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Climate change already playing out in West, report says | Deseret News

Climate change already playing out in West, report says

Change 'more dramatic' in winter than previously thought, ecologist says
By Amy Joi O'Donoghue , Deseret News

Published: Tuesday, Dec. 18 2012 6:10 p.m. MST



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Trees to be harvested are marked in blue in Wolf Creek Campground in the Uinta National Forest, July 13, 2012. (Ravell Call, Deseret News)
SALT LAKE CITY — A new report says the effects of climate change are already being felt in bug-infested forests of the Intermountain West, in reduced flows of the Colorado River basin and in the amount of snow that falls in the Rocky Mountains.
What is key, the report stresses, is how state and federal governments are responding and what land and natural resource conservation strategies can be embraced or expanded to counter the impacts.
"I think the bottom line is that these impacts are not going to happen 50 or 100 years from now," said Bruce Stein, director of climate change adaption with the National Wildlife Federation. "Many of them are already here, and we are going to have to be rethinking what we do to protect our wildlife and how we build and protect our communities."
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Joel Ferry stands on a section of his property where 300 cattle would normally be grazing but cannot due to the drought on Aug. 16, 2012. (Laura Seitz, Deseret News)
In addition to climate changes causing heat waves in the summer, the report highlights a surprise revelation that its biggest effect occurs in the winter months. Those warmer winters are enhancing pest outbreaks and accelerating the melting of snowpack each year, reducing the amount of water that's available later when needed.
The report, Impacts of Climate Change on Biodiversity, Ecoystems and Ecosystem Services, was peer-reviewed by the U.S. Geological Survey and drew on the expertise of 60 contributors from government agencies, universities and private, non-profit organizations such as The Nature Conservancy.
The report foreshadows the National Climate Assessment, a report done every four years for the U.S. president and Congress charting projections in global change for the next 25 to 100 years. Done by the U.S. Global Change Research Program, that report is anticipated to be released in draft form in January and available for public comment.
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The Utah Farm Bureau hosts a tour of the Uinta National Forest, July 13, 2012. (Ravell Call, Deseret News)
In a teleconference Tuesday highlighting key findings of the biodiversity report, moderator Mary Grimm said U.S. ecosystems are already undergoing "massive" transformations as the result of climate change.
"Ecological systems are already more stressed than at any comparable period in human history, said Grimm, a senior sustainability scientist at Arizona State University's Global Institute of Sustainability.
The report notes that forests are already responding to climate change, with longer growing seasons and warmer winters that enhance pest outbreaks such as rampant bark beetle infestations. Such attacks are leading to widespread die-offs of trees in forests, sparking increased risks for more severe and extensive fires.
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Dead and dying trees are visible in the Uinta National Forest, July 13, 2012. (Ravell Call, Deseret News)
"If trends continue," the report warned, "baseline tree mortality rates in western forests are projected to double every 17 to 29 years."
Peter Groffman, a microbial ecologist at the Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies in Millibrook, N.Y., said their research turned up a significant surprise — that climate change's impacts are playing out more dramatically in the winter than in other seasons.
While assumptions and most research bemoans climate change with its potential for arid heat waves in the summer, those increasing temperatures during the winter months have substantial consequences as well, Groffman said.
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Crews work to stop a wildfire burning Quail Canyon in Alpine Tuesday, July 3, 2012. (Scott G Winterton, Deseret News)
"Climate change is more dramatic in the winter than we thought," he said. "Those changes have effects on biodiversity and ecoystems in the growing season," and accelerate snowmelt and even changes in peak runoff, which can come earlier.
"In the Colorado River basin, water shortages are expected as a consequence of changes in snowmelt timing," the report notes. "Acceleration of the annual melting of snowpack may reduce water availability later in the summer when it is most needed, particularly in the more arid regions such as the western United States."
By 2050, climate change will triple the fraction of counties in the United States that are at high or extremely high risk of outstripping their water supplies, from 10 percent to 32 percent, the report notes, adding that the most at-risk areas in the United States are the West, Southwest and Great Plains regions.
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A helicopter dumps water on the Whiskey Springs Fire near Heber City Sunday, Aug. 19, 2012. (Jeffrey D. Allred, Deseret News)
Stein said water managers, particularly those in the Colorado River basin that includes Utah, are already responding to the threat of such shortages.
"'Water managers are planning their operations with climate in context, taking into account what is known as the 'new normal,'" he said. "Much of our water management was developed at a time when there was good supply of precipitation. Over the last 10 to 15 years, we can see that has changed. Along the Colorado, they are beginning to recalibrate their assumptions and accordingly recalibrate how they are managing the river and their allocations."
The study points to strides and real progress on the ground that demonstrates that government can be responsive and smart in the threat of climate change, and the public-private partnerships out there to curtail its range of potential consequences.
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This photo of the Quail Fire in Alpine was taken at 4 a.m. on Wednesday, July 4, 2012. (Dan Pearce, )
An example is a tree-thinning program instituted in Arizona, which experienced its largest wildfire on record in 2011. Still, the fire did not burn ridges where the thinning had happened. Such strategy invoked in advance of catastrophic wildfires can help reduce other threats, such as flash flooding that can imperil drinking water supplies, the report notes.
"The nexus of climate and forest fires is a flashpoint for several other degraded ecosystems such as water supply and water quality," the report said.
The report said that the federal government is beginning to take action by managing programs with climate change as a component.
Several states, too, have formal climate change adaptation programs on the books, and even those that don't are approaching the management of fish and wildlife with strategies that incorporate conservation in a broad sense, including habitat restoration and landscape connectivity.
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A cross-country skier moves through the fresh snow in Bountiful Sunday, Nov. 11, 2012. (Jeffrey D. Allred, Deseret News)
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Got any actual evidence that the climate change being described is caused my humans? How might it be distinguished from the climate change that has been happening since the beginning of the earth? Is there anything in that report, or any claim made by warmists that is unprecedented in the history of climate?
 
The OP just proves what a lousy land manager the government is.
 
The OP just proves what a lousy land manager the government is.

LOL, careful, sounds like you are advocating for the government to step up regulation and the prosecution of those who violate such regulations.
 
You should hope and pray for Climate Change...then you might have a chance to develop above the knuckle dragging level you've reached on the evolutionary tree.

Climate change may have driven evolution, scientists believe

Rapid climate change in Africa two million years ago may have driven human evolution, researchers believe. ...


Climate change may have driven evolution, scientists believe - Telegraph
 
You should hope and pray for Climate Change...then you might have a chance to develop above the knuckle dragging level you've reached on the evolutionary tree.

Climate change may have driven evolution, scientists believe

Rapid climate change in Africa two million years ago may have driven human evolution, researchers believe. ...


Climate change may have driven evolution, scientists believe - Telegraph

"Evolution" isn't going to do anything to help natural born retards like you.
 
Got any actual evidence that the climate change being described is caused my humans? How might it be distinguished from the climate change that has been happening since the beginning of the earth? Is there anything in that report, or any claim made by warmists that is unprecedented in the history of climate?

Well, we have added over 40% more CO2 to the atmosphere, and over 150% more CH4. As well as more nitrious oxides, and many more industrial chemicals for which there are no natural analogs. And we are now seeing changes that we have not seen before in recorded human history.

Well now, we are getting somewhere. Are there other times when there was a rapid rise in GHGs, and what was the effect? For the answers, in detail;

Methane catastrophe
 
You should hope and pray for Climate Change...then you might have a chance to develop above the knuckle dragging level you've reached on the evolutionary tree.

Climate change may have driven evolution, scientists believe

Rapid climate change in Africa two million years ago may have driven human evolution, researchers believe. ...

Climate change may have driven evolution, scientists believe - Telegraph

"Evolution" isn't going to do anything to help natural born retards like you.

Lowering yourself to the level of others will not raise them, or yourself, to a higher level. When they resort to such personal attacks they do nothing but lower the credibility of their own argument, and bait you to do the same.
 
Got any actual evidence that the climate change being described is caused my humans? How might it be distinguished from the climate change that has been happening since the beginning of the earth? Is there anything in that report, or any claim made by warmists that is unprecedented in the history of climate?

Well, we have added over 40% more CO2 to the atmosphere, and over 150% more CH4. As well as more nitrious oxides, and many more industrial chemicals for which there are no natural analogs. And we are now seeing changes that we have not seen before in recorded human history.

Well now, we are getting somewhere. Are there other times when there was a rapid rise in GHGs, and what was the effect? For the answers, in detail;

Methane catastrophe

There is a farting problem
 
Got any actual evidence that the climate change being described is caused my humans? How might it be distinguished from the climate change that has been happening since the beginning of the earth? Is there anything in that report, or any claim made by warmists that is unprecedented in the history of climate?

Well, we have added over 40% more CO2 to the atmosphere, and over 150% more CH4. As well as more nitrious oxides, and many more industrial chemicals for which there are no natural analogs. And we are now seeing changes that we have not seen before in recorded human history.

Well now, we are getting somewhere. Are there other times when there was a rapid rise in GHGs, and what was the effect? For the answers, in detail;

Methane catastrophe

Recorded human history.. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
 
Got any actual evidence that the climate change being described is caused my humans? How might it be distinguished from the climate change that has been happening since the beginning of the earth? Is there anything in that report, or any claim made by warmists that is unprecedented in the history of climate?

Well, we have added over 40% more CO2 to the atmosphere, and over 150% more CH4. As well as more nitrious oxides, and many more industrial chemicals for which there are no natural analogs. And we are now seeing changes that we have not seen before in recorded human history.

Well now, we are getting somewhere. Are there other times when there was a rapid rise in GHGs, and what was the effect? For the answers, in detail;

Methane catastrophe

There is a farting problem

My ass should be banned by the EPA.
 
Got any actual evidence that the climate change being described is caused my humans? How might it be distinguished from the climate change that has been happening since the beginning of the earth? Is there anything in that report, or any claim made by warmists that is unprecedented in the history of climate?

Well, we have added over 40% more CO2 to the atmosphere, and over 150% more CH4. As well as more nitrious oxides, and many more industrial chemicals for which there are no natural analogs. And we are now seeing changes that we have not seen before in recorded human history.

Well now, we are getting somewhere. Are there other times when there was a rapid rise in GHGs, and what was the effect? For the answers, in detail;

Methane catastrophe

Is there a single lab experiment you can point to that shows how a 40% increase in CO2 raises temperature?

Stop sniffing Nitrous, it does bad things to your thought processes.

How do you explain this meteoric, nearly instantaneous (geologically speaking) rise that occurred 14,000 years ago?

IceCores1.gif
 
Got any actual evidence that the climate change being described is caused my humans? How might it be distinguished from the climate change that has been happening since the beginning of the earth? Is there anything in that report, or any claim made by warmists that is unprecedented in the history of climate?

Well, we have added over 40% more CO2 to the atmosphere, and over 150% more CH4. As well as more nitrious oxides, and many more industrial chemicals for which there are no natural analogs. And we are now seeing changes that we have not seen before in recorded human history.

Well now, we are getting somewhere. Are there other times when there was a rapid rise in GHGs, and what was the effect? For the answers, in detail;

Methane catastrophe

Is there a single lab experiment you can point to that shows how a 40% increase in CO2 raises temperature?

Stop sniffing Nitrous, it does bad things to your thought processes.

How do you explain this meteoric, nearly instantaneous (geologically speaking) rise that occurred 14,000 years ago?

IceCores1.gif

They have been provided to you multiple times over the last few years, I'm not sure what is to be gained by presenting you with these same evidences over again. I even outlined the methodology that you could use to perform the experiments yourself and witness the difference with your own eyes and equipment and yet you refuse to conduct the experiment.

As for the graph, the rise you mention at 14,000 years ago, on your graph, looks like it started some 20,000 years ago and ended in the last couple of hundred years when it was overwhelmed by anthropogenic forcings that pushed the rise beyond the natural climate record peaks. This rise started as a part of the milankovitch cycle, but AGW has already doubled the forcing and rise in less than 200years. Our emissions are geometrically increasing and are currently doubling about every 1.5 decades

Looking at a graph that more accurately inputs current data, the picture becomes a bit more clear:

File:Co2-temperature-plot.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and for understanding, we can look at a graph that brings this latter period into sharper relief:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/800k-year-co2-concentration.gif

And this one looks at temperature with a focus on the last 200 years:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/global-temp-and-co2-1880-2009.gif
 
Well, we have added over 40% more CO2 to the atmosphere, and over 150% more CH4. As well as more nitrious oxides, and many more industrial chemicals for which there are no natural analogs. And we are now seeing changes that we have not seen before in recorded human history.

Well now, we are getting somewhere. Are there other times when there was a rapid rise in GHGs, and what was the effect? For the answers, in detail;

Methane catastrophe

Is there a single lab experiment you can point to that shows how a 40% increase in CO2 raises temperature?

Stop sniffing Nitrous, it does bad things to your thought processes.

How do you explain this meteoric, nearly instantaneous (geologically speaking) rise that occurred 14,000 years ago?

IceCores1.gif

They have been provided to you multiple times over the last few years, I'm not sure what is to be gained by presenting you with these same evidences over again. I even outlined the methodology that you could use to perform the experiments yourself and witness the difference with your own eyes and equipment and yet you refuse to conduct the experiment.

As for the graph, the rise you mention at 14,000 years ago, on your graph, looks like it started some 20,000 years ago and ended in the last couple of hundred years when it was overwhelmed by anthropogenic forcings that pushed the rise beyond the natural climate record peaks. This rise started as a part of the milankovitch cycle, but AGW has already doubled the forcing and rise in less than 200years. Our emissions are geometrically increasing and are currently doubling about every 1.5 decades

Looking at a graph that more accurately inputs current data, the picture becomes a bit more clear:

File:Co2-temperature-plot.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and for understanding, we can look at a graph that brings this latter period into sharper relief:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/800k-year-co2-concentration.gif

And this one looks at temperature with a focus on the last 200 years:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/global-temp-and-co2-1880-2009.gif

First, I noticed you did not include even a YouTube to your experiment, why is that? I will not do your work for you. It's your Failed Theory, you should have not one, but many experiment showing how this wisp of CO2 raises temperature and causes these imaginary "Forcings"

No one can look at that chart and see "ended in the last couple of hundred years when it was overwhelmed by anthropogenic forcings that pushed the rise beyond the natural climate record peaks" you're just totally making it up

Moreover, the chart completely demolishes the failed notion of "CO2 forcing". It never happens!
 
Well, we have added over 40% more CO2 to the atmosphere, and over 150% more CH4. As well as more nitrious oxides, and many more industrial chemicals for which there are no natural analogs. And we are now seeing changes that we have not seen before in recorded human history.

Well now, we are getting somewhere. Are there other times when there was a rapid rise in GHGs, and what was the effect? For the answers, in detail;

Methane catastrophe

Is there a single lab experiment you can point to that shows how a 40% increase in CO2 raises temperature?

Stop sniffing Nitrous, it does bad things to your thought processes.

How do you explain this meteoric, nearly instantaneous (geologically speaking) rise that occurred 14,000 years ago?

IceCores1.gif

They have been provided to you multiple times over the last few years, I'm not sure what is to be gained by presenting you with these same evidences over again. I even outlined the methodology that you could use to perform the experiments yourself and witness the difference with your own eyes and equipment and yet you refuse to conduct the experiment.

As for the graph, the rise you mention at 14,000 years ago, on your graph, looks like it started some 20,000 years ago and ended in the last couple of hundred years when it was overwhelmed by anthropogenic forcings that pushed the rise beyond the natural climate record peaks. This rise started as a part of the milankovitch cycle, but AGW has already doubled the forcing and rise in less than 200years. Our emissions are geometrically increasing and are currently doubling about every 1.5 decades

Looking at a graph that more accurately inputs current data, the picture becomes a bit more clear:

File:Co2-temperature-plot.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and for understanding, we can look at a graph that brings this latter period into sharper relief:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/800k-year-co2-concentration.gif

And this one looks at temperature with a focus on the last 200 years:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/global-temp-and-co2-1880-2009.gif

720px-Co2-temperature-plot.svg.png


Still no "CO2 forcing"

Completely made up fake phony concept
 
Well, we have added over 40% more CO2 to the atmosphere, and over 150% more CH4. As well as more nitrious oxides, and many more industrial chemicals for which there are no natural analogs. And we are now seeing changes that we have not seen before in recorded human history.

Well now, we are getting somewhere. Are there other times when there was a rapid rise in GHGs, and what was the effect? For the answers, in detail;

Methane catastrophe

Is there a single lab experiment you can point to that shows how a 40% increase in CO2 raises temperature?

Stop sniffing Nitrous, it does bad things to your thought processes.

How do you explain this meteoric, nearly instantaneous (geologically speaking) rise that occurred 14,000 years ago?

IceCores1.gif

They have been provided to you multiple times over the last few years, I'm not sure what is to be gained by presenting you with these same evidences over again. I even outlined the methodology that you could use to perform the experiments yourself and witness the difference with your own eyes and equipment and yet you refuse to conduct the experiment.

As for the graph, the rise you mention at 14,000 years ago, on your graph, looks like it started some 20,000 years ago and ended in the last couple of hundred years when it was overwhelmed by anthropogenic forcings that pushed the rise beyond the natural climate record peaks. This rise started as a part of the milankovitch cycle, but AGW has already doubled the forcing and rise in less than 200years. Our emissions are geometrically increasing and are currently doubling about every 1.5 decades

Looking at a graph that more accurately inputs current data, the picture becomes a bit more clear:

File:Co2-temperature-plot.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and for understanding, we can look at a graph that brings this latter period into sharper relief:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/800k-year-co2-concentration.gif

And this one looks at temperature with a focus on the last 200 years:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/global-temp-and-co2-1880-2009.gif

Bullshit discredited hockey stick graph

800k-year-co2-concentration.gif
 
Well, we have added over 40% more CO2 to the atmosphere, and over 150% more CH4. As well as more nitrious oxides, and many more industrial chemicals for which there are no natural analogs. And we are now seeing changes that we have not seen before in recorded human history.

Well now, we are getting somewhere. Are there other times when there was a rapid rise in GHGs, and what was the effect? For the answers, in detail;

Methane catastrophe

Is there a single lab experiment you can point to that shows how a 40% increase in CO2 raises temperature?

Stop sniffing Nitrous, it does bad things to your thought processes.

How do you explain this meteoric, nearly instantaneous (geologically speaking) rise that occurred 14,000 years ago?

IceCores1.gif

They have been provided to you multiple times over the last few years, I'm not sure what is to be gained by presenting you with these same evidences over again. I even outlined the methodology that you could use to perform the experiments yourself and witness the difference with your own eyes and equipment and yet you refuse to conduct the experiment.

As for the graph, the rise you mention at 14,000 years ago, on your graph, looks like it started some 20,000 years ago and ended in the last couple of hundred years when it was overwhelmed by anthropogenic forcings that pushed the rise beyond the natural climate record peaks. This rise started as a part of the milankovitch cycle, but AGW has already doubled the forcing and rise in less than 200years. Our emissions are geometrically increasing and are currently doubling about every 1.5 decades

Looking at a graph that more accurately inputs current data, the picture becomes a bit more clear:

File:Co2-temperature-plot.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and for understanding, we can look at a graph that brings this latter period into sharper relief:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/800k-year-co2-concentration.gif

And this one looks at temperature with a focus on the last 200 years:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/global-temp-and-co2-1880-2009.gif

420,000 year data > 120 year data set. Was that supposed to be a joke?

global-temp-and-co2-1880-2009.gif
 

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