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Oy. Let's try this one last time:
If you have a public entity that caps its executive salaries, they will not be able to compete effectively for top managerial talent against private entities that can pay whatever they want. That is assuming the caps are below the "market rate" for such talent. If they arent below that market rate, then what is the point of having them?
I think your understanding of the job market and executive pay is the thing you were sold a bill of goods on. Executives at that level are under tremendous stress and basically have no lives. They are interested in making as much money as possible. If they weren't they would go into government. And the best execs also produce the best results for their companies, and so are well worth their salaries.
But you haven't answered the objection that a public entity still has to contend with the statistical realities of insurance.
I disagree with you....you have been sold a bill of goods....there are plenty of QUALIFIED ceo's out there that could whoop that ceo making 100 million a year's butt and then wipe the floor with it.... the ONLY reason is because the boaqrds and ceo's are in cahoots together...board members are just CEO's from other companies whose business does not conflict...they all run in the same circles and they are the ones who did THIS...make it where ceo's get so much more of the pie than previously when they were making 100 or 200 times the average worker to now nearing 400 times the average worker.
Goood smart people who are not greedy are out there to be had.....more transparency in the hiring practice to the shareholders and disclosure of deals to them might actually curb the board or some sort of rules put on to the board to prevent them from giving their ceo buddies the world and more on compensation and exit deals....
Shareholders are clueless on what is being stolen from them, and the ones in the know, are just ignored.....until something bad happens...
all the shareholders in 401k's are more than likely not the ones paying attention but the ones that rely on their fund managers....they are being ripped off imo, by these huge salaries...no where in the EU would they get their salaries or in Australia...
There is always a limit to what one should pay for any position and not just lower level employees, but every position....including the CEO.
Harry, if we could lock out Libs every time they were proved to be wrong we'd have gulags of these suckers in Kansas somewhere.
The Libs have been wrong about every issue from Communism in the 1930s to Great Society programs in the 1960s to Soviet intentions in the 1980s up to the present day. A more failed record it would be hard to produce. And yet they show no shame, no remorse, and certainly no admission of wrong. Instead they blame someone else.
the ceo's of each plan will get their millions, but with the public insurance plan i envision the ceo salaries not being as lucrative, like NO $200 MILLION A YEAR in salary for one person, but maybe $2 million or $5 million a year salary....
The far rightoids continue to believe in a world that does not exist.
The health insurance bill is going to pass. Eventually a public option will come into play. Based on the European models (which we, with American ingenuity, will certainly improve), our health rates will improve drastically and our costs will go down.
The health insurance industry has already proved that it only works for itself, not for the American citizen. Rightoids, we are not going back to your pretend world. That was decided last fall and will reaffirmed next fall.
The far rightoids continue to believe in a world that does not exist.
The health insurance bill is going to pass. Eventually a public option will come into play. Based on the European models (which we, with American ingenuity, will certainly improve), our health rates will improve drastically and our costs will go down.
The health insurance industry has already proved that it only works for itself, not for the American citizen. Rightoids, we are not going back to your pretend world. That was decided last fall and will reaffirmed next fall.
The far rightoids continue to believe in a world that does not exist.
The health insurance bill is going to pass. Eventually a public option will come into play. Based on the European models (which we, with American ingenuity, will certainly improve), our health rates will improve drastically and our costs will go down.
The health insurance industry has already proved that it only works for itself, not for the American citizen. Rightoids, we are not going back to your pretend world. That was decided last fall and will reaffirmed next fall.
so the world that Pelosi and Reid live in is real?.....
I am curious for the people that can afford health care insurance now and do not buy it. If the Public option comes into play, will people really jump on it and pay the premiums for it? For those that cannot afford it now but want it, I can see why they would get it; but then again they would still have to pay premiums to be able to get it albeit at a reduced cost. Looking at insurance for vehicles and how many people do not have it, how can the government guarentee that people will pay their premiums for it to work.
I do think alot of people automaticly assume that the public option means free health care. most of the uninformed probably think that, I also heard that they would fine people that do not get health care, there is alot of assumption going on in the government, if they fine people for not getting insurance how are they going to pay for that as well as the premuims for health insurance.
in a perfect world it would work, but there are alot of people that will not buy it "deadbeats" or do not even know they have to buy it. are they going to offer classes to those people that do not understand it or will it all be controlled by some bureaucrats and who will enforce the fines?
I could be all wrong about this and everyone will jump on it but I still do not think they will get the people to pay for it. and on top of that have they actually coem up with how much the premuims will be anyway?
I mean there are alot of folks that do not pay their child support/auto insurance and parking tickets/speeding tickets and numerous other things. I am sick of the debate about it but looking at how people sometimes are it is hard for me to believe this is going to be all that they say it is going to be.
The far rightoids continue to believe in a world that does not exist.
The health insurance bill is going to pass. Eventually a public option will come into play. Based on the European models (which we, with American ingenuity, will certainly improve), our health rates will improve drastically and our costs will go down.
The health insurance industry has already proved that it only works for itself, not for the American citizen. Rightoids, we are not going back to your pretend world. That was decided last fall and will reaffirmed next fall.
There will be no public option, nor a national health plan. Only idiots would want to give that sort of control to fed, higher taxes with less coverage. Not happening.
The far rightoids continue to believe in a world that does not exist.
The health insurance bill is going to pass. Eventually a public option will come into play. Based on the European models (which we, with American ingenuity, will certainly improve), our health rates will improve drastically and our costs will go down.
The health insurance industry has already proved that it only works for itself, not for the American citizen. Rightoids, we are not going back to your pretend world. That was decided last fall and will reaffirmed next fall.
There will be no public option, nor a national health plan. Only idiots would want to give that sort of control to fed, higher taxes with less coverage. Not happening.
Proof that you are living in a delusional world. When it passes, I will remind you of your statement. Guaranteed.
The vast, overwhelming majority of Americans find the idea of universal healthcare by force, an abomination. They hate Obama, but moreso the Democrats in Congress that want to back his idiotic program.
The vast, overwhelming majority of Americans find the idea of universal healthcare by force, an abomination. They hate Obama, but moreso the Democrats in Congress that want to back his idiotic program.
This comments reminds me of Bush saying that "By Far the Vast Majority of My Tax Cuts Go to Those at the Bottom"...
Where do you get yours stats?
Cool, two less greedy doctors.I have recently talked to two general practice physicians, one late 40's the other mid 50's, both stated they would retire early or go into another professions should the government get that involved. Now you add an additional 40 million people to the health care system and you have some 50% of physicians, by an IBD poll, that state that they will retire early or quit all together, where is anyone going to go for health care. Just hope you don't end up getting in a serious car accident, because you might just end up in a hospital that doesn't have any doctors present to save your life.
Exclusive: Pelosi lacks votes for most sweeping public option - Yahoo! NewsSpeaker Nancy Pelosi counted votes Thursday night and determined she could not pass a robust public option the most aggressive of the three forms of a public option House Democrats have been considering as part of a national overhaul of health care.
the insurance industry comes to $235 billion a year...
ALL OF THAT is money that is middle man money, money spent on NOTHING TO DO WITH health care SERVICES RENDERED....just for paper pushers...THAT'S 20% of what we collect for our entire nation in income taxes a year....just to put it in to perspective...and to show the money down the drain that could be saved or used to improve all of our actual health CARE needs.
