Biden’s $1.5 Billion China-Ukraine Bribery Scandal That Was Ignored by Media is now Trump’s Scandal

[Care4all]

True! Why is that "if" there? That's Politifact's attempt at a fig leaf. Please read the details provided by Joe below...

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
"In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat."

I don't see anything that warrants an "if"..

the prosecutor was CORRUPT and not going after the corruption the new president was hired for....

the prosecutor's deputy prosecutors were found with piles of diamonds and gold in their homes, from all the payoffs the elite running the corrupt businesses were paying them to not prosecute them.....

All of our allies were in support of the US's actions of with holding help, until the new president fired the crooked prosecutor.

It was not hidden, their goal was known by all in our government and all in other EU gvts like the UK.

It had nothing to do with his son being a board member for an Oligarch's company there.

And it was done in the best interest of the Ukraine to rid them of the overwhelming corruption the prosecutor was a part of, and theft of their citizens, and the UK, and the USA...who were funding the repair of the Ukraine with diplomatic funds and were concerned with our USA money just ending up in corrupt hands.

The quid pro quo, was a diplomatic one, which happens all the time in Diplomacy, was in the interest of the USA... not for personal or political gain, of themselves

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As opposed to the link in the OP

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Yep, if all else fails, the last resort is to demean the messenger.

Pundit is FAKE News. However, Frank did link to the Hill article which is fact based.

NOT if it is John Solomon... he's become very biased.... but it's opinion rights, I suppose?


By John Solomon — 04/01/19 09:37 PM EDT 1,770
The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill

 

[Thinker101]

the prosecutor was CORRUPT and not going after the corruption the new president was hired for....

the prosecutor's deputy prosecutors were found with piles of diamonds and gold in their homes, from all the payoffs the elite running the corrupt businesses were paying them to not prosecute them.....

All of our allies were in support of the US's actions of with holding help, until the new president fired the crooked prosecutor.

It was not hidden, their goal was known by all in our government and all in other EU gvts like the UK.

It had nothing to do with his son being a board member for an Oligarch's company there.

And it was done in the best interest of the Ukraine to rid them of the overwhelming corruption the prosecutor was a part of, and theft of their citizens, and the UK, and the USA...who were funding the repair of the Ukraine with diplomatic funds and were concerned with our USA money just ending up in corrupt hands.

The quid pro quo, was a diplomatic one, which happens all the time in Diplomacy, was in the interest of the USA... not for personal or political gain, of themselves

A Republican Conspiracy Theory About a Biden-in-Ukraine Scandal Has Gone Mainstream. But It Is Not True.

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Yep, if all else fails, the last resort is to demean the messenger.

Pundit is FAKE News. However, Frank did link to the Hill article which is fact based.

NOT if it is John Solomon... he's become very biased.... but it's opinion rights, I suppose?


By John Solomon — 04/01/19 09:37 PM EDT 1,770
The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill

Yep, and if he doesn't own a red hat I'm sure someone in his family does. And you know what that means.

 

[edthecynic]

Neither Biden not his son committed a crime
Looks like Trump asked the Ukraine leader to investigate Biden's son so that he (Trump) can benefit and beat Biden if the latter ran against him

If Biden told the Ukraine: "fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma Holdings or I will stop the $1-billion in US aid", that is a crime, and it is more than half true...
Fact-checking Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and Ukraine

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived

That's a big azzed If, right there.

True! Why is that "if" there? That's Politifact's attempt at a fig leaf. Please read the details provided by Joe below...

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
"In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat."

I don't see anything that warrants an "if"..

the prosecutor was CORRUPT and not going after the corruption the new president was hired for....

the prosecutor's deputy prosecutors were found with piles of diamonds and gold in their homes, from all the payoffs the elite running the corrupt businesses were paying them to not prosecute them.....

All of our allies were in support of the US's actions of with holding help, until the new president fired the crooked prosecutor.

It was not hidden, their goal was known by all in our government and all in other EU gvts like the UK.

It had nothing to do with his son being a board member for an Oligarch's company there.

And it was done in the best interest of the Ukraine to rid them of the overwhelming corruption the prosecutor was a part of, and theft of their citizens, and the UK, and the USA...who were funding the repair of the Ukraine with diplomatic funds and were concerned with our USA money just ending up in corrupt hands.

The quid pro quo, was a diplomatic one, which happens all the time in Diplomacy, was in the interest of the USA... not for personal or political gain, of themselves

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Well then let's look at your "source" from your own rating service!
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• Fake news posts blame Puerto Rico’s truck drivers for refusing to ship relief supplies – PANTS ON FIRE

Overall, we rate The Gateway Pundit Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracies and numerous instances of publishing false (fake) news.

 

[busybee01]

The hypocrisy of the left is astonishing. They are doing their damnedest to shield Biden and his son from their criminal collusion with China and Ukraine deals.

You Just Can't Make This Up! Joe Biden's $1.5 Billion China-Ukraine Bribery Scandal That Was Ignored by Media is now President Trump's Scandal!

Neither Biden not his son committed a crime
Looks like Trump asked the Ukraine leader to investigate Biden's son so that he (Trump) can benefit and beat Biden if the latter ran against him

If Biden told the Ukraine: "fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma Holdings or I will stop the $1-billion in US aid", that is a crime, and it is more than half true...
Fact-checking Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and Ukraine

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived

Biden threatened to withhold the aid because the prosecutor refused to prosecute corruption.

There is no question that Biden did, during a visit to Kiev in late 2015, threaten to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees unless Shokin was dismissed. But the vice president, who was leading the Obama administration’s effort to fight corruption in Ukraine, did the country a favor by hastening Shokin’s departure, Kaleniuk said, since he had failed to properly investigate corrupt officials.

“Shokin was fired because he attacked the reformers within the prosecutor general’s office,” Kaleniuk said, “reformers who tried to investigate corrupt prosecutors.”

A Republican Conspiracy Theory About a Biden-in-Ukraine Scandal Has Gone Mainstream. But It Is Not True.

 

[busybee01]

Neither Biden not his son committed a crime
Looks like Trump asked the Ukraine leader to investigate Biden's son so that he (Trump) can benefit and beat Biden if the latter ran against him

If Biden told the Ukraine: "fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma Holdings or I will stop the $1-billion in US aid", that is a crime, and it is more than half true...
Fact-checking Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and Ukraine

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived

That's a big azzed If, right there.

True! Why is that "if" there? That's Politifact's attempt at a fig leaf. Please read the details provided by Joe below...

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
"In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat."

I don't see anything that warrants an "if"..

the prosecutor was CORRUPT and not going after the corruption the new president was hired for....

the prosecutor's deputy prosecutors were found with piles of diamonds and gold in their homes, from all the payoffs the elite running the corrupt businesses were paying them to not prosecute them.....

All of our allies were in support of the US's actions of with holding help, until the new president fired the crooked prosecutor.

It was not hidden, their goal was known by all in our government and all in other EU gvts like the UK.

It had nothing to do with his son being a board member for an Oligarch's company there.

And it was done in the best interest of the Ukraine to rid them of the overwhelming corruption the prosecutor was a part of, and theft of their citizens, and the UK, and the USA...who were funding the repair of the Ukraine with diplomatic funds and were concerned with our USA money just ending up in corrupt hands.

The quid pro quo, was a diplomatic one, which happens all the time in Diplomacy, was in the interest of the USA... not for personal or political gain, of themselves

A Republican Conspiracy Theory About a Biden-in-Ukraine Scandal Has Gone Mainstream. But It Is Not True.

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They bothered to talk to a Ukrainian reformer which gives it more validity than you clowns have. Take your lying ass and shove it.

 

[Care4all]

If I asked Ukrainian agents to produce dirt on trump, would that be bad?

Are you saying the ukrainean administration or the administration's representatives, their president or heads of government....???

HELL YES that would have been wrong, especially if you were using your position as president to withhold aid for that political purpose

 

[bendog]

If I asked Ukrainian agents to produce dirt on trump, would that be bad?

Are you saying the ukrainean administration or the administration's representatives, their president or heads of government....???

HELL YES that would have been wrong, especially if you were using your position as president to withhold aid for that political purpose

He's attempting the tired and false analogy of "Hill did wrong when Perkins Coie hired fusion GPS to track down the facts about Vlad and Don"

And there'd be nothing wrong for any pol to hire an investigator, here or abroad, to investigate some allegation or something. The money would have to be disclosed in campaign records.

And it's simply a dishonest to say it's the same to offer to use a public office in a way to get a for govt to help in an election by "investigating" a pol rival.

 

[White_MAGA_Man]

If Biden told the Ukraine: "fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma Holdings or I will stop the $1-billion in US aid", that is a crime, and it is more than half true...
Fact-checking Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and Ukraine

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived

That's a big azzed If, right there.

True! Why is that "if" there? That's Politifact's attempt at a fig leaf. Please read the details provided by Joe below...

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
"In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat."

I don't see anything that warrants an "if"..

the prosecutor was CORRUPT and not going after the corruption the new president was hired for....

the prosecutor's deputy prosecutors were found with piles of diamonds and gold in their homes, from all the payoffs the elite running the corrupt businesses were paying them to not prosecute them.....

All of our allies were in support of the US's actions of with holding help, until the new president fired the crooked prosecutor.

It was not hidden, their goal was known by all in our government and all in other EU gvts like the UK.

It had nothing to do with his son being a board member for an Oligarch's company there.

And it was done in the best interest of the Ukraine to rid them of the overwhelming corruption the prosecutor was a part of, and theft of their citizens, and the UK, and the USA...who were funding the repair of the Ukraine with diplomatic funds and were concerned with our USA money just ending up in corrupt hands.

The quid pro quo, was a diplomatic one, which happens all the time in Diplomacy, was in the interest of the USA... not for personal or political gain, of themselves

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They bothered to talk to a Ukrainian reformer which gives it more validity than you clowns have. Take your lying ass and shove it.

The story has no validity. The source is flawed.

 

[bendog]

That's a big azzed If, right there.

True! Why is that "if" there? That's Politifact's attempt at a fig leaf. Please read the details provided by Joe below...

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
"In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat."

I don't see anything that warrants an "if"..

the prosecutor was CORRUPT and not going after the corruption the new president was hired for....

the prosecutor's deputy prosecutors were found with piles of diamonds and gold in their homes, from all the payoffs the elite running the corrupt businesses were paying them to not prosecute them.....

All of our allies were in support of the US's actions of with holding help, until the new president fired the crooked prosecutor.

It was not hidden, their goal was known by all in our government and all in other EU gvts like the UK.

It had nothing to do with his son being a board member for an Oligarch's company there.

And it was done in the best interest of the Ukraine to rid them of the overwhelming corruption the prosecutor was a part of, and theft of their citizens, and the UK, and the USA...who were funding the repair of the Ukraine with diplomatic funds and were concerned with our USA money just ending up in corrupt hands.

The quid pro quo, was a diplomatic one, which happens all the time in Diplomacy, was in the interest of the USA... not for personal or political gain, of themselves

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They bothered to talk to a Ukrainian reformer which gives it more validity than you clowns have. Take your lying ass and shove it.

The story has no validity. The source is flawed.

Irony. Great thread LOL

 

[Siete]

That's a big azzed If, right there.

True! Why is that "if" there? That's Politifact's attempt at a fig leaf. Please read the details provided by Joe below...

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
"In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat."

I don't see anything that warrants an "if"..

the prosecutor was CORRUPT and not going after the corruption the new president was hired for....

the prosecutor's deputy prosecutors were found with piles of diamonds and gold in their homes, from all the payoffs the elite running the corrupt businesses were paying them to not prosecute them.....

All of our allies were in support of the US's actions of with holding help, until the new president fired the crooked prosecutor.

It was not hidden, their goal was known by all in our government and all in other EU gvts like the UK.

It had nothing to do with his son being a board member for an Oligarch's company there.

And it was done in the best interest of the Ukraine to rid them of the overwhelming corruption the prosecutor was a part of, and theft of their citizens, and the UK, and the USA...who were funding the repair of the Ukraine with diplomatic funds and were concerned with our USA money just ending up in corrupt hands.

The quid pro quo, was a diplomatic one, which happens all the time in Diplomacy, was in the interest of the USA... not for personal or political gain, of themselves

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They bothered to talk to a Ukrainian reformer which gives it more validity than you clowns have. Take your lying ass and shove it.

The story has no validity. The source is flawed.

thats always the case unless Trump said it. He's the only one that tells the truth -

 

[Care4all]

If I asked Ukrainian agents to produce dirt on trump, would that be bad?

Are you saying the ukrainean administration or the administration's representatives, their president or heads of government....???

HELL YES that would have been wrong, especially if you were using your position as president to withhold aid for that political purpose

He's attempting the tired and false analogy of "Hill did wrong when Perkins Coie hired fusion GPS to track down the facts about Vlad and Don"

And there'd be nothing wrong for any pol to hire an investigator, here or abroad, to investigate some allegation or something. The money would have to be disclosed in campaign records.

And it's simply a dishonest to say it's the same to offer to use a public office in a way to get a for govt to help in an election by "investigating" a pol rival.

I think he's talking about Manafort, and some outside of the campaign Dem operative woman who has relations and friends in the lower level embassy in the Ukraine, who gave her a PUBLIC REPORT on Manafort that was openly available for anyone to get... it's just another bull crap lack of comparison that Trumpsters are trying to use to free their god from his sins....

 

[TheGreatSatan]

If I asked Ukrainian agents to produce dirt on trump, would that be bad?

Are you saying the ukrainean administration or the administration's representatives, their president or heads of government....???

HELL YES that would have been wrong, especially if you were using your position as president to withhold aid for that political purpose

He's attempting the tired and false analogy of "Hill did wrong when Perkins Coie hired fusion GPS to track down the facts about Vlad and Don"

And there'd be nothing wrong for any pol to hire an investigator, here or abroad, to investigate some allegation or something. The money would have to be disclosed in campaign records.

And it's simply a dishonest to say it's the same to offer to use a public office in a way to get a for govt to help in an election by "investigating" a pol rival.

I think he's talking about Manafort, and some outside of the campaign Dem operative woman who has relations and friends in the lower level embassy in the Ukraine, who gave her a PUBLIC REPORT on Manafort that was openly available for anyone to get... it's just another bull crap lack of comparison that Trumpsters are trying to use to free their god from his sins....

You're both wrong, I'm talking about this...

 

[edward37]

A lifelong WH rep will give up his reputation and job to lie about the traitor Trump?? I don't think so, Trump doesn't know who it is but he knows he's partisan?? We'' need to impeach to get the real news of how Trump is asking once again for help from a foreign nation Only this time he's paying for it

 

[TheGreatSatan]

A lifelong WH rep will give up his reputation and job to lie about the traitor Trump?? I don't think so, Trump doesn't know who it is but he knows he's partisan?? We'' need to impeach to get the real news of how Trump is asking once again for help from a foreign nation Only this time he's paying for it

If Democrats believed their own propaganda they would be well into impeachment already.

Why is Nancy Pelosi protecting trump?

 

[edward37]

A lifelong WH rep will give up his reputation and job to lie about the traitor Trump?? I don't think so, Trump doesn't know who it is but he knows he's partisan?? We'' need to impeach to get the real news of how Trump is asking once again for help from a foreign nation Only this time he's paying for it

AND republican dolts want to think dump didn't send Guliani to get Ukraines help , that he did it on his own?? Stupid Repubs will believe anything

 

[TheGreatSatan]

A lifelong WH rep will give up his reputation and job to lie about the traitor Trump?? I don't think so, Trump doesn't know who it is but he knows he's partisan?? We'' need to impeach to get the real news of how Trump is asking once again for help from a foreign nation Only this time he's paying for it

AND republican dolts want to think dump didn't send Guliani to get Ukraines help , that he did it on his own?? Stupid Repubs will believe anything

Giuliani was just trying to get naked pics of adam shift from Ukrainians.

 

[edward37]

A lifelong WH rep will give up his reputation and job to lie about the traitor Trump?? I don't think so, Trump doesn't know who it is but he knows he's partisan?? We'' need to impeach to get the real news of how Trump is asking once again for help from a foreign nation Only this time he's paying for it

If Democrats believed their own propaganda they would be well into impeachment already.

Why is Nancy Pelosi protecting trump?

Why is the whole Repub senate protecting the traitor trump?? He is obviously a lowlife slime bag and long after trump is gone his stench will remain on each and every repub in office

 

[bendog]

If I asked Ukrainian agents to produce dirt on trump, would that be bad?

Are you saying the ukrainean administration or the administration's representatives, their president or heads of government....???

HELL YES that would have been wrong, especially if you were using your position as president to withhold aid for that political purpose

He's attempting the tired and false analogy of "Hill did wrong when Perkins Coie hired fusion GPS to track down the facts about Vlad and Don"

And there'd be nothing wrong for any pol to hire an investigator, here or abroad, to investigate some allegation or something. The money would have to be disclosed in campaign records.

And it's simply a dishonest to say it's the same to offer to use a public office in a way to get a for govt to help in an election by "investigating" a pol rival.

I think he's talking about Manafort, and some outside of the campaign Dem operative woman who has relations and friends in the lower level embassy in the Ukraine, who gave her a PUBLIC REPORT on Manafort that was openly available for anyone to get... it's just another bull crap lack of comparison that Trumpsters are trying to use to free their god from his sins....

You're both wrong, I'm talking about this...

I'm not using my video for anything you put up. If you put up a written link, I'll gladly read it.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

A lifelong WH rep will give up his reputation and job to lie about the traitor Trump?? I don't think so, Trump doesn't know who it is but he knows he's partisan?? We'' need to impeach to get the real news of how Trump is asking once again for help from a foreign nation Only this time he's paying for it

If Democrats believed their own propaganda they would be well into impeachment already.

Why is Nancy Pelosi protecting trump?

Why is the whole Repub senate protecting the traitor trump?? He is obviously a lowlife slime bag and long after trump is gone his stench will remain on each and every repub in office

But the Democrat controlled house can't seem to pass impeachment. Make it an issue and lay your case out to America. If it fails atleast you know you tried to do the right thing. The right thing is rarely easy.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

If I asked Ukrainian agents to produce dirt on trump, would that be bad?

Are you saying the ukrainean administration or the administration's representatives, their president or heads of government....???

HELL YES that would have been wrong, especially if you were using your position as president to withhold aid for that political purpose

He's attempting the tired and false analogy of "Hill did wrong when Perkins Coie hired fusion GPS to track down the facts about Vlad and Don"

And there'd be nothing wrong for any pol to hire an investigator, here or abroad, to investigate some allegation or something. The money would have to be disclosed in campaign records.

And it's simply a dishonest to say it's the same to offer to use a public office in a way to get a for govt to help in an election by "investigating" a pol rival.

I think he's talking about Manafort, and some outside of the campaign Dem operative woman who has relations and friends in the lower level embassy in the Ukraine, who gave her a PUBLIC REPORT on Manafort that was openly available for anyone to get... it's just another bull crap lack of comparison that Trumpsters are trying to use to free their god from his sins....

You're both wrong, I'm talking about this...

I'm not using my video for anything you put up. If you put up a written link, I'll gladly read it.

I'm not surprised a Democrat knows nothing about this...
Audio: Russian Comedians Prank Called Rep. Adam Schiff, Promised Him Naked Photos Of Trump