Awwww man...! Not Again!

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    <center><h1><a href=http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/1/2005/1042>A flat out whopper</a></h1></center>

    <tt>January 13, 2005

    AUSTIN, Texas -- Cheez, I go to all this trouble not to call the president of the United States a liar -- perhaps misinformed, did not seem to know about, no one has told him, etc. -- and then he just comes flat out with a whopper.

    Drolly enough, he prefaced his latest with the unlikely statement, "As a matter of fact ..." before he proceeded to do battle against truth: "... by the time today's workers who are in their mid-20s begin to retire, the system will be bankrupt. So if you're 20 years old, in your mid-20s, and you're beginning to work, I want you to think about a Social Security system that will be flat bust, bankrupt, unless the United States Congress has got the willingness to act now. And that's what we're here to talk about, a system that will be bankrupt."

    Let's try this again, slowly, for those who, like the president, seem to be having difficulty with reality. Social Security will not be bankrupt, will not be flat bust in 2042 or 2052 or even, as the president has also claimed, by 2018. According to the deliberately alarmist projections of the fund's trustees, it will have exhausted the trust fund in 2042. According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, Social Security will be able to rely on the trust fund until 2052 and after that will still be able to pay 81 percent of scheduled benefits.

    And that's if no changes are made to the current system. - Molly Ivins</tt>

    Unfortunately, lying seems to be a way of life for Dubbyuh. He creates crises that don't exist and then tries, in a half-assed, fumbling manner that leaves a crisis where none existed previously, to solve his created crisis.

    Look, we've been through this before with Iraq, do we really have to go through it again here at home?

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    Yeah, Awwww man...! Not Again! Another IDIOTIC post by bully! :funnyface :finger3:
     
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    No, he didn't make that one up that was Molly Ivins. A real shocker that it might be slightly anti-Bush and a little off.
     
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    So Bully,

    Molly Ivins says that in 2052 that SS will be unable to pay the whole of the benefits, but that's okay because it will be her Grandchildren that will have to figure out the solution when it does become a serious crisis.

    I for one like to have a forward thinking President that works to solve an issue before it becomes the crisis that it is likely to become if we keep the system the way it currently is. There is no doubt we will either have to raise taxes or cut the output and neither is really acceptable. This system was made as a safeguard against exactly this, somebody spending their entire investment before they came to retirement age. In this case it is the very group that is supposed to be protecting the citizens that is fivolously and fraudulently spending the money. And yes I do blame it on both of the parties, they get those billions and just can't help themselves.

    Now while the end of SS as we know it doesn't come for a while I would rather not have my child paying for the crisis when the head finally does pop on this torrential zit on the face of US fiscal providence.

    Regardless of the crisis status it is a terrible program that pays less than a 1% return on investment. I can do better than that just putting the money in a bank account let alone working within the safe limits that are set by his program that would allow me to put money into a private account.

    I would rather pay more now and fix the issue then let it rot and fester and make my children pay three times as much when it finally is a crisis.
     
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    So in 1998 Bully and Molly must have believed that President Clinton was whipping up a fictional crisis as well.

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    I lived in Texas for a while, and was subjected to the drivel of Molly Ivins on a daily basis. I found her to be a perfect reverse barometer: if she comes out against something, it can't be all bad.

    We finally have a Chief Executive who displays the courage and conscience to address himself to the "third rail" of politics. It HAS to be addressed, Bully. Do the math. What do you suggest - we just whistle a happy tune and hope everything turns out all right?
     
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    Anybody notice that reforming social security was a really big issue until Bush started trying to fix it?
     
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    Same as Saddam. Anybody else remember that Clinton made it US Foreign policy by signing Legislation to have Regime Change in Iraq in 1998? Looks like a busy year of running around creating Crises for Clinton.
     

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