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Let me see if I got this right, you claim that a tiny wisp of CO2, which is in quantities that could be described as a rounding error to being,
Don't be absurd. The rounding error nonsense, that is. Are you trying to demonstrate your total lack of statistical knowledge?
is causing: the planet to warm, melting the ice caps, acidify the oceans,
All well-proven. Only deranged political cranks deny such basics.
spawn Cat 5 hurricanes, floods and droughts,
Now you're veering into misrepresentation. As you always do.
but you can't point to a single lab experiment that show how CO2 does any of that because the system is too complicated and has too many variables.
Is that about right?
Middle-school science fairs regularly do such experiments. This has been pointed out to Frank before.
Science Fair Projects - Carbon dioxide (CO2) and global warming
Frank is apparently upset because the big players aren't publishing papers replicating the century-old science demonstrated at the middle-school science fairs.
6 Air from a person lungs a carbon dioxide concentration of about 4% whereas the smoke from the exhaust of a car will have about 12% carbon dioxide. The air around us has about 0.038% carbon dioxide.
Full disclosure, I ain't a republican, never was and never will be. I am however conservative by nature and politics, and do not trust those who have already been exposed as manipulators of the truth, as well as those who are trying to manipulate me.
Trying economic times such as we currently find ourselves in are not the right time to be blowing huge amounts of money on wind/solar companies and express trains that are nowhere near feasible to run. Be different if the rest of the world wasn't polluting the planet worse than we are, or if there was definitive proof that ecological disaster was imminent.
Let me see if I got this right, you claim that a tiny wisp of CO2, which is in quantities that could be described as a rounding error to being,
Don't be absurd. The rounding error nonsense, that is. Are you trying to demonstrate your total lack of statistical knowledge?
is causing: the planet to warm, melting the ice caps, acidify the oceans,
All well-proven. Only deranged political cranks deny such basics.
spawn Cat 5 hurricanes, floods and droughts,
Now you're veering into misrepresentation. As you always do.
but you can't point to a single lab experiment that show how CO2 does any of that because the system is too complicated and has too many variables.
Is that about right?
Middle-school science fairs regularly do such experiments. This has been pointed out to Frank before.
Science Fair Projects - Carbon dioxide (CO2) and global warming
Frank is apparently upset because the big players aren't publishing papers replicating the century-old science demonstrated at the middle-school science fairs.
You do know don't you that CO2 follows temperature in the historical record as much as it LEADS temperature change?
And that because the warming factor from CO2 is logarithmic, it takes MASSIVELY INCREASING amounts of CO2 to get the SAME temp change at each step?
That point is largely determined by the overlap in absoption with water vapor -- which is the PRIMARY greenhouse gas.
And the effect of changes in the SPECTRAL content of the sun's radiation..... An effect JUST DISCOVERED since we've had real-time satellite spectral observations of the Sun.
We are also short of understanding on MASSIVE EXCHANGES of CO2 that occur between the atmos. and the sea and land. The SEA puts 10 times the amount of CO2 into the atmos every year that man does and yet sinks more than it puts up. Same with the land.
And the ability of the sea and land to sink that excess is LARGER than it was assumed.
But I'm out of here.
That's how they "proved" that sodium cyclamate and saccharine were "carcinogens"...They pumped lab rats with the equivalent of a human drinking four cases of diet soda for ten years and voila, they got tumors!Let me see if I got this right, you claim that a tiny wisp of CO2, which is in quantities that could be described as a rounding error to being,
Don't be absurd. The rounding error nonsense, that is. Are you trying to demonstrate your total lack of statistical knowledge?
All well-proven. Only deranged political cranks deny such basics.
Now you're veering into misrepresentation. As you always do.
but you can't point to a single lab experiment that show how CO2 does any of that because the system is too complicated and has too many variables.
Is that about right?
Middle-school science fairs regularly do such experiments. This has been pointed out to Frank before.
Science Fair Projects - Carbon dioxide (CO2) and global warming
Frank is apparently upset because the big players aren't publishing papers replicating the century-old science demonstrated at the middle-school science fairs.
Once again, another set of experiments that have absolutely nothing to do with the central theory of AGW.
The difference between 4% CO2 and .038% CO2 is not the rounding error you claim affects the climate, but is several order of magnitude increase.
You knew that, right?
Why do you never have an experiment that shows the (non-existent) temperature differences between 250, 350 and 450 PPM of CO2?
Why do you suppose that is?
Also, the Warmers are the ones alleging that AGW causes both floods and droughts. It's ridiculous when I repeat it back to you but that's how OR spends most of his time at USMB, posting stories from the Weather Channel and blaming AGW
Are there any republican believers in climate change on here?
1. Do you believe the Earth is warming?
2. If so, do you believe humans are causing it?
3. If so, do you think it will effect humans slightly, moderately, or in a major way?
4. Or do you not believe in it?
.........and only the k00ks want taxes going for windmills and solar panels. Thankfully, their numbers are politically irrelevant.
Hey Frank.........I crack myself up on here bro..........
Real information from real scientists, * * * *
....spawn Cat 5 hurricanes, floods and droughts,
Now you're veering into misrepresentation. As you always do.
No, it has not happened before in recorded history. Not the rate of extreme weather events.
But then, go ahead and take your science from an obese junkie on the radio and an undegreed ex-TV weatherman. In the meantime, I will continue to read what real scientists are finding out. Like Jennifer Francis.
Weather and Climate Summit - Day 5, Jennifer Francis - YouTube
