ANOTHER GOLDEN oportunity for liberals to RUN and HIDE from reality about Obama Admin

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    Director’s Blog » Blog Archive » The Long-Term Budget Outlook

    The line for liberal Obama Administration Apologists to start evading these concerns starts here.
     
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    Unfortunately,

    We have all been duped. There's no GOP administrations or DNC Administrations left that wouldn't cave to the invisible-hands of Corporate Interests, Lobbyists, etc.

    If you ask ten persons on the street what runs this Country, Money or Men, at least 8 but maybe all ten would say money. Human-nature has led us to the promise-land of worshipping Capital. It's how it always was and always will-be, but is now exascerbated (sp?) because we are the Strongest (IMO) Nation to ever exist.

    In-terms of Earth Years, man-kind is young. Rome was a great empire but it fell. The remnants of what made it strong helped build this Nation, but Human-Beings are now more advanced and our money-worship probably has more harsh consequences to come.

    For a philosopher, or any thinking person; the solution is obviously the right-mix of capitalism and empathy. To ignore empathy, Greed takes over one's Government and Citizens become a statistic. (see: Tobacco).

    So what's the fucking answer, geniuses?
     
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    Yes, I also believe that we are on a path to insolvency leading to the nation becoming more like a third world nation than the leader of the free world.

    Of course Obama is helping, but he can hardly be credited with all the factors leading us to this unhappy state.
     
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    Oh, I am going to credit him he is the one who keeps pushing this massive train wreck, he doesn't even take a breath. First the no stimulus- stimulus bill thats not creating any jobs, Cap and Trade, a major job KILLER, and his new health care plan. The CBO has come out and stated that this would not reduce health care costs, it will INCREASE THEM. Yet he is still behind this train wreck, strong arming everyone into going along with it.

    The good news, his own party is starting to bail on him. Thank God.

    He pushes his agenda without giving any consideration to the consequences, he is to blame.
     
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    The current group of democrats don't care how much money they spend or what the consequences of spending that money might be. At the present spending rate we are soon going to be just like the state of California - bankrupt. What then, Batman?
     
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    Well you're naturally welcome to assume that sans the stimulus happy days would be here again, but I rather doubt you're right about that.

    Even assuming that the stimulus is making things worse (which they might be) the problem in this economy is beyond the mere problem of the current meltdown.

    The people, the majority of people, have been getting poorer for the last 40 years.

    All the other bubbles and busts we're had are symptoms of that systemic economic disruption.
     
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    Oh, because the blame game has always worked. :clap2:

    Do you know why you're even here? To debate, no? Why do you think both sides are able to carry-on these debates/blame games/etc.? Of course, your cute quip. will be to blame the other side of some form of retardation, and that's fine but doesn't forward anything in regards to critical thinking and progress. The reason both sides are able to debate the-blame-lies-where?!?! is because both sides are in on it and beholden to similar interests.

    To have any sort of honesty in conversation we, as a country, in order to rebuild and restructure, need to reject both platforms and this is strictly in-terms of ethics. They put money first, country last.

    Pitting one side vs. the other is a futile exercise, it keeps you busy and content.

    Do you think Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity care about conservatives>? That's why Sean Talks about Handbags, looking at a butt, and Rush comments that Obama throws like a girl? Really? This is what passes muster? Olbermann making fun of Bush's word mis-pronunciation? Really?

    Do you wonder why 80% of the country doesn't give a flying fuck about politics and is just content to be along for the ride? Because people in politics are playing this side vs. side immature my team is better than your team bullshit, and most citizens don't have the time of fucking day for that baby bullshit.
     
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    G.T. - There is some merit to what you have said. Truth of the matter is there isn't a single politician in Washington that is worth enough gun powder to blow him or her up. All the incumbents need to be tossed out on their ear and some new faces (either democrat or republican) put into their slot so some new ideas and views can surface. Until that happens we are going to continue to go down the path of stupidity that the democrats are so merrily leading us. Obama is very bad news for this country. He, and that wonderful group of idiots that support him are going to ruin this country. If you think it's getting bad now, wait and watch what's happening a year from now if he continues to go unchecked.
     
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    I'm not that drastically concerned until the Citizenry (of a-political persons, not political like most of you) becomes inspired enough to act. Until then, I will witness your back-and-forth rhetorical game while easily depicting its flaws in logic & maturity. Each side has its crosses to bear but really, the elite are working together and using frivolous wedge-issues to have yourself and others distracted by those circular debates and not focusing against your own (sides) any longer but more-so focused on defending vs. the other side.

    Every time I've ever done a fact-check on Rush, or Sean or the like it's funny. They've totally distorted every single issue they discuss with spin and cannot simply discuss using the actual facts. They omit facts in order to feed the red meat to partisans, and they have worshippers for doing so. See their message-boards for cripe's sakes, people actually believe these clowns and they're laughing all the way to the bank.

    Do you remember Barnie Goldberg taking Sean (his "teammate") to task for focusin on meaningless issues, and Sean denied it up and down? Ok, explain the incessant focus on Michelle's appearance and his entire segment devoted to the "looking at butt gate." He has his fans around his finger and should be fucking ashamed for using their gullability against them.
     
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    Look how the deficit was going DOWN until the Dems got majority control of Congress, vs. what we're seeing today. Handy chart:

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