California Gov. Brown signs law allowing illegal aliens to attend college.

[Trajan]

This bill makes no sense, can I go to college for free in Mexico?

theres a link here? where?

Gov. Brown Signs Calif. DREAM Act for Undocumented Students, Christian News

thank you.

from the link;

AB 130 allows undocumented students attending California state universities to apply for financial aid funded by the private sector. Previously, there were three attempts to pass bills similar to AB 130 but they all failed. The bill becomes active January 1, 2012.

what does that mean,exactly? how would it work? so these 'private' entities are who, exactly? will they be told they have a quota , that there is a set number of illegal aliens that they must give aid to? I was under the impression that was illegal?


the UC system is jacking out of state tuition and giving more slots to out of staters because they pay more, lowering there by the number of in state student slots. the UC system is grossly underfunded, they are laying folks off left and right, so I guess on one hand they don't care if Private entities give anyone money as long as they can attend BUT at the end of the day illegal aliens will be taking slots that have already been crunched for in state students citizens whose families pay CA state taxes etc.

this state is such a mess, unreal.

 

[westwall]

This is the reason Gov. Brown is wrong for california. Illegal aliens do not have any right to go to our colleges at our expense. They do not even pay taxes. Shows how stupid the left is.

Shows how stupid the right is. Undocumented immigrants pay taxes, but they don't get the same refunds and Social Security benefits that you do.

Actually they pay very little in taxes that's why illegals are a net drain on our economy. I believe CA spends almost 10 billion on illegals.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is the reason Gov. Brown is wrong for california. Illegal aliens do not have any right to go to our colleges at our expense. They do not even pay taxes. Shows how stupid the left is.

No, they understand the law and obey the Constitution:

The District Court held that illegal aliens were entitled to the protection of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that § 21.031 violated that Clause. Suggesting that

the state's exclusion of undocumented children from its public schools . . . may well be the type of invidiously motivated state action for which the suspect classification doctrine was designed,

the court held that it was unnecessary to decide whether the statute would survive a "strict scrutiny" analysis because, in any event, the discrimination embodied in the statute was not supported by a rational basis. Id. at 585. The District Court also concluded that the Texas statute violated the Supremacy Clause. [n5] Id. at 590-592.

Plyler v Doe (1982)

Plyler v. Doe

In addition, per Weber v. Aetna Casualty & Surety Co. (1972), it’s un-Constitutional to punish children for the illegal acts or other misdeeds of their parents.

Indeed, had Brown not signed the legislation, the state would be subject to a lawsuit it would most certainly lose.

Moreover, in addition to legal doctrine, this program makes good long-term economic sense – as these students were brought to the United States as children, many before the age of reason, it would be impossible to return them to their ‘native’ countries. They’re here to stay, they’re not going anywhere. Consequently it’s wise to provide such students an education so they might make a positive contribution to the state and Nation when adults.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Save your collective outrage on something you understand. In my never ending effort to educate the ignorant, I offer:

"Immigratioin: Private-Scholarship Dream Act Bill signed" (San Francisco Chronicle, July 26, 2011)

"Undocumented immigrants who attend California Universities and Colleges will have greater access to privately funded scholarships after Gov. Brown on Monday sighed into law a portion of what is known as the Dream Act...the state Dream Act dow not provide a path to citizenship.

"The students who are newly eligible are enrolled in the CA higher education system attended at least three years of high school in the state, not all are undocumented...at UC officials estimated there are as many as 642 undocumented students enrolled at the 10 campuses and about 80 would qualify for private scholarships...235,000 students attend school in the UC system"

 

[ShackledNation]

It is times like this when I seriously consider moving out of California.

 

[whitehall]

Geez what does it take for a state to come to it's senses? Does the peoples republik of California think the rest of the Country is going to support their bong numbed governor's agenda? Ship a bunch of illegals to any other country in the world and they might find that they spend a couple of years behind bars if they are lucky.

 

[CitizenPained]

California isn't the first. CT, NM, and others. I hope CO is next.

 

[ShackledNation]

California isn't the first. CT, NM, and others. I hope CO is next.

I get wanting to help these people become citizens. But giving non citizens educational benefits? It defeats the purpose of citizenship. Its freeriding.

 

[Patrick2]

This is the reason Gov. Brown is wrong for california. Illegal aliens do not have any right to go to our colleges at our expense. They do not even pay taxes. Shows how stupid the left is.

Oh dear. I sincerely hope that America isn't following Europe down the liberals' socialist toilet. Honestly, why can't you just deport illegal border jumpers at gunpoint?!

Your error is you that you appear to be assuming the US leftwing is sane.

 

[Patrick2]

This is the reason Gov. Brown is wrong for california. Illegal aliens do not have any right to go to our colleges at our expense. They do not even pay taxes. Shows how stupid the left is.

Shows how stupid the right is. Undocumented immigrants pay taxes, but they don't get the same refunds and Social Security benefits that you do.

Every time you open your mouth on this issue, it just shows you're a clueless moron. Come out here and I'll SHOW YOU them getting paid in cash.

 

[Patrick2]

theres a link here? where?

Gov. Brown Signs Calif. DREAM Act for Undocumented Students, Christian News

thank you.

from the link;

AB 130 allows undocumented students attending California state universities to apply for financial aid funded by the private sector. Previously, there were three attempts to pass bills similar to AB 130 but they all failed. The bill becomes active January 1, 2012.

what does that mean,exactly? how would it work? so these 'private' entities are who, exactly? will they be told they have a quota , that there is a set number of illegal aliens that they must give aid to? I was under the impression that was illegal?


the UC system is jacking out of state tuition and giving more slots to out of staters because they pay more, lowering there by the number of in state student slots. the UC system is grossly underfunded, they are laying folks off left and right, so I guess on one hand they don't care if Private entities give anyone money as long as they can attend BUT at the end of the day illegal aliens will be taking slots that have already been crunched for in state students citizens whose families pay CA state taxes etc.

this state is such a mess, unreal.

Besides out of state americans paying LOTS more for tuition, those mysterious private entities undoubtedly get a tax break on their aid to the illegal alien invaders, meaning in effect other taxpayers are subsidizing the illegals' college education.

 

[Kiki Cannoli]

It is simple. If you do not live in California it is none of your business. If you do and disagree, vote accordingly.

 

[Againsheila]

California isn't the first. CT, NM, and others. I hope CO is next.

These same states don't give instate tuition to our military who grew up in those states and then left for more than a year to serve their country. What an injustice. You should be ashamed of yourself, wanting rights granted to illegals that aren't even granted to our service men and women.

 

[Againsheila]

It is simple. If you do not live in California it is none of your business. If you do and disagree, vote accordingly.

It's simple. California is part of the United States of America and as such is the concern of ALL Americans.

 

[Rozman]

I posted the link when I saw him propose this during his campaign for Gov...And I was called a liar by the usual crowd here....

The left will spend us out of existance...

 

[Wolfmoon]

This is the reason Gov. Brown is wrong for california. Illegal aliens do not have any right to go to our colleges at our expense. They do not even pay taxes. Shows how stupid the left is.

Shows how stupid the right is. Undocumented immigrants pay taxes, but they don't get the same refunds and Social Security benefits that you do.

U.S. households headed by illegal aliens used $26.3 billion in government services during 2002, but paid $16 billion in taxes, an annual cost to taxpayers of $10 billion. It's reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/dec/06/20041206-102115-6766r/

In 2007 one illegal alien family, costs the U.S. taxpayers more than $32,000 in federal, state and local benefits each year. That same family contributes an average of $9,000 a year in taxes, resulting in a net tax burden of $22,449 each year. If the lower figure of 12 million illegal aliens is used for estimation purposes, the total tax burden translates to $2.2 trillion per year.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55135

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It is times like this when I seriously consider moving out of California.

Consider? I'd think the choice would be obvious. That state is one big clusterfuck of insanity. You couldn't pay me enough to live there.

 

[AmericanFirst]

This is the reason Gov. Brown is wrong for california. Illegal aliens do not have any right to go to our colleges at our expense. They do not even pay taxes. Shows how stupid the left is.

Shows how stupid the right is. Undocumented immigrants pay taxes, but they don't get the same refunds and Social Security benefits that you do.

The LEFT are the stupid ones, they prove it all the time by opening their mouths. How do illegals pay taxes?

 

[AmericanFirst]

This is the reason Gov. Brown is wrong for california. Illegal aliens do not have any right to go to our colleges at our expense. They do not even pay taxes. Shows how stupid the left is.

Shows how stupid the right is. Undocumented immigrants pay taxes, but they don't get the same refunds and Social Security benefits that you do.

The LEFT are the stupid ones, they prove it all the time by opening their mouths. How do illegals pay taxes?

Also, they do not deserve the same refunds or benefits I or any other CITIZEN gets.

 

[AmericanFirst]

This is the reason Gov. Brown is wrong for california. Illegal aliens do not have any right to go to our colleges at our expense. They do not even pay taxes. Shows how stupid the left is.

Shows how stupid the right is. Undocumented immigrants pay taxes, but they don't get the same refunds and Social Security benefits that you do.

Every time you open your mouth on this issue, it just shows you're a clueless moron. Come out here and I'll SHOW YOU them getting paid in cash.

It doesn't matter if they get paid in cash or they pay taxes, fact is they are here illegally. They do not deserve the same benefits as citizens.