Calling each other Nazis, Hitler

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What Does It Really Mean When Politicians and Pundits Cry ?Nazi?? | Vanity Fair

It is hard to fully comprehend the magnitude of the Nazi death camps and their impact on the lives of untold millions. But, even so, there are a few things I can say for certain: the Nazis, and the Holocaust they brought were nothing like Obamacare. Or the national debt. Or political correctness. Or criticism of economic inequality. Or the Tea Party. Or the Internal Revenue Service. Or the Obama administration. Or the Bush administration. Or any of the other masses of infinitesimal flotsam spewed up in self-pitying and hysterical analogies by vulgarians with more mouth than brain.

And, damn it, how dare so many of you politicians and political commentators and entertainers spit on the ashes of the earth containing the bodies of millions of the slaughtered, by making such asinine comparisons. How dare you belittle unspeakable suffering, how dare you brush aside the emotional torment of survivors, how dare you feed into the Holocaust denialism by pretending that some difference in political opinions is just as bad as the literal torture and destruction of millions of families.

How dare you?

Ben Carson, current darling of the Republican Party whose name is touted as a potential presidential candidate: You compared your feeling of being stifled by “political correctness” to the torment and murder of 13-year-old Sochi Piaskovski and millions of other children. (The American government and its institutions are “very much like Nazi Germany. . . . We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe.”) I will assume that, after you made those comments, the Obama administration responded by descending upon you, loading you and your family onto a train, and stuffing you into a gas chamber.

No? Then shut up.

Tom Perkins, multi-millionaire venture capitalist: You compared liberal criticism of income inequality and the excesses of the überwealthy to the slaughter of Jakub Piaskovski’s entire family. (“I would call attention to the parallels of fascist Nazi Germany to its war on its ‘1 percent,’ namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American 1 percent, namely the ‘rich.’”) I will assume that the tortured and tormented corpses of every member of your family have been burned to ash by progressives, and that you have not had a good night’s sleep for most of your life because of the guilt you feel for surviving.

No? Then shut up.

Ted Nugent, aging rock star, gun enthusiast, conservative spokesman: You compared Obamacare to the beginnings of Nazi Germany. I will assume you mean that you are now preparing to tear out your fillings in hopes of saving a family member while you are imprisoned, starving, cold, and awaiting your death.

No? Then shut up.

Yes, all of you. Shut up, and apologize for demeaning one of history’s most unspeakable crimes. I mean you, Ted Cruz, Republican senator who proclaimed that fighting to defund Obamacare is like fighting to stop the Nazis. And you, Tim Donnelly, Republican candidate for California governor who likened Obama to Hitler because of gun control. And you, Rick Santorum, former GOP senator and presidential candidate who said that failing to fight against Obama’s reelection was like failing to fight Hitler in 1940; he later justified the statement by saying he has used the World War II metaphor “a hundred times.” And you, Bill O’Reilly, political commentator who said the Huffington Post used Nazi tactics and that liberal supporters of gun control embraced the sort of “state control” established by Hitler. And you, Stephen Schwarzman, billionaire co-founder of the Blackstone Group, who proclaimed that some of Obama’s tax proposals were a declaration of war, like “when Hitler invaded Poland.” And you, George W. Bush, whose campaign went all out with the Nazi analogy by releasing a video showing John Kerry, Al Gore, Howard Dean and other Democratic Party luminaries intercut with images of Hitler. And you, Wayne LaPierre, head of the NRA who has used Nazi comparisons to keep gun owners frightened and has even raised the prospect that they may face mass execution. And you, Glenn Beck, who has compared so many people and circumstances to Nazi Germany so many times that the great comedian Lewis Black proclaimed l that Beck suffers from “Nazi Tourette’s.”

And don’t think that the political right has a monopoly on this abominable behavior. So yes, I mean you, Representative Keith Ellison, Democratic congressman who equated [then-President] Bush after 9/11 with Hitler after the destruction of the Reichstag, the German parliament. Or you, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who accused Republicans of using Nazi tactics during the 2004 presidential campaign. Or you, Linda Ronstadt, the singer who said in 2004 that newly elected Republicans were “a new bunch of Hitlers.” And you, Joy Behar, television personality who compared former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to Hitler.


Right or left, Republican or Democrat - Can't we ALL demand that politicians, pundits and EACH OTHER stop this??

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As long as some people give the word power, then other people will continue to use it...the dark side of human nature.
 
The more its used, the less it means and that it demeans the experience of the Holocaust.
 
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What Does It Really Mean When Politicians and Pundits Cry ?Nazi?? | Vanity Fair

It is hard to fully comprehend the magnitude of the Nazi death camps and their impact on the lives of untold millions. But, even so, there are a few things I can say for certain: the Nazis, and the Holocaust they brought were nothing like Obamacare. Or the national debt. Or political correctness. Or criticism of economic inequality. Or the Tea Party. Or the Internal Revenue Service. Or the Obama administration. Or the Bush administration. Or any of the other masses of infinitesimal flotsam spewed up in self-pitying and hysterical analogies by vulgarians with more mouth than brain.

And, damn it, how dare so many of you politicians and political commentators and entertainers spit on the ashes of the earth containing the bodies of millions of the slaughtered, by making such asinine comparisons. How dare you belittle unspeakable suffering, how dare you brush aside the emotional torment of survivors, how dare you feed into the Holocaust denialism by pretending that some difference in political opinions is just as bad as the literal torture and destruction of millions of families.

How dare you?

Ben Carson, current darling of the Republican Party whose name is touted as a potential presidential candidate: You compared your feeling of being stifled by “political correctness” to the torment and murder of 13-year-old Sochi Piaskovski and millions of other children. (The American government and its institutions are “very much like Nazi Germany. . . . We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe.”) I will assume that, after you made those comments, the Obama administration responded by descending upon you, loading you and your family onto a train, and stuffing you into a gas chamber.

No? Then shut up.

Tom Perkins, multi-millionaire venture capitalist: You compared liberal criticism of income inequality and the excesses of the überwealthy to the slaughter of Jakub Piaskovski’s entire family. (“I would call attention to the parallels of fascist Nazi Germany to its war on its ‘1 percent,’ namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American 1 percent, namely the ‘rich.’”) I will assume that the tortured and tormented corpses of every member of your family have been burned to ash by progressives, and that you have not had a good night’s sleep for most of your life because of the guilt you feel for surviving.

No? Then shut up.

Ted Nugent, aging rock star, gun enthusiast, conservative spokesman: You compared Obamacare to the beginnings of Nazi Germany. I will assume you mean that you are now preparing to tear out your fillings in hopes of saving a family member while you are imprisoned, starving, cold, and awaiting your death.

No? Then shut up.

Yes, all of you. Shut up, and apologize for demeaning one of history’s most unspeakable crimes. I mean you, Ted Cruz, Republican senator who proclaimed that fighting to defund Obamacare is like fighting to stop the Nazis. And you, Tim Donnelly, Republican candidate for California governor who likened Obama to Hitler because of gun control. And you, Rick Santorum, former GOP senator and presidential candidate who said that failing to fight against Obama’s reelection was like failing to fight Hitler in 1940; he later justified the statement by saying he has used the World War II metaphor “a hundred times.” And you, Bill O’Reilly, political commentator who said the Huffington Post used Nazi tactics and that liberal supporters of gun control embraced the sort of “state control” established by Hitler. And you, Stephen Schwarzman, billionaire co-founder of the Blackstone Group, who proclaimed that some of Obama’s tax proposals were a declaration of war, like “when Hitler invaded Poland.” And you, George W. Bush, whose campaign went all out with the Nazi analogy by releasing a video showing John Kerry, Al Gore, Howard Dean and other Democratic Party luminaries intercut with images of Hitler. And you, Wayne LaPierre, head of the NRA who has used Nazi comparisons to keep gun owners frightened and has even raised the prospect that they may face mass execution. And you, Glenn Beck, who has compared so many people and circumstances to Nazi Germany so many times that the great comedian Lewis Black proclaimed l that Beck suffers from “Nazi Tourette’s.”

And don’t think that the political right has a monopoly on this abominable behavior. So yes, I mean you, Representative Keith Ellison, Democratic congressman who equated [then-President] Bush after 9/11 with Hitler after the destruction of the Reichstag, the German parliament. Or you, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who accused Republicans of using Nazi tactics during the 2004 presidential campaign. Or you, Linda Ronstadt, the singer who said in 2004 that newly elected Republicans were “a new bunch of Hitlers.” And you, Joy Behar, television personality who compared former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to Hitler.


Right or left, Republican or Democrat - Can't we ALL demand that politicians, pundits and EACH OTHER stop this??

:mad:

Using this word (and others) is a strategy used by groups to scare people into receiving their message as their own........

In reality, Factual information should inspire people, not a word.

I would agree that this is the most mis-used term in politics. Behind it is "Communitsts and Socialists" The people who repeat these terms almost ALWAYS don't know their definition. They just know that Fox News said them.
 
Having family that is Nazi...................that's pretty Nazi........Or was it family?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shYcnoe06G0]NCF: The Bush Nazi connection. - YouTube[/ame]

The point is that nothing get's more close to Nazi's than the people who traded with Nazi's. And this DID NOT make them Nazi's, just profit driven..
 
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You do realise that there's nothing 'wrong' with being a Nazi, don't you? Overall, communist leaders have committed far greater crimes against humanity than the Third Reich, yet, for some reason, those who openly sympathise with communist/socialist ideology never attract the same level of scorn than those who agree with Nazi policies. Either way, until you start harming people based on their religion, race or handicap(s), you should - ideally - be free to Seig Heil to your heart's content; in spite of the stigma that's been attached to the Roman salute.
 
The more its used, the less it means and that it demeans the experience of the Holocaust.


Yes.

Precisely the same problem I have with the constant screaming of the word "racist".

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But, you just don't understand. They (the author of the article and the OP) aren't talking about the words they use to describe you. You clearly are racist and homophobic, because you are either white and/or conservative. They're not talking about those words silly head. Just the words you use on them that they do not like.

Got it?
 
Having family that is Nazi...................that's pretty Nazi........Or was it family?

NCF: The Bush Nazi connection. - YouTube

The point is that nothing get's more close to Nazi's than the people who traded with Nazi's. And this DID NOT make them Nazi's, just profit driven..



actually nothing gets closer to NAZIS than Hitlers own words showing adimiration for the American PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT


NAZI: German acronym- National SOCIALIST WORKER'S PARTY
 
The more its used, the less it means and that it demeans the experience of the Holocaust.


Yes.

Precisely the same problem I have with the constant screaming of the word "racist".

.

But, you just don't understand. They (the author of the article and the OP) aren't talking about the words they use to describe you. You clearly are racist and homophobic, because you are either white and/or conservative. They're not talking about those words silly head. Just the words you use on them that they do not like.

Got it?


Garsh, I hope I didn't "offend" anyone!

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No one owns a word. No one group of people own a word. No sliver in time owns a word. The author of the Vanity Fair piece is a fool to think so.

Here is the definition of Nazi. I cannot see one example in the Vanity Fair piece where the use of the word Nazi is used inappropriately.


Na·zi
[naht-see, nat-] Show IPA
noun, plural Na·zis.
1.
a member of the National Socialist German Workers' party of Germany, which in 1933, under Adolf Hitler, seized political control of the country, suppressing all opposition and establishing a dictatorship over all cultural, economic, and political activities of the people, and promulgated belief in the supremacy of Hitler as Führer, aggressive anti-Semitism, the natural supremacy of the German people, and the establishment of Germany by superior force as a dominant world power. The party was officially abolished in 1945 at the conclusion of World War II.
2.
( often lowercase ) a person elsewhere who holds similar views.
3.
Sometimes Offensive. ( often lowercase ) a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to control a specified activity, practice, etc.: a jazz nazi who disdains other forms of music; tobacco nazis trying to ban smoking.


And please note the origin of the word Nazi.

Word Origin & History

Nazi
1930, from Ger. Nazi, abbreviation of Ger. pronunciation of Nationalsozialist (based on earlier Ger. sozi, popular abbreviaton of "socialist"), from Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei "National Socialist German Workers' Party," led by Hitler from 1920. The 24th edition of Etymologisches Wörterbuch


Nazi | Define Nazi at Dictionary.com
 
This fool of an author skewers any semblance of logic to leap from the proper use of the word nazi in a sentence to blame the users as some how denigrating the Holocaust in the most bizarre way.

And it is wrong.
 
The more its used, the less it means and that it demeans the experience of the Holocaust.


Yes.

Precisely the same problem I have with the constant screaming of the word "racist".

.

But, you just don't understand. They (the author of the article and the OP) aren't talking about the words they use to describe you. You clearly are racist and homophobic, because you are either white and/or conservative. They're not talking about those words silly head. Just the words you use on them that they do not like.

Got it?

That's an easy out. I've said the same thing about "communist", "socialist" and a whole bunch of other "ists", including "racist".

How about if we use facts as a basis for namecalling?

IOW, if one says something that is racist, they should be called out for that.

But, just because one does not like what someone says, that does not mean they are CommieNaziRacistSocialistFascist.
 

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