American Health Care System and Life Expectancy Research

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    Some recent research shows that lower life expectancy or longevity in America when compared to other industrialized nations is not a result of the health care system. This puts some perspective regarding some of the health care rankings which tend to attribute longevity to a country's health care system.
    http://www.nytimes.c...nce/22tier.html
     
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    Well duh. Don't try convincing the libs, though. That individuals are actually greatly respsonible for their outcomes is a true paradox to them.
     
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    Two weeks and no response. Just shows they will ignore this information.
     
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    they just dont believe our lifestyles have anything to do with it.....DUMB.....but what are you going to do?.........
     
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    Very nice of you do decide what we liberals believe, or do not believe. Typical for someone that fails to do any research.

    So that also explains the fact that we also have a third world infant mortality rate? That our death among our young children from childhood respitory diseases is more than 40 times that of Canada's.

    Japan has the highest longevity, France is next, and then comes little Costa Rica. Would you care to compare what each of these nations spend per citizen on health care to what we spend? How about health care as a per centage of their GDP?

    Perhaps their dedication to pro-active care may be a significant factor, also.
     
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    well why did you not answer the question i asked earlier Rocks?....once again playing Fred Astair.....Question....does Americas lifestyle of over eating and being to sedentary have anything to do with the health and longevity of the people of this country?.....
     
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    Actually, I think you need to do more research behind what you are saying here and not automatically attribute certain health statistics to problems with the US health care system. Here is some research for you about infant mortality: Health Status, Health Care and Inequality: Canada vs. the U.S.

    I have taken these quotes from this site, which contains some of the research by NBER: What do high infant mortality rates say about the US health care system? « Free Market Mojo

    This research said that there are “a multitude of behaviors unrelated to the health care system such as substance abuse, smoking and obesity” and that these behaviors are connected “to the low birth weight and preterm births that underlie the infant death syndrome.” They also said that because of their research that “the efficacy of health care systems cannot be usefully evaluated by comparisons of infant mortality and life expectancy”

    Another quote:

    So, we have higher teen pregnancies and we have a greater percentage of people who have unhealthy lifestyles. This goes back to the other research from my original post in this thread.

    By the way, you still have not answered whether Harry was incorrect or not in what he asserted about what liberals believe on this subject. Perhaps you could provide a real answer?
     
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    dont hold your breath Christopher.....Rocks is the representative of this board on the show "Dancing With The Stars".....you might have heard of him.....Fred "Old Rocks" Astaire....
     
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    Looks like these libs just don't want to address the facts....except for one moron.
     
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    No, I won't be holding my breath. I might let out a sigh of exasperation though.
     

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