Accidental gun deaths...505. Accidental Medical deaths, 250,000.

[M14 Shooter]

We don't all have the same intellectual capabilities. If you're not able to "look up" accidental shootings by children in 2015, have someone do it for you.

In other words... You fully understand that you do not have any valid and verifiable information whatsoever that supports your claim.
I therefore accept your concession of the point.

As for sex ed, sex is inevitable, guns are not.

I ask again:
Why do you wish for children to remain ignorant regarding gun safety?

 

[Jeddahite]

And 1,500,000 million times a year Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack and to save lives.......

Please link your source. It sounds just vague enough to be a good quote. Meanwhile, for those too blase to research teir own arguments:
June 24, 2014

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year. But our analysis of publicly reported gun deaths shows that the federal data substantially undercount these deaths.

Executive Summary
In Asheboro, North Carolina, a 26-year-old mother was cleaning her home when she heard a gunshot. Rushing into the living room, she discovered that her three-year-old son had accidentally shot her boyfriend’s three-year-old daughter with a .22-caliber rifle the parents had left in the room, loaded and unlocked.1

In Fayette County, Pennsylvania, a two-year-old toddler took his stepfather’s pistol out of his mother’s purse and shot himself in the head while the adults were in another room.2 And in northeast Houston, when his mother stepped away for a moment, a five-year-old boy picked up a loaded rifle and accidentally shot his older brother in the back.3

American children are sixteen times more likely to be killed in unintentional shootings than their peers in other high-income countries.

In all three incidents, adults left loaded and unlocked guns easily accessible to children. Miraculously, the children survived their injuries. But in far too many unintentional shootings they do not.

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under died each year in unintentional shootings.4 By this measure, American children are sixteen times more likely to be killed in unintentional shootings than their peers in other high-income countries.5

But our analysis of publicly reported gun deaths in the twelve months after the mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, shows that the federal data substantially undercount these deaths:

• From December 2012 to December 2013, at least 100 children were killed in unintentional shootings — almost two each week, 61 percent higher than federal data reflect. And even this larger number reflects just a fraction of the total number of children injured or killed with guns in the U.S. each year, regardless of the intent.
• About two-thirds of these unintended deaths — 65 percent — took place in a home or vehicle that belonged to the victim’s family, most often with guns that were legally owned but not secured. Another 19 percent took place in the home of a relative or friend of the victim.
• More than two-thirds of these tragedies could be avoided if gun owners stored their guns responsibly and prevented children from accessing them. Of the child shooting deaths in which there was sufficient information available to make the determination, 70 percent (62 of 89 cases) could have been prevented if the firearm had been stored locked and unloaded. By contrast, incidents in which an authorized user mishandled a gun — such as target practice or hunting accidents — constituted less than thirty percent of the incidents.

While our analysis finds these tragedies to be far more common than previously reported, it also gives reason for optimism. First and foremost, it shows that unintentional child gun deaths can be prevented: if fewer gun owners left their guns loaded and unlocked, fewer children would lose their lives.

Second, we provide the first detailed analysis of a twelve-month period of unintentional child deaths across the country — including how the shooters obtained the guns; where the fatal shootings occurred; who pulled the trigger; whether the deaths resulted in criminal charges; and, crucially, whether the deaths could have been avoided if guns were stored safely.

Finally, based on these findings and the existing scientific research, the report presents several ways that we can reduce the number of children killed in unintentional shootings — including enhancing responsible firearm storage by educating gun owners; deterring irresponsible storage practices through child access prevention laws; and fostering new technologies.

It concludes with several recommendations:

• States should adopt stronger laws to prevent children from accessing unsecured guns, by authorizing criminal charges if an adult gun owner stores his or her gun negligently, a child gains access to the firearm, and harm results.
• Congress should appropriate funds for research to improve public health surveillance of unintentional child gun deaths and to develop effective educational materials for promoting safe storage.
• Congress should earmark funding for the Consumer Product Safety Commission to evaluate and set standards for emerging technologies that promote gun safety, such as biometric gun safes.
• Doctors should be allowed and encouraged to promote gun safety, and efforts to gag physicians should be opposed.
• Greater awareness of the issue should be promoted through a national public education campaign enlisting law enforcement, corporate, and non-profit partners.

Background: Unsecured Guns and Unintentional Shootings
Public health research has demonstrated a clear relationship between household firearm ownership, unsafe storage practices, and unintentional shootings.

About a third of American children live in homes with firearms, and of these households, 43 percent contain at least one unlocked firearm. Thirteen percent of households with guns contain at least one firearm that is unlocked and loaded or stored with ammunition.6 In all, more than two million American children live in homes with unsecured guns — and 1.7 million live in homes with guns that are both loaded and unlocked.7

I realize that the knee-jerk knuckle-draggers will instantly discount anything that comes from the federal government. But here are the statistics. Read 'em and weep. I do.

 

[M14 Shooter]

And 1,500,000 million times a year Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack and to save lives.......

Please link your source. It sounds just vague enough to be a good quote. Meanwhile, for those too blase to research teir own arguments:

You mean... you?
YOU made the claim and then refused to back it up with meaningful, verifiable data.

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year.

1999-2006: Total of 554 accidental gun-related deaths ages 0-14 69/yr
2007-2011: Total of 311 accidental gun related deaths, ages 0-14. 62/yr
2012-2014: Total of 177 accidental gun related deaths, aged 0-14 59/yr
1999-2014: Total of 1042 accidental gun-related deaths, aged 0-14: 69/yr

The "many" you claimed is a qualitative statement of comparison - 62/yr is"many" compared to... what?

How many of these accidents would have been avoided had gun safety been taught in schools?

 

[2aguy]

And 1,500,000 million times a year Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack and to save lives.......

Please link your source. It sounds just vague enough to be a good quote. Meanwhile, for those too blase to research teir own arguments:
June 24, 2014

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year. But our analysis of publicly reported gun deaths shows that the federal data substantially undercount these deaths.

Executive Summary
In Asheboro, North Carolina, a 26-year-old mother was cleaning her home when she heard a gunshot. Rushing into the living room, she discovered that her three-year-old son had accidentally shot her boyfriend’s three-year-old daughter with a .22-caliber rifle the parents had left in the room, loaded and unlocked.1

In Fayette County, Pennsylvania, a two-year-old toddler took his stepfather’s pistol out of his mother’s purse and shot himself in the head while the adults were in another room.2 And in northeast Houston, when his mother stepped away for a moment, a five-year-old boy picked up a loaded rifle and accidentally shot his older brother in the back.3

American children are sixteen times more likely to be killed in unintentional shootings than their peers in other high-income countries.

In all three incidents, adults left loaded and unlocked guns easily accessible to children. Miraculously, the children survived their injuries. But in far too many unintentional shootings they do not.

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under died each year in unintentional shootings.4 By this measure, American children are sixteen times more likely to be killed in unintentional shootings than their peers in other high-income countries.5

But our analysis of publicly reported gun deaths in the twelve months after the mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, shows that the federal data substantially undercount these deaths:

• From December 2012 to December 2013, at least 100 children were killed in unintentional shootings — almost two each week, 61 percent higher than federal data reflect. And even this larger number reflects just a fraction of the total number of children injured or killed with guns in the U.S. each year, regardless of the intent.
• About two-thirds of these unintended deaths — 65 percent — took place in a home or vehicle that belonged to the victim’s family, most often with guns that were legally owned but not secured. Another 19 percent took place in the home of a relative or friend of the victim.
• More than two-thirds of these tragedies could be avoided if gun owners stored their guns responsibly and prevented children from accessing them. Of the child shooting deaths in which there was sufficient information available to make the determination, 70 percent (62 of 89 cases) could have been prevented if the firearm had been stored locked and unloaded. By contrast, incidents in which an authorized user mishandled a gun — such as target practice or hunting accidents — constituted less than thirty percent of the incidents.

While our analysis finds these tragedies to be far more common than previously reported, it also gives reason for optimism. First and foremost, it shows that unintentional child gun deaths can be prevented: if fewer gun owners left their guns loaded and unlocked, fewer children would lose their lives.

Second, we provide the first detailed analysis of a twelve-month period of unintentional child deaths across the country — including how the shooters obtained the guns; where the fatal shootings occurred; who pulled the trigger; whether the deaths resulted in criminal charges; and, crucially, whether the deaths could have been avoided if guns were stored safely.

Finally, based on these findings and the existing scientific research, the report presents several ways that we can reduce the number of children killed in unintentional shootings — including enhancing responsible firearm storage by educating gun owners; deterring irresponsible storage practices through child access prevention laws; and fostering new technologies.

It concludes with several recommendations:

• States should adopt stronger laws to prevent children from accessing unsecured guns, by authorizing criminal charges if an adult gun owner stores his or her gun negligently, a child gains access to the firearm, and harm results.
• Congress should appropriate funds for research to improve public health surveillance of unintentional child gun deaths and to develop effective educational materials for promoting safe storage.
• Congress should earmark funding for the Consumer Product Safety Commission to evaluate and set standards for emerging technologies that promote gun safety, such as biometric gun safes.
• Doctors should be allowed and encouraged to promote gun safety, and efforts to gag physicians should be opposed.
• Greater awareness of the issue should be promoted through a national public education campaign enlisting law enforcement, corporate, and non-profit partners.

Background: Unsecured Guns and Unintentional Shootings
Public health research has demonstrated a clear relationship between household firearm ownership, unsafe storage practices, and unintentional shootings.

About a third of American children live in homes with firearms, and of these households, 43 percent contain at least one unlocked firearm. Thirteen percent of households with guns contain at least one firearm that is unlocked and loaded or stored with ammunition.6 In all, more than two million American children live in homes with unsecured guns — and 1.7 million live in homes with guns that are both loaded and unlocked.7

I realize that the knee-jerk knuckle-draggers will instantly discount anything that comes from the federal government. But here are the statistics. Read 'em and weep. I do.

Here you go...

I just averaged the studies......which were conducted by different researchers, from both private and public researchers, over a period of 40 years looking specifically at guns and self defense....the name of the researcher is first, then the year then the number of times they determined guns were used for self defense......notice how many of them there are and how many of them were done by gun grabbers like the clinton Justice Dept. and the obama CDC

And these aren't all of the studies either...there are more...and they support the ones below.....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

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If you take the studies from that Kleck cites in his paper, 16 of them....and you only average the ones that exclude military and police shootings..the average becomes 2 million...I use those studies because I have the details on them...and they are still 10 studies (including Kleck's)....

 

[2aguy]

And 1,500,000 million times a year Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack and to save lives.......

Please link your source. It sounds just vague enough to be a good quote. Meanwhile, for those too blase to research teir own arguments:
June 24, 2014

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year. But our analysis of publicly reported gun deaths shows that the federal data substantially undercount these deaths.

Executive Summary
In Asheboro, North Carolina, a 26-year-old mother was cleaning her home when she heard a gunshot. Rushing into the living room, she discovered that her three-year-old son had accidentally shot her boyfriend’s three-year-old daughter with a .22-caliber rifle the parents had left in the room, loaded and unlocked.1

In Fayette County, Pennsylvania, a two-year-old toddler took his stepfather’s pistol out of his mother’s purse and shot himself in the head while the adults were in another room.2 And in northeast Houston, when his mother stepped away for a moment, a five-year-old boy picked up a loaded rifle and accidentally shot his older brother in the back.3

American children are sixteen times more likely to be killed in unintentional shootings than their peers in other high-income countries.

In all three incidents, adults left loaded and unlocked guns easily accessible to children. Miraculously, the children survived their injuries. But in far too many unintentional shootings they do not.

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under died each year in unintentional shootings.4 By this measure, American children are sixteen times more likely to be killed in unintentional shootings than their peers in other high-income countries.5

But our analysis of publicly reported gun deaths in the twelve months after the mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, shows that the federal data substantially undercount these deaths:

• From December 2012 to December 2013, at least 100 children were killed in unintentional shootings — almost two each week, 61 percent higher than federal data reflect. And even this larger number reflects just a fraction of the total number of children injured or killed with guns in the U.S. each year, regardless of the intent.
• About two-thirds of these unintended deaths — 65 percent — took place in a home or vehicle that belonged to the victim’s family, most often with guns that were legally owned but not secured. Another 19 percent took place in the home of a relative or friend of the victim.
• More than two-thirds of these tragedies could be avoided if gun owners stored their guns responsibly and prevented children from accessing them. Of the child shooting deaths in which there was sufficient information available to make the determination, 70 percent (62 of 89 cases) could have been prevented if the firearm had been stored locked and unloaded. By contrast, incidents in which an authorized user mishandled a gun — such as target practice or hunting accidents — constituted less than thirty percent of the incidents.

While our analysis finds these tragedies to be far more common than previously reported, it also gives reason for optimism. First and foremost, it shows that unintentional child gun deaths can be prevented: if fewer gun owners left their guns loaded and unlocked, fewer children would lose their lives.

Second, we provide the first detailed analysis of a twelve-month period of unintentional child deaths across the country — including how the shooters obtained the guns; where the fatal shootings occurred; who pulled the trigger; whether the deaths resulted in criminal charges; and, crucially, whether the deaths could have been avoided if guns were stored safely.

Finally, based on these findings and the existing scientific research, the report presents several ways that we can reduce the number of children killed in unintentional shootings — including enhancing responsible firearm storage by educating gun owners; deterring irresponsible storage practices through child access prevention laws; and fostering new technologies.

It concludes with several recommendations:

• States should adopt stronger laws to prevent children from accessing unsecured guns, by authorizing criminal charges if an adult gun owner stores his or her gun negligently, a child gains access to the firearm, and harm results.
• Congress should appropriate funds for research to improve public health surveillance of unintentional child gun deaths and to develop effective educational materials for promoting safe storage.
• Congress should earmark funding for the Consumer Product Safety Commission to evaluate and set standards for emerging technologies that promote gun safety, such as biometric gun safes.
• Doctors should be allowed and encouraged to promote gun safety, and efforts to gag physicians should be opposed.
• Greater awareness of the issue should be promoted through a national public education campaign enlisting law enforcement, corporate, and non-profit partners.

Background: Unsecured Guns and Unintentional Shootings
Public health research has demonstrated a clear relationship between household firearm ownership, unsafe storage practices, and unintentional shootings.

About a third of American children live in homes with firearms, and of these households, 43 percent contain at least one unlocked firearm. Thirteen percent of households with guns contain at least one firearm that is unlocked and loaded or stored with ammunition.6 In all, more than two million American children live in homes with unsecured guns — and 1.7 million live in homes with guns that are both loaded and unlocked.7

I realize that the knee-jerk knuckle-draggers will instantly discount anything that comes from the federal government. But here are the statistics. Read 'em and weep. I do.

Yeah...I call bullshit......you fail to provide the actual link to this........need to do that...which anti gun researcher posted this?

From the CDC....with an actual link....

And the key thing....the anti gunners take the age range of "child" very loosely........in some studies they include the age 25 as a child....foolishly taking the CDC stat that gives the age group 15-25 and they don't break it down any further......check it at the CDC final death stats table 10....

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Here are the stats on some common types of death....it would be better to start a crusade to teach people how to walk upright...and save them from falling deaths...you would save more lives.....

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

guns, drowning and poisoning....

If you cared about people....you would push to ban the following...


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Accidental gun deaths 2013......505

Accidental gun deaths of children under 14 in 2013....in a country with 74.2 million children in 2010...

Under 1 year old: 3

1-4 years old: 27

5-14 years old: 39

Total: 69 ( in a country of 320 million people)
Gun Suicide: 21,175
Non gun suicide: 19,974



http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_09.pdf

Then by year accidental gun deaths going down according to CDC final statistics table 10 from 2010-2013...

2010...606
2011...591
2012...548
2013...505
So...accidental gun deaths have been coming down as more people own and carry guns for self defense....now 13 million people actually carry guns for self defense......on their person, and the accidental gun death rate is going down, not up....

 

[HUGGY]

To put a little perspective on the issue of which is more dangerous, guns or Doctors...even if you add intentional, illegal use of guns you get 8,124 gun murders in 2014.........you still don't come anywhere near the danger Doctors pose to their patients...

Blog: Medical errors now the 3rd leading cause of death in the US

A study published in the prominent medical journal BMJ concluded that errors by doctors and hospitals kills more than 250,000 people a year in the US. That's more than strokes, respiratory disease, and Alzheimers.

Why do you continue to use 505 when it dramatically increased to 586 the next year?

How many people would die without doctors?

You continue to post the most crazy stuff. Bravo.

We have a Constitutional right to own guns. NOT to own doctors!!!

 

[2aguy]

And 1,500,000 million times a year Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack and to save lives.......

Please link your source. It sounds just vague enough to be a good quote. Meanwhile, for those too blase to research teir own arguments:
June 24, 2014

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year. But our analysis of publicly reported gun deaths shows that the federal data substantially undercount these deaths.

Executive Summary
In Asheboro, North Carolina, a 26-year-old mother was cleaning her home when she heard a gunshot. Rushing into the living room, she discovered that her three-year-old son had accidentally shot her boyfriend’s three-year-old daughter with a .22-caliber rifle the parents had left in the room, loaded and unlocked.1

In Fayette County, Pennsylvania, a two-year-old toddler took his stepfather’s pistol out of his mother’s purse and shot himself in the head while the adults were in another room.2 And in northeast Houston, when his mother stepped away for a moment, a five-year-old boy picked up a loaded rifle and accidentally shot his older brother in the back.3

American children are sixteen times more likely to be killed in unintentional shootings than their peers in other high-income countries.

In all three incidents, adults left loaded and unlocked guns easily accessible to children. Miraculously, the children survived their injuries. But in far too many unintentional shootings they do not.

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under died each year in unintentional shootings.4 By this measure, American children are sixteen times more likely to be killed in unintentional shootings than their peers in other high-income countries.5

But our analysis of publicly reported gun deaths in the twelve months after the mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, shows that the federal data substantially undercount these deaths:

• From December 2012 to December 2013, at least 100 children were killed in unintentional shootings — almost two each week, 61 percent higher than federal data reflect. And even this larger number reflects just a fraction of the total number of children injured or killed with guns in the U.S. each year, regardless of the intent.
• About two-thirds of these unintended deaths — 65 percent — took place in a home or vehicle that belonged to the victim’s family, most often with guns that were legally owned but not secured. Another 19 percent took place in the home of a relative or friend of the victim.
• More than two-thirds of these tragedies could be avoided if gun owners stored their guns responsibly and prevented children from accessing them. Of the child shooting deaths in which there was sufficient information available to make the determination, 70 percent (62 of 89 cases) could have been prevented if the firearm had been stored locked and unloaded. By contrast, incidents in which an authorized user mishandled a gun — such as target practice or hunting accidents — constituted less than thirty percent of the incidents.

While our analysis finds these tragedies to be far more common than previously reported, it also gives reason for optimism. First and foremost, it shows that unintentional child gun deaths can be prevented: if fewer gun owners left their guns loaded and unlocked, fewer children would lose their lives.

Second, we provide the first detailed analysis of a twelve-month period of unintentional child deaths across the country — including how the shooters obtained the guns; where the fatal shootings occurred; who pulled the trigger; whether the deaths resulted in criminal charges; and, crucially, whether the deaths could have been avoided if guns were stored safely.

Finally, based on these findings and the existing scientific research, the report presents several ways that we can reduce the number of children killed in unintentional shootings — including enhancing responsible firearm storage by educating gun owners; deterring irresponsible storage practices through child access prevention laws; and fostering new technologies.

It concludes with several recommendations:

• States should adopt stronger laws to prevent children from accessing unsecured guns, by authorizing criminal charges if an adult gun owner stores his or her gun negligently, a child gains access to the firearm, and harm results.
• Congress should appropriate funds for research to improve public health surveillance of unintentional child gun deaths and to develop effective educational materials for promoting safe storage.
• Congress should earmark funding for the Consumer Product Safety Commission to evaluate and set standards for emerging technologies that promote gun safety, such as biometric gun safes.
• Doctors should be allowed and encouraged to promote gun safety, and efforts to gag physicians should be opposed.
• Greater awareness of the issue should be promoted through a national public education campaign enlisting law enforcement, corporate, and non-profit partners.

Background: Unsecured Guns and Unintentional Shootings
Public health research has demonstrated a clear relationship between household firearm ownership, unsafe storage practices, and unintentional shootings.

About a third of American children live in homes with firearms, and of these households, 43 percent contain at least one unlocked firearm. Thirteen percent of households with guns contain at least one firearm that is unlocked and loaded or stored with ammunition.6 In all, more than two million American children live in homes with unsecured guns — and 1.7 million live in homes with guns that are both loaded and unlocked.7

I realize that the knee-jerk knuckle-draggers will instantly discount anything that comes from the federal government. But here are the statistics. Read 'em and weep. I do.

and see this is where the lie starts........

• From December 2012 to December 2013, at least 100 children were killed in unintentional shootings — almost two each week, 61 percent higher than federal data reflect.And even this larger number reflects just a fraction of the total number of children injured or killed with guns in the U.S. each year, regardless of the intent.

Notice the one thing they don't do.......they don't list the ages of the children.......which is how they boost their numbers.........a 16 year old gang member is not a "child" in any way we think of a normal child..........and notice how they dropped the term...." by a gun legally owned." Another slight of hand to hide the actual truth...

 

[Jeddahite]

2aguy, I salute you. You obviously have more time than I have. I'll accept your figures. However, they have nothing to do with the number of children who shoot a gun, accidentally because adults don't practice gun safety. Gun safety is not the same as gun restriction. Why can't you people understand that? Gun safety has nothing to do with medical malpractice or knife attacks or pool drownings or sex ed. It's about adults taking the time to protect their own children, if no one else's!

 

[Rustic]

And 1,500,000 million times a year Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack and to save lives.......

Please link your source. It sounds just vague enough to be a good quote. Meanwhile, for those too blase to research teir own arguments:
June 24, 2014

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year. But our analysis of publicly reported gun deaths shows that the federal data substantially undercount these deaths.

Executive Summary
In Asheboro, North Carolina, a 26-year-old mother was cleaning her home when she heard a gunshot. Rushing into the living room, she discovered that her three-year-old son had accidentally shot her boyfriend’s three-year-old daughter with a .22-caliber rifle the parents had left in the room, loaded and unlocked.1

In Fayette County, Pennsylvania, a two-year-old toddler took his stepfather’s pistol out of his mother’s purse and shot himself in the head while the adults were in another room.2 And in northeast Houston, when his mother stepped away for a moment, a five-year-old boy picked up a loaded rifle and accidentally shot his older brother in the back.3

American children are sixteen times more likely to be killed in unintentional shootings than their peers in other high-income countries.

In all three incidents, adults left loaded and unlocked guns easily accessible to children. Miraculously, the children survived their injuries. But in far too many unintentional shootings they do not.

Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under died each year in unintentional shootings.4 By this measure, American children are sixteen times more likely to be killed in unintentional shootings than their peers in other high-income countries.5

But our analysis of publicly reported gun deaths in the twelve months after the mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, shows that the federal data substantially undercount these deaths:

• From December 2012 to December 2013, at least 100 children were killed in unintentional shootings — almost two each week, 61 percent higher than federal data reflect. And even this larger number reflects just a fraction of the total number of children injured or killed with guns in the U.S. each year, regardless of the intent.
• About two-thirds of these unintended deaths — 65 percent — took place in a home or vehicle that belonged to the victim’s family, most often with guns that were legally owned but not secured. Another 19 percent took place in the home of a relative or friend of the victim.
• More than two-thirds of these tragedies could be avoided if gun owners stored their guns responsibly and prevented children from accessing them. Of the child shooting deaths in which there was sufficient information available to make the determination, 70 percent (62 of 89 cases) could have been prevented if the firearm had been stored locked and unloaded. By contrast, incidents in which an authorized user mishandled a gun — such as target practice or hunting accidents — constituted less than thirty percent of the incidents.

While our analysis finds these tragedies to be far more common than previously reported, it also gives reason for optimism. First and foremost, it shows that unintentional child gun deaths can be prevented: if fewer gun owners left their guns loaded and unlocked, fewer children would lose their lives.

Second, we provide the first detailed analysis of a twelve-month period of unintentional child deaths across the country — including how the shooters obtained the guns; where the fatal shootings occurred; who pulled the trigger; whether the deaths resulted in criminal charges; and, crucially, whether the deaths could have been avoided if guns were stored safely.

Finally, based on these findings and the existing scientific research, the report presents several ways that we can reduce the number of children killed in unintentional shootings — including enhancing responsible firearm storage by educating gun owners; deterring irresponsible storage practices through child access prevention laws; and fostering new technologies.

It concludes with several recommendations:

• States should adopt stronger laws to prevent children from accessing unsecured guns, by authorizing criminal charges if an adult gun owner stores his or her gun negligently, a child gains access to the firearm, and harm results.
• Congress should appropriate funds for research to improve public health surveillance of unintentional child gun deaths and to develop effective educational materials for promoting safe storage.
• Congress should earmark funding for the Consumer Product Safety Commission to evaluate and set standards for emerging technologies that promote gun safety, such as biometric gun safes.
• Doctors should be allowed and encouraged to promote gun safety, and efforts to gag physicians should be opposed.
• Greater awareness of the issue should be promoted through a national public education campaign enlisting law enforcement, corporate, and non-profit partners.

Background: Unsecured Guns and Unintentional Shootings
Public health research has demonstrated a clear relationship between household firearm ownership, unsafe storage practices, and unintentional shootings.

About a third of American children live in homes with firearms, and of these households, 43 percent contain at least one unlocked firearm. Thirteen percent of households with guns contain at least one firearm that is unlocked and loaded or stored with ammunition.6 In all, more than two million American children live in homes with unsecured guns — and 1.7 million live in homes with guns that are both loaded and unlocked.7

I realize that the knee-jerk knuckle-draggers will instantly discount anything that comes from the federal government. But here are the statistics. Read 'em and weep. I do.

Putting homicides, suicides and accidental death all in the same category of gun violence is lying. Dolt

 

[Rustic]

2aguy, I salute you. You obviously have more time than I have. I'll accept your figures. However, they have nothing to do with the number of children who shoot a gun, accidentally because adults don't practice gun safety. Gun safety is not the same as gun restriction. Why can't you people understand that? Gun safety has nothing to do with medical malpractice or knife attacks or pool drownings or sex ed. It's about adults taking the time to protect their own children, if no one else's!

For Dumbass control freaks like yourself will never realize The obvious, more laws will save no one. Dolt

 

[2aguy]

2aguy, I salute you. You obviously have more time than I have. I'll accept your figures. However, they have nothing to do with the number of children who shoot a gun, accidentally because adults don't practice gun safety. Gun safety is not the same as gun restriction. Why can't you people understand that? Gun safety has nothing to do with medical malpractice or knife attacks or pool drownings or sex ed. It's about adults taking the time to protect their own children, if no one else's!

I thank you for your honesty. Too many times we deal with those opposed to gun ownership who are rude and unpleasant. The number of children who accidentally shoot a gun because an adult is negligent is something we can discuss...and the absolute best way to improve even those amazingly low numbers....is gun safety education in public schools, just like fire safety education has saved lives....and public information campaigns...Television commercials and the usual posters that remind people to handle and store guns safely. That way you actually address the problem....and you aren't attacking 356,99,807 million guns in private hands that were not used to kill a child negligently.

We completely understand that gun safety is not gun restriction......you need to explain that to the anti gunners here on U.S.message because they believe that gun restriction is the only way to have gun safety.

 

[2aguy]

2aguy, I salute you. You obviously have more time than I have. I'll accept your figures. However, they have nothing to do with the number of children who shoot a gun, accidentally because adults don't practice gun safety. Gun safety is not the same as gun restriction. Why can't you people understand that? Gun safety has nothing to do with medical malpractice or knife attacks or pool drownings or sex ed. It's about adults taking the time to protect their own children, if no one else's!

Take a look at this.....this story uses the information that you found......and notice one thing....

Nearly 10,000 American children are injured or killed by guns every year

In the 2009 Kids’ Inpatient Database (KID), 7,391 children under the age of 20

Have you ever heard anyone else describe an age group of children as ".....children under the age of 20...?"

Doesn't that sound like an odd way to phrase that?

Do you know why they do....because they can then use 17,18, and 19 year olds to pad their numbers for all manner of gun mayhem...even though the emergency room doctors who publish anti gun research do not list the gang and criminal affiliation of those "children." And keep in mind.....there are 15 year old gang members who get shot all the time...and they are not children in the sense that we think of as children getting injured by guns...they are hardened criminals, engaging in violent criminal behavior.....this is also how they pad their numbers....

 

[2aguy]

2aguy, I salute you. You obviously have more time than I have. I'll accept your figures. However, they have nothing to do with the number of children who shoot a gun, accidentally because adults don't practice gun safety. Gun safety is not the same as gun restriction. Why can't you people understand that? Gun safety has nothing to do with medical malpractice or knife attacks or pool drownings or sex ed. It's about adults taking the time to protect their own children, if no one else's!

Take a look at the final death stats from the CDC WISQARs data.....plug in the top 20, and break down the age groups by 5 year periods or less....and you notice that that is the only way you can get the high numbers for accidental gun deaths that those news stories claim....this is a great tool if you want to know the real numbers for gun murder, gun accidental death and gun suicide......

 

[M14 Shooter]

2aguy, I salute you. You obviously have more time than I have. I'll accept your figures. However, they have nothing to do with the number of children who shoot a gun, accidentally because adults don't practice gun safety. Gun safety is not the same as gun restriction. Why can't you people understand that? Gun safety has nothing to do with medical malpractice or knife attacks or pool drownings or sex ed. It's about adults taking the time to protect their own children, if no one else's!

And again...
How many of these accidents would have been avoided had gun safety been taught in schools?