And here is why you don't civilian trial terrorists from Gitmo

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    Judge bans key witness from detainee's NY trial - Yahoo! News

    The Judge barred the key witness. Not because he was not going to tell the truth, but because they learned of him from harsh interrogation methods.

    The Terrorist was not captured by civilian forces, he was not captured in the United States. He is an enemy combatant. The Judge has no choice but to throw out most of the Governments case. And that is EXACTLY why these cases do not belong in Federal Courts.
     
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    But RGS... the islam lovers and terrorist coddlers were already aware that that shit would happen. That's why they want it. They want to give radical islamists and terrorists all the breaks they can. They need to do what they can to weaken America you know, to appease their America guilt complex.
     
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    Even NOW, despite ALL the warnings that we tried to provide to the idiot liberal Democratics -- especially our tragically ignorant and rather stupid President -- the "commander in Chief" is STILL unlikely to grasp any of this.

    It is beyond pathetic. It is even beyond tragic. It is outright dangerous.

    If we extend the "logic" of the Obama Administration, in the end we will "discover" that the Constitution IS a suicide pact.

    What a jackass.

    Rush got it exactly right. Our President is a jackass.
     
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    I wish I had an answer for how to handle these people. There are no easy answers. Even military tribunals are bound by due process, and that's what we can't give them and still get justice. But the alternative is holding them indefinitely without trial. It would take somebody a lot wiser than either our current or former POTUS to sort this one out. I'm not sure there is an answer.

    On a lighter note, did you read any of the comments to the article? Good god, the amount of disinformation out there is pathetic.
     
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    Sounds more like a case of why you shouldn't torture people.
     
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    Thank you George W. Bush for this clusterfuck.
     
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    Good point. Law enforcement doesn't, military doesn't, but this guy and most of the others went through CIA - which apparently does, or at least did.

    But now what do you do with the people for whom it's too late?
     
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    You follow the rule of law, like what was done in this case. It's a shame, because many of them probably are terrorists, but that doesn't change the law.
     
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    And you believe this no longer happens?
     
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    Ultimately you're probably right - on both counts. It wouldn't matter where they're tried, the end result would be the same. We simply do not have a special CIA court that is allowed to make evidentiary exceptions for "special" CIA methods. But what a mess, it's lose-lose for us no matter what we do with it.
     

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