 million years.

Billy, are you suggesting that the Earth is currently, or at any point in the last several centuries, at actual thermal equilibrium?

Crick there was a study that global warming is making it harder to get laid. I suspect that might be your problem

 

[Old Rocks]

There is no such thing as 'excess' heat. Thermal equilibrium is controlled by many interlocking systems on the earth. no one system can overdrive any other as has been shown for over 450 million years.

Really stupid. Every hear of the P-T Extinction? The Ordovician Extinction? A couple more major ones, and some minor ones in which heat, or lack thereof, were the major players in the extinction.

 

[SSDD]

There is no such thing as 'excess' heat. Thermal equilibrium is controlled by many interlocking systems on the earth. no one system can overdrive any other as has been shown for over 450 million years.

Really stupid. Every hear of the P-T Extinction? The Ordovician Extinction? A couple more major ones, and some minor ones in which heat, or lack thereof, were the major players in the extinction.

So you can state in no uncertain terms exactly what was the cause of each and then describe precisely how anything that the human species is doing will cause a repeat of those events?

Didn't think so...vague threats of doom....misinformation....outright lies...those are the tools you have at your disposal and the FACT that you can't state with any certainty at all what led to those events is proof of your dishonesty.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There is no such thing as 'excess' heat. Thermal equilibrium is controlled by many interlocking systems on the earth. no one system can overdrive any other as has been shown for over 450 million years.

Really stupid. Every hear of the P-T Extinction? The Ordovician Extinction? A couple more major ones, and some minor ones in which heat, or lack thereof, were the major players in the extinction.

A massive asteroid impacted the planet...and caused climate change.

Yeah.

Sure.

The extinctions run on a more or less regular 50MM year cycle. So we can safely say that manmade global warming must wipe out all life on Earth on a fairly regular schedule

 

[Crick]

Billy Bob, are you actually rejecting the Chicxulub impact as the K-T Boundary event? Really?

Please tell us what actually wiped out the dinosaurs and what created that layer of Iridium seen round the entire planet dating everywhere to the precise same time?

Oh please. I cannot wait to see this.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Billy Bob, are you actually rejecting the Chicxulub impact as the K-T Boundary event? Really?

Please tell us what actually wiped out the dinosaurs and what created that layer of Iridium seen round the entire planet dating everywhere to the precise same time?

Oh please. I cannot wait to see this.

Global warming... Duh

 

[Billy_Bob]

There is no such thing as 'excess' heat. Thermal equilibrium is controlled by many interlocking systems on the earth. no one system can overdrive any other as has been shown for over 450 million years.

Billy, are you suggesting that the Earth is currently, or at any point in the last several centuries, at actual thermal equilibrium?

WOW...

Stupid on steroids...

Do I need to type this slow for you?

Given the current state of little change, we are as close as this planet has come in a very long time. Our current crop of swings in temp and climate shift are well within the normal margins as seen in the paleo records.

Asteroid collisions, etc are external forcings which cause disruption but the planet always overcomes the disruption given enough time.

Please use your head for something more than a hat rack.

 

[Crick]

Billy Boy, I'm still waiting for an answer from you re the K-T Boundary event. What do you believe caused the extinction of the dinosaurs and what do you believe created the layer of iridium found worldwide with identical dating?

As for thermal equlibrium, care to justify your contention that no one system can overdrive any other in this regard? Specifically, how does the Earth go from full snowball to tropical climates at the poles under such a constraint?