Edward:
"Actually, conservatives are inherently evil and have been for thousands of years, and they always support tyranny and that is why they met in 1789 in secret in Philadelphia. They were reactionaries and sought to undo the freedom we had obtained in 1776 and they prevailed."
One more reason why you find yourself ignored by those who you are desperately trying to interact with. You, sir, are the Fred Phelps of liberal politics. I understand how conservatives must feel when they vote in common with their far right nutjobs. You have the credibility of Pat Robertson at a GNC.
You, sir, are an asshole and an egocentric bastard (would you like to elect a representative to decide whether you are a motherfucker and deny me or a person of my choice a vote on whether you are a motherfucker). It is because of our your ignorance of my motivations that you think I am trying to interact with people like you. I don't interact with tyrants or anyone who supports the Constitution. In the words of Thomas Jefferson, "Men have differed in opinion and been divided into parties by these opinions from the first origin of societies, and in all governments where they have been permitted freely to think and to speak. The same political parties which now agitate the U.S. have existed through all time. Whether the power of the people or that of the [aristocracy] should prevail were questions which kept the states of Greece and Rome in eternal convulsions, as they now schismatize every people whose minds and mouths are not shut up by the gag of a despot. And in fact the terms of Whig and Tory belong to natural as well as to civil history. They denote the temper and constitution of mind of different individuals."
Today, we refer to them as conservatives and liberals. Conservatives do not trust the people, and they are reactionaries. They are not pleased to see the people having an equal voice in all matters before the government instead preferring a system of government modeled after the British one. Ironically, the liberals of today are in fact of this faction as well. The two major political parties are in reality the same party with minor disagreements yet their core philosophy is the same. They are in fact the party that met in 1789 to draft the Constitution. Those who opposed it slowly fell silent under the threats of death, intimidation, and violence of these reactionaries. They could not stand up to those who wanted to restore the British form of government. The so-called Founding Fathers knew exactly what they were doing when they met to draft and ratify the Constitution and that is why they met in secret. Had they done and said what they did in public they all would have been lynched by the people.
The truth is that we do not govern our own society. Our only right in this country is the right to vote and that isn't the same as the right of self-government. If we are lucky enough to vote for the winner of an election then we get a voice and a vote in the legislature and if we are so unlucky as not to vote for the winner then we are basically told to go home as others make the laws for us. In essence, our right to a voice and an equal vote was voted away in the election and we consent to this because we are ignorant of our rights. We call this freedom when in reality it is not. In regards to my so-called right to vote I say "big fucking deal" just like those who oppposed the Constitution in 1789 said "big fucking deal." The Constitution betrayed the ideals of the Revolution by restoring the British form of government under another name.
Also, I am not a liberal but of course you must label me a liberal because that is what you are all about. You do not want to admit the real reason you don't like what I have said. My opposition to the Constitution as a form of tyranny offends you because it means you would have to admit that you have been a tryant who votes away the rights of others to have an equal say everytime you vote. You do not wish to discuss things with them, you do not wish to sit at their kitchen table, and hold honest and open discussions with people you know and you do not want to vote openly in front of them so they know you for who you really are instead you prefer to force your will upon them and vice versa through secret elections. Voting should be part of every free society but the missing ingredient in ours is that we do not elect people to represent us instead we elect people to represent one faction and the rest must simply wait for the next election in the hope of prevailing against the others. What is wrong with this? Why don't people understand that when one faction or person can vote away the right of another to a vote on the very laws that govern them on election day is tyranny. Like, I have said on several occasions. I have as much of a problem with liberals and Democrats as I do with conservatives and Republicans because of this.
I also don't give a shit if you find me credible asshole because the moment you cast your motherfucking vote you lose credibility with me you fucking mini-tryant who casts your vote to get a vote on the laws of our country and against others having the right to vote on those laws. The electoral system of our country comes down to one thing and that is: THE MAJORITY VOTES AWAY THE RIGHT OF EVERYONE TO HAVE AN EQUAL VOICE AT THE TABLE WITH THEM AND THAT IS TYRANNY. We are simply to accept this because a group of bastards met in 1789 to restore the British form of government. We are simply to go along with it because assholes like you (whether conservatives, liberals or whatever they choose to call themselves) want to have a twisted form of government. Those who warned us about ratifying the Constitution and those who voted to reject it were right about the motivations of the bastards who took it upon themselves to create a system of government based on the conservative (or by whatever name you wish to call them) principles that are now finding their way into even more prominence.
I am sure the bitch Jamie Madison and the cocksucker Alex Hamilton would agree with you because they also attacked the crediblity of those who stood up to their retarded asses and worst they threatened them like the fucking tyrants they were. Learn some history about your fucking founders and what scum they were. It is no wonder they met in secret, and overrode the people of Rhode Island when they rejected their filthy Constitution. Thank God for the Bill of Rights but they wouldn't have given us that either had it not been for the armed men marching on Philadelphia. But of course if I kissed your ass and told you how good and awesome you are and how fucking great I feel for being able to vote one damn day out of the fucking year you would applaud me and find me fucking credible (i.e., your definition of credible is that I agree with your retarded ass and accept your sick form of government King Shogun of the Voterdom of Retardsville). I on the other hand will not do so and do not intend to kiss your ass motherfucker. Instead, I am willing to say what needs to be said and to condem the American Parliment, and the King just like those in 1789 did (the fuckers who supported the Constitution made sure they were barred from attending their special conventions where they made the decision to ratify their constitution and when the people of Rhode Island voted on it they ignored them and held themselve a special convention). I suggest you try learning some history instead of the shit you learn in High School. The truth is that the people of this country did not support the Constitution when it was ratified. We have been sold the greatest lie of all which is that we are now more free than we were before the Constitution was ratified.