About Libya

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  1. Annie

    Annie Diamond Member

    Nov 22, 2003
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    NYT has an interesting take on the change of heart of Libya's Qaddafi:

    That's in the concluding paragraph of an editorial regarding US/UK role, where they concede that:

    The NYT's attempts to twist what has been going on, just illuminates the 'cascading effect', put forward by Austin Bay here, http://www.strategypage.com/onpoint/articles/20031218.asp and also covered on NPR radio yesterday.

    It just makes on figure, it must suk to be a liberal/democrat/internationist right now. In the past month the US economy appears to be ready to explode. In spite of the 'amateurist' handling of DOD and State, France and Germany have both agreed to a restructuring/forgiveness of some debt, regarding Iraq. Saddam is caught. Unemployment is down and the markets are up and rising. The UN is appearing ever more irrelevant via their pullout in Iraq and threatened pull out in the multi-lateralist sanctioned Afghanist-and it's their own fault.
  2. nbdysfu

    nbdysfu Member

    Nov 17, 2003
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    **Excerpt From**
    General Plans Changes in Afghan Strategy
    38 minutes ago
    By STEPHEN GRAHAM, Associated Press Writer
    Attacks have forced the United Nations (news - web sites) and other aid groups to withdraw from some regions, undermining aid delivery and confidence in the reconstruction efforts of the U.S.-backed government ahead of elections slated for June.

    The United Nations has even accused the U.S. military of playing into the hands of Taliban agitators in its hunt for terror suspects, with two botched raids that killed 15 Afghan children earlier this month.

    In a bid to deliver more aid to impoverished civilians, the United States and allies including Britain and New Zealand have set up nine joint civilian-military units charged with creating islands of stability across the country.

    So far, most of the so-called Provincial Reconstruction Teams are in relatively secure regions. Now, the U.S. military is deploying teams across a broad swath of the country dominated by Pashtuns, Afghanistan's largest ethnic group from which the hardline Islamic Taliban draw their main support.

    Barno, who took command of the 11,000-strong U.S. force here on Nov. 27, said there will be at least 12 such reconstruction teams by March and more later, including dangerous missions in the capitals of Zabul and Uruzgan provinces that were shunned by aid groups because Taliban militants reportedly roam freely.

    "We are looking at a significant alteration of our strategy in the south and east," Barno said at his office in the fortified U.S. Embassy compound in Kabul.

    The military teams will help distribute reconstruction aid bolstered by an extra $1.2 billion recently released by the U.S. Congress.

    That aid, combined with the opening of the south and east by a string of new military operations, will cause "a dramatic change in the amount of involvement of the people in that area in support of the central government and the future of Afghanistan," Barno said.

    Aid groups worry that their attempts to remain independent in the eyes of Afghans, including Taliban sympathizers, has been compromised by U.S. involvement in delivering assistance.

    But Barno suggested it was time for relief groups to accept that they could not be neutral after a stream of deliberate attacks on de-miners and well-diggers, and said he hoped aid workers would return to Pashtun areas.

    "They probably have to, and they are, realizing that they are now operating in a different world," he said.
    At least 11 aid workers have been killed in attacks this year, including a French U.N. refugee worker who was gunned down at short range by suspected Taliban in the eastern city of Ghazni in November.

    The top U.N. official in Afghanistan, Lakhdar Brahimi, warned last week that the world body may have to abandon its two-year effort to help reconstruct the war-battered country unless security improves.

    Barno said insurgents were reduced to "very small and very focused" attacks. "As this future continues to unfold, the terrorist organizations are challenged to show that they exist at all."
  3. waltky

    waltky Wise ol' monkey Supporting Member

    Feb 6, 2011
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    Okolona, KY
    Might be why gas has gone up here...
    Libyan militias seize control of major oil terminals
    Mar 3,`17 -- Libyan militias occupied major oil terminals on Friday after clashes with armed forces based in the east and commanded by army chief Gen. Khalifa Hifter, military officials said, amid fears the facilitates could sustain serious damage if the clashes escalate. At least nine soldiers were killed.
  4. Marion Morrison

    Marion Morrison Diamond Member

    Feb 10, 2017
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    Grab some of those good Libya links from the other place and post them here, please.

    I do miss that stuff. Not enough to go back on my word.

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