Barack Obama’s - Failure in Afghanistan

[Geaux4it]

Odummy over his head of course. He should of listened like this about Iraq

Dummy

"More importantly, there is no credible end game to Mr Obama’s new plan. That headache will be inherited by his successor"

-Geaux
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President’s tenure will be seen as a confused but well-intentioned pause in struggle with Islamism

President Barack Obama banned all references to the Vietnam war when discussing Afghanistan, according to the late Richard Holbrooke. The latter, who died on the job in 2010 as Mr Obama’s “AfPak” envoy, is poised to return from the grave in a moving HBO documentary, The Diplomat . Its premiere next month is one of those ironies of timing. Holbrooke made it plain that Mr Obama’s time-limited Afghan surge could not work. US troops would be stretched too thin for too short a time to stabilise the country. The White House froze him out. Last week, Mr Obama implicitly conceded Holbrooke’s point. US troops will now stay on in Afghanistan beyond the end of his presidency. Who knows where that will end?

Barack Obama’s painful Afghan journey - FT.com

 

[waltky]

ISIS growing in Afghanistan...

Pentagon report warns Islamic State growing in Afghanistan
Tuesday 15th December, 2015 | WASHINGTON - The Pentagon on Tuesday warned that the Islamic State was getting active in Afghanistan where an offshoot of the Sunni Muslim terror group was becoming "more operationally active" and openly fighting the Taliban.

The department of defense released a report, "Enhancing Security and Stability in Afghanistan", in which the Pentagon claimed that "the presence of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) Khorasan Province (IS-KP) primarily in the eastern province of Nangarhar remains a concern for the Taliban, the Afghan government, and the international community". The Islamic State is also referred to as ISIL and IS-KP is its offshoot in Afghanistan where the Taliban-led insurgency has been emboldened and is growing in power and outreach after the US-led coalition's transition this year from direct combat operations to a train-and-advise role.

The US now has about 9,800 troops in Afghanistan. "Through attacks against a United Nations (UN) vehicle and the ANDSF in September 2015, IS-KP has demonstrated that it is operationally emergent," the report said. The report point that advances by the IS-KP could stoke "increased violence" with other extremist groups in 2016. The Islamic State offshoot "has progressed from its initial exploratory phase to a point where they are openly fighting the Taliban for the establishment of a safe haven, and are becoming more operationally active," the report said.

It said the group "has successfully seized pockets of terrain from the Taliban in Nangarhar Province". It noted that IS-KP claimed responsibility for an IED attack against a United Nations vehicle in September and conducted an attack later that month against as many as 10 checkpoints. According to the DOD, the offshoot is growing by recruiting "disaffected Taliban" and others.

The report comes as General John Campbell, the commander of US forces in Afghanistan, told Associated Press in an interview that Islamic States supporters in Afghanistan were trying to set up a base in Jalalabad, a city in the eastern part of the country. "I'm sure there are folks who have come from Syria and Iraq. I couldn't tell you how many but there are indications of some foreign fighters coming in there," Campbell stated. "But they don't have the capability right now to attack Europe, or attack the homeland, the United States. But that's what they want to do. They've said that's what they want to do."

Pentagon report warns Islamic State growing in Afghanistan

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Barack Obama’s - Failure in Afghanistan"

Wrong.

Afghanistan is GWB's failure, along with Iraq.

Indeed, Iraq and Afghanistan will forever be the sole responsibility of GWB, forever his failure, forever responsible for the consequences of those two failed, illegal wars, regardless the current administration, democratic or republican.

 

[Davros]

Should have left Afghanistan after they got bin Laden and Zawahiri. Oops. They never got Zawahiri. Bush went to Afghanistan to get Al Qaeda but then the Taliban became the main enemy. Dumb ass nation building in a tribal society.

 

[Davros]

"Barack Obama’s - Failure in Afghanistan"

Wrong.

Afghanistan is GWB's failure, along with Iraq.

Indeed, Iraq and Afghanistan will forever be the sole responsibility of GWB, forever his failure, forever responsible for the consequences of those two failed, illegal wars, regardless the current administration, democratic or republican.

Everything that guy just said is total bullshit.

 

[BluesLegend]

ISIS growing in Afghanistan...

How dare you contradict Obama he says ISIS is contained. I swear you right wingers are all the time throwing out facts to make him look like a stupid moron why do you do that? /sarcasm

 

[ScienceRocks]

Sooner or later a nation needs to help themselves.

Afghanistan isn't a failure for obama! Afghanistan failed its self.

 

[tinydancer]

The odd thing about this situation in Afghanistan is that the UN Security Council warned everyone in March 2015 that ISIS was gaining strength in Afghanistan. In September of this year the United Nations started screaming about ISIS taking over from the Taliban in most of the provinces in Afghanistan.

Hence Putin at that point in time in September realizing Obama wasn't doing jack shit about the situation and with ISIS at his back door decided to jump in and start bombing the shit out of ISIS.

So twice the United Nations informed Obama and others that ISIS was taking over Afghanistan and they did nothing.

And only now three freaking months later the Pentagon finally admits that ISIS has Afghanistan.

What type of freaking game is Obama running down on us?

 

[ScienceRocks]

The odd thing about this situation in Afghanistan is that the UN Security Council warned everyone in March 2015 that ISIS was gaining strength in Afghanistan. In September of this year the United Nations started screaming about ISIS taking over from the Taliban in most of the provinces in Afghanistan.

Hence Putin at that point in time in September realizing Obama wasn't doing jack shit about the situation and with ISIS at his back door decided to jump in and start bombing the shit out of ISIS.

So twice the United Nations informed Obama and others that ISIS was taking over Afghanistan and they did nothing.

And only now three freaking months later the Pentagon finally admits that ISIS has Afghanistan.

What type of freaking game is Obama running down on us?

We'd have to burn all the korans, take over the entire middle east and put a military Governor in power. As it stands at the moment nations like Afghanistan are wipe for this kind of take over.

There's no allow such belief systems to compete within the middle east if we wish for stability.

 

[Geaux4it]

"Barack Obama’s - Failure in Afghanistan"

Wrong.

Afghanistan is GWB's failure, along with Iraq.

Indeed, Iraq and Afghanistan will forever be the sole responsibility of GWB, forever his failure, forever responsible for the consequences of those two failed, illegal wars, regardless the current administration, democratic or republican.

Another one of Clayton's endless proclamations and opinions. We prefer to consider facts

-Geaux
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Obama’s War
Afghanistan has little strategic value and the war is one of choice rather than neces

Afghanistan is often called the "graveyard of empires." It is also Barack Obama's Achilles' heel. He has nobody to blame but himself.

Afghanistan has little strategic value and the war is one of choice rather than necessity. Now, at the end of a wasteful and frustrating decade, our objective is to end the fighting and leave a measure of stability behind. But clarifying even this simple goal seems more than the Obama administration can handle.

Like the rest of Obama's foreign policy, U.S. strategy in that beleaguered country is misguided, confused, and aimless. To the president, the war in Afghanistan is a domestic political issue. It is intended to bolster his electoral future, to help pass his domestic legislative agenda, and to placate critics of his policies in Iraq and the rest of the Middle East.

Obama's War