iamwhatiseem
Diamond Member
First of all, let me say I am not against anything that works well despite whose idea it is, or whether other conservatives like or dislike it, nor whether it was a Democrat or Republican idea.
Believe it or not, this is how America USE to operate. Mostly.
Private/company provided healthcare insurance is broke as fuck people. PERIOD.
It costs way too much, covers way too little, has way too high deductibles and many plans are now even reducing the copay to 70/30. (without lowering the premium)
Other companies are reducing/removing wellness incentives. Most people pay and pay and pay and get next to nothing from their plans due to extremely high deductibles. What good is paying $500-$800 a month for insurance when you rarely, if ever get to use it??
For the first two decades of my working career, our deductible was $500 per person. That was the norm for many years. As well as copay for most was either 80/20 or 90/10. At the beginning of the 2000's the deductible got higher and higher and higher. Premiums going up 5%, 7% a year.
Never did I ever think for 2 people I would be paying $576/mo for an 80/20 plan with a $2500/person - $5000 overall deductible. 20 years ago I paid close to half that for a family of 4 with $750/person deductible. WHAT CHANGED?? Why did it work then, and not now??
So then, why not Medicare for all? Or some other form of single payer?
My problems with it
1) It would be ran by the federal government. We are in-arguably no longer a Democratic Republic. We are a Corporatocracy. The federal government by a VERY large margin is more interested in providing representation to big money/special interest than you and I. BOTH parties. It isn't even close.
So why would I support a plan that puts these fuckers in charge of my healthcare? I guarantee they will screw it up. It will most certainly NOT improve our healthcare services. These useless corrupt pinheads can't work together to replace a roll of toilet paper without finger pointing and pointless arguments - let alone operate the world largest healthcare plan. Seriously.
2) I doubt it would be cheaper. Despite what Bernie says.
3) It would be egregiously unfair. Useless, lazy assholes would get the same services as I do but they won't pay a single penny for it! Not one dime. It would become a colossal entitlement expense that YOU and I would have to pay for. I have a problem with that.
Discuss
Believe it or not, this is how America USE to operate. Mostly.
Private/company provided healthcare insurance is broke as fuck people. PERIOD.
It costs way too much, covers way too little, has way too high deductibles and many plans are now even reducing the copay to 70/30. (without lowering the premium)
Other companies are reducing/removing wellness incentives. Most people pay and pay and pay and get next to nothing from their plans due to extremely high deductibles. What good is paying $500-$800 a month for insurance when you rarely, if ever get to use it??
For the first two decades of my working career, our deductible was $500 per person. That was the norm for many years. As well as copay for most was either 80/20 or 90/10. At the beginning of the 2000's the deductible got higher and higher and higher. Premiums going up 5%, 7% a year.
Never did I ever think for 2 people I would be paying $576/mo for an 80/20 plan with a $2500/person - $5000 overall deductible. 20 years ago I paid close to half that for a family of 4 with $750/person deductible. WHAT CHANGED?? Why did it work then, and not now??
So then, why not Medicare for all? Or some other form of single payer?
My problems with it
1) It would be ran by the federal government. We are in-arguably no longer a Democratic Republic. We are a Corporatocracy. The federal government by a VERY large margin is more interested in providing representation to big money/special interest than you and I. BOTH parties. It isn't even close.
So why would I support a plan that puts these fuckers in charge of my healthcare? I guarantee they will screw it up. It will most certainly NOT improve our healthcare services. These useless corrupt pinheads can't work together to replace a roll of toilet paper without finger pointing and pointless arguments - let alone operate the world largest healthcare plan. Seriously.
2) I doubt it would be cheaper. Despite what Bernie says.
3) It would be egregiously unfair. Useless, lazy assholes would get the same services as I do but they won't pay a single penny for it! Not one dime. It would become a colossal entitlement expense that YOU and I would have to pay for. I have a problem with that.
Discuss
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