judyd
Active Member
Death panels are not a hoax. Their absence is a trap for the credulous. The way the system is set, there must inevitably be death panels because care will eventually have to be rationed. It is pure economics 101: set the cost below market and you create shortages. The shortages must be adjudicated in the same way the pricing mechanism would have done so. Here, there will be a bunch of bureaucrats making the decision instead of the marketplace.
Insurance is not socialism. It is the opposite in fact. Socialism is not egalitarian either, despite whatever rhetoric the communists are using these days.
Whenever this type of thing has been tried, the costs skyrocket and quality stinks. This has been shown over and over and is supported by the economics of it.
Lies, all lies.
Every other industrialized nation in the world has national health insurance, and they pay HALF per capita what we pay for healthcare.
And they get about a tenth of the quality of care when they get sick.
No thanks, I'll stick to our present system.
That is where you're wrong. You must not have had a serious operation in the US, or had your elderly parent in the hospital if you think there is no problem in the US and we have the best treatment. WE DON'T!!! The insurance companies dictate to the hospitals in the US what can be done or not done for patients--if the hospitals want them to pay them, that is. It's pretty harsh.
And how about pre-existing conditions which don't get paid for in the US? Many people are afraid to change jobs because they won't be able to get insurance again. So they are stuck in deadend jobs.
People in other countries think the US system is insane and rightly so. Why should employers have to be involved in our healthcare? Why are we paying ridiculous rates for pharmaceutical products?
I would love to have the healthcare system they have in most European countries.