Campaign Fiance Reform

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    Was talking with Wrycatcher about this in a sports thread of all places. Right now, I think it's ridiculous; anybody can secretly spend money to elect anybody, that's really crazy. Freedom of speech guarantees that anyone can support any campaign, which is fine. But it seems to me that before any tv ad is run or money accepted that the campaign it is for should have a veto over it. If they approve the ad or accept the money, then that decision should be made public somewhere. Periodically a list of the top donors would be publicized so people know who's getting what from whom.

    If it was me I'd have an independent organization through which evey penny must flow before a campaign receives it. The donor and amount is logged, and publicized if over a certain amount, say $5000 or whatever. If the donor is undetermined, the money goes into a pot to be shared with every serious candidate. The organization would be funded by one penny out of very dollar contributed to any campaign or in a tax return where you put a dollar of your taxes to political campaigns. And here's the kicker, violators get fined at least twice the amount that was spent or contributed AND they spend time in jail. While the politician may not be aware, he/she should be; so while I wouldn't put 'em jail unless it can be proved they had a hand in it, I would not allow them to run for office for the next 10 years or so.
     
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    Campaign finance is now a matter of who has the money to buy the best for the buyer candidate, period.

    I see only one fair way.

    Give each viable candidate for each office one amount of money to spend on a campaign. Take it from tax money, but no other money is allowed.

    Let them do what they can with it.

    The people pay, the people get the candidates they want.

    Stop corporate payoffs buying our rulers, ALL of them.
     
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    Let him present the ring first.

    Oh, you meant "finance" reform.

    Get rid of every restriction but make sure every contribution is disclosed by source within 72 hours.
     
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    Sorry, fat fingered it. Fixed it. Uh, maybe.
     
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    Direct contributions to campaigns is no longer the big problem here, that money is limited and reported by law as always, it is the so called advocacy ads. If you want to spend money to support or smear a candidate on policy issues, as long as it is not directly connected with the campaign, you can anonymously spend as much as you want even if you happen to be a foreigner. This is the new wave of dirty money in politics and according to the SCOTUS we have no right to know who spent or to hold them accountable for any "exaggeration".
     
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    Where did you get that idea? Rachel Maddow?

    That is already the law.
     
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    This is completely false.

    Those organizations also have to disclose their donors.
     
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    Really? So where do I go to find out who's paying for all the attack ads paid for by a super PAC? Where do I go to see who's giving big bucks to a particular candidate?
     
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    OpenSecrets.org: Money in Politics -- See Who's Giving & Who's Getting

    You're welcome.
     

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