An excellent explanation of left and right, and how the left must lie about it.

[bripat9643]

There is no difference between authoritarian dictatorships on either end of the political spectrum. The right wing dictators in South America began a reign of terror by murdering all opposition leadership, in broad daylight and in public view, to silence the liberal movement. It worked. Political leaders, lawyer, and university professors were all tortured and murdered. It was no different than Stalin or Mao. All were corrupt and murdered their people at will.

There is no authoritarian nation in the world doing well economically. NONE.

The authoritarian dictatorships are all on the same end of the spectrum, douche nozzle.

 

[BS Filter]

Garbage. Total and complete garbage and lies. Fascism is and always has been a far right extremist political movement which includes hyper-patriotism, white nationalism, the demonization of "others", and misogyny.


Your desperation and denial are pathetic.

Your ignorance is beyond pathetic. Silencing people is fascistic and the left continually attempts to silence opposing views. Period.

 

[BS Filter]

There is no difference between authoritarian dictatorships on either end of the political spectrum. The right wing dictators in South America began a reign of terror by murdering all opposition leadership, in broad daylight and in public view, to silence the liberal movement. It worked. Political leaders, lawyer, and university professors were all tortured and murdered. It was no different than Stalin or Mao. All were corrupt and murdered their people at will.

There is no authoritarian nation in the world doing well economically. NONE.

If you could fire up the ovens and get by with it, you would do it immediately.

 

[BS Filter]

Not in the slightest. Hitler was never a socialist, and hated communists. He only signed peace agreement with Stalin to keep from worrying about attack from the rear.


I've cracked hundreds of books on history, economics and the history of WWII that you would be well advised to read. You might look at what happened in South American after the CIA installed right wing dictatorships there in the 1970's, and the governments went hat in hand to the IMF and the World Bank.

Next time you crack a history book try reading it first.

 

[g5000]

Yeah, he was.......

Read A Pile Of Top Nazis Talking About How They Love Leftist Marxism

The Nazis were leftists. This statement is blasphemy to the academic-media complex, since everyone knows the Nazis were degenerate right-wingers fueled by toxic capitalism and racism. But evidence Adolf Hitler’s gang were men of the left, while debatable, is compelling.
The dispute on Nazi origins resurfaced through the confluence of brawling alt-right and antifa fringe movements and recent alternative histories by Dinesh D’Souza and others. The vitriol and lack of candor it produces from supposedly fact-driven academics and media is disturbing, if unsurprising. They stifle dissent on touchy subjects to maintain their narrative and enforce cultural hegemony.

However uncomfortable to opinion shapers, alternative views of the Third Reich exist and were written by the finest minds of their time. Opinions from the period perhaps carry more weight because they are unburdened by the aftermath of the uniquely heinous Nazi crimes.
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Also, Adolf Hitler Loved Karl Marx
It wasn’t only theoretical. Hitler repeatedly praised Marx privately, stating he had “learned a great deal from Marxism.” The trouble with the Weimar Republic, he said, was that its politicians “had never even read Marx.” He also stated his differences with communists were that they were intellectual types passing out pamphlets, whereas “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun.”

It wasn’t just privately that Hitler’s fealty for Marx surfaced. In “Mein Kampf,” he states that without his racial insights National Socialism “would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground.” Nor did Hitler eschew this sentiment once reaching power. As late as 1941, with the war in bloom, he stated “basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same” in a speech published by the Royal Institute of International Affairs.

Nazi propaganda minister and resident intellectual Joseph Goebbels wrote in his diary that the Nazis would install “real socialism” after Russia’s defeat in the East. And Hitler favorite Albert Speer, the Nazi armaments minister whose memoir became an international bestseller, wrote that Hitler viewed Joseph Stalin as a kindred spirit, ensuring his prisoner of war son received good treatment, and even talked of keeping Stalin in power in a puppet government after Germany’s eventual triumph. His views on Great Britain’s Winston Churchill and the United States’s Franklin Delano Roosevelt were decidedly less kind.

Nazi and Communist Hatred of Each Other Was Brotherly
Despite this, there’s a persistent claim that Nazis and communists hated each other, and mention that the Nazis persecuted socialists and oppressed trade unions. These things are true, but prove little. The camps’ hatred stemmed from familiarity. It was internecine, the nastiest kind.

The Nazis and communists were not only in a struggle for street-war supremacy, but also recruits. These recruits were easily turned, because both sides were fighting for the same men. Hayek recalls

Again, anyone who has read Mein Kampf will have no doubt Hitler was a right winger.

In Europe, there is no doubt Hitler was right wing. Americans who say Hitler was left wing are considered profoundly ignorant, and rightly so.

Just as your "sources" take Hitler out of context to falsely "prove" he was a Marxist, I could do the same to show he was a capitalist.

Yes, Hitler and the Commies were fighting for the souls of the same men. DUH! Anyone who knows the history of the period between WWI and WWII knows about the fights in the streets of Germany between the Reds and the Nazis. They were OPPONENTS on opposite sides of the political spectrum, moron.

You are also probably ignorant of the fact the exact same thing was happening here in America during the Great Depression.

I gave you direct quotes from the mouth of Hitler himself, and yet you continue to strive to maintain your delusion.

Once again:

That is the point when I saw two dangers approaching. Previously, I did not truly understand their names or their importance to the German people’s existence. Their names were Marxism and Jewry.

 

[BS Filter]

Again, anyone who has read Mein Kampf will have no doubt Hitler was a right winger.

In Europe, there is no doubt Hitler was right wing. Americans who say Hitler was left wing are considered profoundly ignorant, and rightly so.

Just as your "sources" take Hitler out of context to falsely "prove" he was a Marxist, I could do the same to show he was a capitalist.

Yes, Hitler and the Commies were fighting for the souls of the same men. DUH! Anyone who knows the history of the period between WWI and WWII knows about the fights in the streets of Germany between the Reds and the Nazis. They were OPPONENTS on opposite sides of the political spectrum, moron.

You are also probably ignorant of the fact the exact same thing was happening here in America during the Great Depression.

I gave you direct quotes from the mouth of Hitler himself, and yet you continue to strive to maintain your delusion.

Once again:

That is the point when I saw two dangers approaching. Previously, I did not truly understand their names or their importance to the German people’s existence. Their names were Marxism and Jewry.

The word "Nazi" is acronym. What does it mean when spelled out?

 

[BS Filter]

Those Damned Nazis (1932)

A translation of a widely-distributed 1932 Nazi propaganda pamphlet.

research.calvin.edu

 

[2aguy]

Again, anyone who has read Mein Kampf will have no doubt Hitler was a right winger.

In Europe, there is no doubt Hitler was right wing. Americans who say Hitler was left wing are considered profoundly ignorant, and rightly so.

Just as your "sources" take Hitler out of context to falsely "prove" he was a Marxist, I could do the same to show he was a capitalist.

Yes, Hitler and the Commies were fighting for the souls of the same men. DUH! Anyone who knows the history of the period between WWI and WWII knows about the fights in the streets of Germany between the Reds and the Nazis. They were OPPONENTS on opposite sides of the political spectrum, moron.

You are also probably ignorant of the fact the exact same thing was happening here in America during the Great Depression.

I gave you direct quotes from the mouth of Hitler himself, and yet you continue to strive to maintain your delusion.

Once again:

That is the point when I saw two dangers approaching. Previously, I did not truly understand their names or their importance to the German people’s existence. Their names were Marxism and Jewry.

And, you dope, I gave you what the national socialists actually did.......not what hitler wrote, what he actually did when he was in power.....you moron...


The Myth of "Nazi Capitalism" | Chris Calton

German socialism, as Mises defines it, differs from what he called “socialism of the Russian pattern” in that “it, seemingly and nominally, maintains private ownership of the means of production, entrepreneurship, and market exchange.” However, this is only a superficial system of private ownership because through a complete system of economic intervention and control, the entrepreneurial function of the property owners is completely controlled by the State. By this, Mises means that shop owners do not speculate about future events for the purpose of allocating resources in the pursuit of profits. Just like in the Soviet Union, this entrepreneurial speculation and resource allocation is done by a single entity, the State, and economic calculation is thus impossible.

“In Nazi Germany,” Mises tells us, the property owners “were called shop managers or Betriebsführer. The government tells these seeming entrepreneurs what and how to produce, at what prices and from whom to buy, at what prices and to whom to sell.


The government decrees at what wages labourers should work, and to whom and under what terms the capitalists should entrust their funds.


Market exchange is but a sham. As all prices, wages and interest rates are fixed by the authority, they are prices, wages and interest rates in appearance only; in fact they are merely quantitative terms in the authoritarian orders determining each citizen’s income, consumption and standard of living. The authority, not the consumers, directs production.


The central board of production management is supreme; all citizens are nothing else but civil servants. This is socialism with the outward appearance of capitalism. Some labels of the capitalistic market economy are retained, but they signify here something entirely different from what they mean in the market economy.”

Nazism is Socialism -- F A Hayek, et al

One of the main reasons why the socialist character of National Socialism has been quite generally unrecognized, is, no doubt, its alliance with the nationalist groups which represent the great industries and the great landowners. But this merely proves that these groups too -as they have since learnt to their bitter disappointment -have, at least partly, been mistaken as to the nature of the movement. But only partly because -and this is the most characteristic feature of modern Germany – many capitalists are themselves strongly influenced by socialistic ideas, and have not sufficient belief in capitalism to defend it with a clear conscience. But, in spite of this, the German entrepreneur class have manifested almost incredible short-sightedness in allying themselves with a move movement of whose strong anti-capitalistic tendencies there should never have been any doubt.

A careful observer must always have been aware that the opposition of the Nazis to the established socialist parties, which gained them the sympathy of the entrepreneur, was only to a very small extend directed against their economic policy. What the Nazis mainly objected to was their internationalism and all the aspects of their cultural programme which were still influenced by liberal ideas. But the accusations against the social-democrats and the communists which were most effective in their propaganda were not so much directed against their programme as against their supposed practice -their corruption and nepotism, and even their alleged alliance with “the golden International of Jewish Capitalism.”

It would, indeed, hardly have been possible for the Nationalists to advance fundamental objections to the economic policy of the other socialist parties when their own published programme differed from these only in that its socialism was much cruder and less rational. The famous 25 points drawn up by Herr Feder,[2] one of Hitler’s early allies, repeatedly endorsed by Hitler and recognized by the by-laws of the National-Socialist party as the immutable basis of all its actions, which together with an extensive commentary is circulating throughout Germany in many hundreds of thousands of copies, is full of ideas resembling those of the early socialists. But the dominant feature is a fierce hatred of anything capitalistic -individualistic profit seeking, large scale enterprise, banks, joint-stock companies, department stores, “international finance and loan capital,” the system of “interest slavery” in general; the abolition of these is described as the “[indecipherable] of the programme, around which everything else turns.” It was to this programme that the masses of the German people, who were already completely under the influence of collectivist ideas, responded so enthusiastically.

That this violent anti-capitalistic attack is genuine – and not a mere piece of propaganda – becomes as clear from the personal history of the intellectual leaders of the movement as from the general milieu from which it springs. It is not even denied that man of the young men who today play a prominent part in it have previously been communists or socialists. And to any observer of the literary tendencies which made the Germans intelligentsia ready to join the ranks of the new party, it must be clear that the common characteristic of all the politically influential writers – in many cases free from definite party affiliations – was their anti-liberal and anti-capitalist trend. Groups like that formed around the review “Die Tat” have made the phrase “the end of capitalism” an accepted dogma to most young Germans.[3]

 

[2aguy]

There is no difference between authoritarian dictatorships on either end of the political spectrum. The right wing dictators in South America began a reign of terror by murdering all opposition leadership, in broad daylight and in public view, to silence the liberal movement. It worked. Political leaders, lawyer, and university professors were all tortured and murdered. It was no different than Stalin or Mao. All were corrupt and murdered their people at will.

There is no authoritarian nation in the world doing well economically. NONE.

Wrong...you idiot........the political spectrum is total anarchy on the Right, since the Right represents the reduction of government, and totalitarian control on the left...which represents bigger, all controlling government...you doofus.

The socialists in Latin America have destroyed that region........

 

[2aguy]

Again, anyone who has read Mein Kampf will have no doubt Hitler was a right winger.

In Europe, there is no doubt Hitler was right wing. Americans who say Hitler was left wing are considered profoundly ignorant, and rightly so.

Just as your "sources" take Hitler out of context to falsely "prove" he was a Marxist, I could do the same to show he was a capitalist.

Yes, Hitler and the Commies were fighting for the souls of the same men. DUH! Anyone who knows the history of the period between WWI and WWII knows about the fights in the streets of Germany between the Reds and the Nazis. They were OPPONENTS on opposite sides of the political spectrum, moron.

You are also probably ignorant of the fact the exact same thing was happening here in America during the Great Depression.

I gave you direct quotes from the mouth of Hitler himself, and yet you continue to strive to maintain your delusion.

Once again:

That is the point when I saw two dangers approaching. Previously, I did not truly understand their names or their importance to the German people’s existence. Their names were Marxism and Jewry.

Who said hitler was a Marxist...you idiot......he was a fan of Marx, but didn't buy into the international part of the international socialists....

Nazis Were Not Marxists, but They Were Socialists | Jörg Guido Hülsmann

Nazis and marx..

Read A Pile Of Top Nazis Talking About How They Love Leftist Marxism

The Nazis were leftists. This statement is blasphemy to the academic-media complex, since everyone knows the Nazis were degenerate right-wingers fueled by toxic capitalism and racism. But evidence Adolf Hitler’s gang were men of the left, while debatable, is compelling.
The dispute on Nazi origins resurfaced through the confluence of brawling alt-right and antifa fringe movements and recent alternative histories by Dinesh D’Souza and others. The vitriol and lack of candor it produces from supposedly fact-driven academics and media is disturbing, if unsurprising. They stifle dissent on touchy subjects to maintain their narrative and enforce cultural hegemony.

However uncomfortable to opinion shapers, alternative views of the Third Reich exist and were written by the finest minds of their time. Opinions from the period perhaps carry more weight because they are unburdened by the aftermath of the uniquely heinous Nazi crimes.
------

Also, Adolf Hitler Loved Karl Marx
It wasn’t only theoretical. Hitler repeatedly praised Marx privately, stating he had “learned a great deal from Marxism.” The trouble with the Weimar Republic, he said, was that its politicians “had never even read Marx.”

He also stated his differences with communists were that they were intellectual types passing out pamphlets, whereas “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun.”

It wasn’t just privately that Hitler’s fealty for Marx surfaced.



In “Mein Kampf,” he states that without his racial insights National Socialism “would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground.” Nor did Hitler eschew this sentiment once reaching power. As late as 1941, with the war in bloom, he stated “basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same” in a speech published by the Royal Institute of International Affairs.

Nazi propaganda minister and resident intellectual Joseph Goebbels wrote in his diary that the Nazis would install “real socialism” after Russia’s defeat in the East. And Hitler favorite Albert Speer, the Nazi armaments minister whose memoir became an international bestseller, wrote that Hitler viewed Joseph Stalin as a kindred spirit, ensuring his prisoner of war son received good treatment, and even talked of keeping Stalin in power in a puppet government after Germany’s eventual triumph. His views on Great Britain’s Winston Churchill and the United States’s Franklin Delano Roosevelt were decidedly less kind.

Nazi and Communist Hatred of Each Other Was Brotherly
Despite this, there’s a persistent claim that Nazis and communists hated each other, and mention that the Nazis persecuted socialists and oppressed trade unions. These things are true, but prove little. The camps’ hatred stemmed from familiarity. It was internecine, the nastiest kind.

The Nazis and communists were not only in a struggle for street-war supremacy, but also recruits. These recruits were easily turned, because both sides were fighting for the same men. Hayek recalls

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Not in the slightest. Hitler was never a socialist, and hated communists. He only signed peace agreement with Stalin to keep from worrying about attack from the rear.


I've cracked hundreds of books on history, economics and the history of WWII that you would be well advised to read. You might look at what happened in South American after the CIA installed right wing dictatorships there in the 1970's, and the governments went hat in hand to the IMF and the World Bank.

So Hitler was a small government Libertarian Right Winger? Good to know!

 

[Roadrunner76]

The main tenant of FASCISM is their utter HATRED of the LEFT.

This is why this DISHONEST OP will, under NO circumstances, post the DEFINITION of the term Fascist.

Its just infighting between the Left, just like Pelosi and AOC fight because one is more radical than the other.

Be careful,,,,,,the term FASCISM is being used like the term RACIST and GAY; they imply certain SPECIFIC negative traits like the term "Negro". These are normal words that have been WEAPONIZED BY THE LEFT to control the narrative.

The LEFT is controlled, AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN by the Billionaires since after the French Revolution.

Socialism is a Honeypot being used to mesmerize young people into thinking that a Leftist system would be UTOPIA, when it will really result in a TECHNOCRATIC DICTATORSHIP run by a global elite; DYSTOPIAN HELL

Fascism is just a variation of Communism / Socialism whereby the private sector controls the government. Fascism, Socialism of every stripe, and Communism ALL FAVOR BIG GOVERNMENT AND A POLICE STATE IN ORDER TO FORCE PEOPLE TO ADHERE TO THE UN-NATURAL EDICTS FORCED AT GUNPOINT.

The editors on WIkipedia are lying about the term Fascism; Wikipedia is a mouthpiece for the establishment.

The Nazis were LEFT WING SOCIALISTS and You MUST WATCH "The Soviet Story" on You Tube. Hitler worked directly with Stalin.

QUOTES :

As socialists, we are opponents of the Jews, because we see in the Hebrews the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation's goods. Joseph Goebbels

To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole. Joseph Goebbels


On the RIGHT,,,,,,we have Libertarians and Anarchists where you have NO / LITTLE government and total freedom.

You, like every other young person confuse AUTHORITARIAN DICTATORSHIP with the term FASCISM and even Wikipedia does this to mis-inform you.

The Robber Barrons created Socialism and its every form as the Operating System of the emerging New World Order.
Just study history and look at the various forms of leftist government and the hundreds of Millions of people they murdered. Watch the Soviet Story on you tube.

 

[2aguy]

So Hitler was a small government Libertarian Right Winger? Good to know!

Don't you love how they try to say that as you get less and less government, then, all of a sudden you get totalitarianism........that they are insane is beyond doubt, that they think everyone will play along is just stupid...

 

[bripat9643]

Again, anyone who has read Mein Kampf will have no doubt Hitler was a right winger.

Really? Can you quote something from it that shows he's a right winger? I doubt you have ever read it.

In Europe, there is no doubt Hitler was right wing. Americans who say Hitler was left wing are considered profoundly ignorant, and rightly so.

Well, those Europeans are always right. Of course, there are plenty of Europeans who say he was a leftwinger.

Just as your "sources" take Hitler out of context to falsely "prove" he was a Marxist, I could do the same to show he was a capitalist.

No you can't

Yes, Hitler and the Commies were fighting for the souls of the same men. DUH! Anyone who knows the history of the period between WWI and WWII knows about the fights in the streets of Germany between the Reds and the Nazis. They were OPPONENTS on opposite sides of the political spectrum, moron.

Nope. The were fighting over the same turf, moron.

You are also probably ignorant of the fact the exact same thing was happening here in America during the Great Depression.

True, there were NAZIs and commies fighting each here as well.

I gave you direct quotes from the mouth of Hitler himself, and yet you continue to strive to maintain your delusion.

Once again:

That is the point when I saw two dangers approaching. Previously, I did not truly understand their names or their importance to the German people’s existence. Their names were Marxism and Jewry.

How does that prove he was a capitalist?

You posted on logical fallacy after another. What you haven't posted is any facts that prove Hitler was a capitalist.

 

[Dragonlady]

Wrong. That is not the main tenet of fascism. He was right when he said that commies and fascists always lie.

Well since the leftists in the USA are neither commies or fascists, then by definition, they're not liars. Republicans, who fairly define fascism - hyper-patriotic, racist, misogynistic, and authoritarian, are proven liars.

 

[Dragonlady]

So Hitler was a small government Libertarian Right Winger? Good to know!

Hilter was a fascist (see definition above) dictator. Trump isn't a "small government Libertarian Right Winger" either, nor is the Republican Party promoting any of those things. They're creating a massive intrusive set of laws to be enforced to ensure women don't have abortions.

 

[g5000]

Really? Can you quote something from it that shows he's a right winger? I doubt you have ever read it.

I already posted several quotes from Mein Kampf in this topic, idiot. Not only have you not read Mein Kampf, you haven't even read this topic!

Try to keep up.

 

[bripat9643]

Well since the leftists in the USA are neither commies or fascists, then by definition, they're not liars. Republicans, who fairly define fascism - hyper-patriotic, racist, misogynistic, and authoritarian, are proven liars.

There is little difference between commies and fascists, and lefties are both. Your characterization s of Republicans is a big fat lie, and it doesn't describe fascists.

 

[bripat9643]

I already posted several quotes from Mein Kampf in this topic, idiot. Not only have you not read Mein Kampf, you haven't even read this topic!

Try to keep up.

Those quotes don't support your claim, dumbass.

 

[g5000]

Those quotes don't support your claim, dumbass.

And the tard who didn't even read the topic or Mein Kampf says, "Nuh-uh!"