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    It's dead without me. No one really cares about the Japs in Japan just like you don't care about south Americans from Honduris.
     
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    Are you saying this forum can't survive without you trolling it?
     
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    Got seven posts marked for deletion and I quit. Thread needs to close. Gotten way too personal for a serious topic.
     
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    As for Japan's attempt to build the A bomb check, Japan had no uranium so the Germans were to supply the uranium. Check Uboats 234,235.
     
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    LOL, it's not a historical article, but some opinion piece by a schmoe, and you're the one criticizing everyone about other's history. (Family attack removed)
    "The surrender of Imperial Japan was announced on August 15 and formally signed on September 2, 1945, bringing the hostilities of World War II to a close. By the end of July 1945, the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) was incapable of conducting major operations and an Allied invasion of Japan was imminent. Together with the British Empire and China, the United States called for the unconditional surrender of the Japanese armed forces in the Potsdam Declaration on July 26, 1945—the alternative being "prompt and utter destruction". While publicly stating their intent to fight on to the bitter end, Japan's leaders (the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War, also known as the "Big Six") were privately making entreaties to the still-neutral Soviet Union to mediate peace on terms more favorable to the Japanese. Meanwhile, the Soviets were preparing to attack Japanese forces in Manchuria and Korea (in addition to South Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands) in fulfillment of promises they had secretly made to the United States and the United Kingdom at the Tehran and Yalta Conferences.

    On August 6, 1945, at 8:15 AM local time, the United States detonated an atomic bomb over the Japanese city of Hiroshima. Sixteen hours later, American President Harry S. Truman called again for Japan's surrender, warning them to "expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth." Late in the evening of August 8, 1945, in accordance with the Yalta agreements, but in violation of the Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan, and soon after midnight on August 9, 1945, the Soviet Union invaded the Imperial Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo. Later in the day, the United States dropped a second atomic bomb, this time on the Japanese city of Nagasaki. Following these events, Emperor Hirohito intervened and ordered the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War to accept the terms the Allies had set down in the Potsdam Declaration for ending the war. After several more days of behind-the-scenes negotiations and a failed coup d'état, Emperor Hirohito gave a recorded radio address across the Empire on August 15. In the radio address, called the Jewel Voice Broadcast (玉音放送 Gyokuon-hōsō), he announced the surrender of Japan to the Allies.

    On August 28, the occupation of Japan led by the Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers began. The surrender ceremony was held on September 2, aboard the United States Navy battleship USS Missouri, at which officials from the Japanese government signed the Japanese Instrument of Surrender, thereby ending the hostilities. Allied civilians and military personnel alike celebrated V-J Day, the end of the war; however, isolated soldiers and personnel from Japan's far-flung forces throughout Asia and the Pacific refused to surrender for months and years afterwards, some even refusing into the 1970s. The role of the atomic bombings in Japan's unconditional surrender, and the ethics of the two attacks, is still debated. The state of war formally ended when the Treaty of San Francisco came into force on April 28, 1952. Four more years passed before Japan and the Soviet Union signed the Soviet–Japanese Joint Declaration of 1956, which formally brought an end to their state of war."

    Surrender of Japan - Wikipedia
     
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    Since I screwed up and forgot to actually close this :1041: anyone that wants to actually return to the EXACT topic of the OP is welcome to do so. I'm linked to this thread. So don't make me sorry for being such a push-over. LOL.
     
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    Although sad better them then us
     
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    Why? They're places of imprisonment of masses of people without a trial. I gave you two examples.
     
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    Quite the contrary, the Japanese were looking for a diplomatic solution, and dropping the bombs was unneeded. What got them to surrender was the USSR entering the war. Really, the USSR did most of the Heavy Lifting in WWII, we just benefited.
     
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    Look I have repeatedly posted the link to SOURCE documents from the Japanese Government that clearly show no one running the Japanese Government offered to surrender even after 2 atomic bombs and even after the emperor surrendered the Army staged a Coup to stop that.
     

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