Arizona says NO to Obamacare

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    Friday, June 12, 2009

    PHOENIX -- Saying they are working to prevent socialism, members of the state House voted 34-19 Thursday to ask voters to block the federal government from forcing Arizonans to enroll in any universal health care program.

    "We are a front-line battle state to stop the momentum of this powerful government takeover of your health care decisions,' argued Rep. Nancy Barto, R-Phoenix, the sponsor of the measure.

    "Health care by lobbyists thwarts your rights and can be stopped here.'
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    As a Arizona resident I applaud our state house for sending a message that Arizona doesn't want an intrusive Federal Govt. managing healthcare. I had posted this in another thread and thought it worth starting a thread topic on, as it shows that some states know best whats best for themselves as far as whats best for it's citizens. Arizona is attempting to do the same thing with the Forced Unionization bill comming soon. In that Arizona will assert it's right as a "right to work state". I think it's telling when states have to start asserting their rights to a Federal Govt. that has not idea that providing healthcare to the entire nation is something that it's not constitutionally allowed to do..
     
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    HCR2024 is an Arizona state bill being introduced to assert AZ state sovereignty and limit the Federal govt from meddling in state matters in the future.
    call, write, email and fax your state rep and support this bill.
     
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    Interesting political development.

    Should it come to it, I expect the Supreme Court will have to rule on the constitutionality of a state denying its citizens enrollment in this proposed Federal program.

    Clearly the AZ legislators who voted for it will say that that is their right as a state government, and the Feds will insist that the state has no such right.
     
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    So what else is new from the party of no.

    pfft.
     
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    This is why the GOP will lose this state. :clap2:


    Health-care issues lead latest Arizona State University-Southwest Poll
    Questions examine opinions in Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and Texas

    IMAGE: When asked whether the country's health care system needs reform, 86 percent of Southwesterners said "a great deal " or "only a little " reform is needed, according to the latest Arizona...

    TEMPE, Ariz. – A majority of Southwesterners – 86 percent – think the U.S. health care system is in need of some reform, and more than half – 53 percent – indicate "a great deal of reform" is needed, according to the most recent Arizona State University-Southwest Poll.

    Specifically, 53 percent of all the respondents "strongly" or "somewhat" favored the U.S. government guaranteeing health insurance.


    Health-care issues lead latest Arizona State University-Southwest Poll
     
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    I would not count on the GOP losing Arizona anytime soon sealy, however, I do think this law will set up an interesting court battle of the constitutionality of the healthcare issue. If you read the article closely though, it does not deny people the ability to enroll in a Govt. sponsored healthcare program, what it does do however, is take away the mandates.
     
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    This is why I love polls, I swear...

    Results of the poll, which were released June 9, are online at: issrweb.asu.edu. They are based on a lengthy 45-question telephone poll conducted by the Institute for Social Science Research at Arizona State University. The poll asked 501 Southwest adult residents in Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and Texas their opinions on several issues, including health care costs and quality, electronic medial records, and the economy.

    So given the fact there are roughly what 45 to 50 million people that live in these states 501 people represent what percentage of the population of all 4 of the states? Even if this poll said 99% of the people didnt want health care it would still be flawed.
     
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    Given that most of the young people starting entry level jobs in the workforce find themselves unable to afford health insurance if the company does not sponsor it, and small businessmen cannot afford to pay the price for good healthcare insurance, I believe that we will have to come up with something that works, or we will see in a decade, the present generation simply voting in a system that will turn your conservative hair very white.

    There are many working systems out there. We are do not have to re-invent the wheel here. Here is where you can see how five of them, Britain, Japan, Taiwan, Germany, and Switland, work.
    FRONTLINE: sick around the world | PBS
     
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    Arizona--like Massachuttes--may have already fixed the health care problem in their state--& don't want to be taxed to death to pay for everyone else who hasn't?
     
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    Don't forget to shut down them thar public school systems and close all of the libraries too. Gotta get rid of ALL that thar socialism.Don't forget " social security" Yer granny can get off her lazy ass and get a job and be a real Amurkin !.
    BTW . I like that Nazi avatar.
    Idiots..................
     

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