Canada’s health care system

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    CANADA’S HEALTH CARE SYSTEM

    The poorest run system of all countries, still better than ours and most Canadians are satisfied with the care they receive even though Canada’s President of the Medical Association say it need improvement. If we had a HC system comparable to Canada it would be better than what we now have.
    Germany’s people pay 7.5% of their income for HC and it works to their satisfaction.
    All of the HC systems do not work the same and we should not lump then into one system. Certainly not use the poorest run system as an example. Which turns out better than what we have.
    Again, as usual, right wingers falsely use Canada’s HC system as a scare tactic to control people into opposing any healthcare plan by the present administration.
    There are not waits in Canada any longer than we have here with private HC.
    Services are not limited or spread thin.
    The rich, poor and elderly get the same quality of medical care. No death panels.
    Radical anti-Obama right wingers will use any means to get the people, even the uninsured, to oppose what they refer to as “Obamacare” as if Obama wrote the rules of the HC plan along with a few senators so know nothing of the medical system.
    Right wingers and their supporter will oppose anything the Obama administration attempt to do and want to take the country back hundreds of years. “Ain’t happening” We are moving forward with or without the radical white right wing racist. Town hall meeting, no matter were they are, are predominantly white.
    Even if we had a HC system comparable to Canada’s, the poorest run of all systems, it would still be better than what we, the greatest nation in the world, have now.

    Most of you cannot wait to put your parents in government rest homes and your mentally disabled into government run mental institutions or halfway houses.
    Those who oppose of Socialized medicine the strongest are on Welfare, Social Security, SSI, Medicare and Medicaid. "Thou doest protest to loudly"
     
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    Is there a record for the number of limp talking points and logical fallacies in one post?? :lol:
     
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    I think it was previously held by Chris.
     
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    I agree that there is a lot of misinformation spread by people with agendas, however, some of the points in the OP are problematic.

    First, there are wait times longer in Canada than in America. Generally, if you have a serious condition, i.e. cancer, heart attack, you are going to get to treatment pronto. But if it is not considered serious, i.e. lifestyle problems, then you are going to have to wait. My father had severe pinched nerves and carpal tunnel syndrome, and had to wait nearly a year to see a neurologist. My grandfather who had had a history of cancer, and who moved from Saskatchewan to BC, had to wait five months to see an oncologist (he was cancer free at the time), because there is a three month residency wait in BC before you can see a specialist. And then, he would have had to have waited longer had my father not known the oncologist, who was in his Rotary club, and was able to jump the queue.

    Services have been spread thin. Generally, innovations are slower to get to Canada. A friend of mine had cancer but was not able to be treated with Avastin because it was not yet available in the country but was available in the US. It used to take months to get an MRI. A decade ago, Taxol was rationed in Manitoba.

    Generally, Canadians are happy with their system. And there is no doubt, listening to the debate down here by the people who oppose reform is amusing. However, there is political spin on both sides, and people have to be informed of the potential problems to make intelligent decisions.
     
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    Remind me again, which country did ailing multimillionaire Ted Kennedy go to for treatment? Was it Canada?

    He supposedly dedicated his live to health care so his choice when it came to his own treatment speaks volumes, no?
     
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    Ambulance service is not provided by the Canadian System to get patients to the hospital for treatment in an emergency; even for those with heart attacks or for pregnant women in labor - [/paraphrase] By Dr. Brian Day former President of Canada's Medical Association in an interview by Bill O'Reilly
     
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    Really?

    So why didn't Ted Kennedy go North or to Europe for treatment? Why do Canadians come down to Buffalo, NY for treatment?

    What prevents you from from becoming a Canuck?
     
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    The Kennedy example is a smelly red herring.

    Do not let the stoopidcons confuse here accessibility with quality.

    Candians live longer than we do, they live healthier than we do.

    And obviously as a people they are smarter than us here.

    Think not? Read Crusader's, Dive's, and Elvis's upcoming stupidities.
     
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    Why would Kennedy go to Canada for end of life treatment? Virtually no Canadians come to America for end of life treatment.
     
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    Smelly red herring?!? Or a Stake to the Heart of Obama's Hellcare?


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