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Here we go....."Jose Baez is weighing in on the Aaron Hernandez Netflix documentary saying Aaron killed himself largely because of his CTE and not over his sexuality."
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Here we go....."Jose Baez is weighing in on the Aaron Hernandez Netflix documentary saying Aaron killed himself largely because of his CTE and not over his sexuality."
Right, I wonder why Gordie Howe's brain was never studied after he died. NHL didn't even have helmets for their goalies in the 70s and that is when Howe played. He played into his 50s. He played what, 30 years in the NHL and no curiosity? Nothing.Roger Staubach retired many years ago due to concussions. He isn't barking at the moon or murdering people. Steve Young retired due to concussions. He isn't drooling when he smiles or murdering people.
Does everyone who smokes heavily get lung cancer? Does everyone who chewed tobacco get mouth or throat cancer? Of course not.
Does Roger Staubach or Steve Young have CTE? We don't know because they're not DEAD. It is tragic, and I pray for a way to diagnose this disease years earlier, I'm sure you do too.
There are also great, legendary, NFL players who were diagnosed with CTE who were not violent. I've not read a lot about two of them, Ken Stabler and Frank Gifford, so I don't know about their lives behind the scenes.
Symptoms
There are no specific symptoms that have been clearly linked to CTE. Some of the possible signs and symptoms of CTE can occur in many other conditions, but in the few people with proven CTE, symptoms have included:
My guess is that one of my heroes, Terry Bradshaw has the disease. He is a former NFL quarterback who won four Superbowls through 14 seasons in the NFL. Like Ken Stabler and Frank Gifford, they played before the position became "hallowed ground".
- Difficulty thinking (cognitive impairment)
- Impulsive behavior
- Depression or apathy
- Short-term memory loss
- Difficulty planning and carrying out tasks (executive function)
- Emotional instability
- Substance misuse
- Suicidal thoughts or behavior
I don't understand why you attempt to trivialize the disease.
Explain why there is nearly zero fascination with that?
Not much made about this study from a few years ago involving girls, soccer, and concussions.
The Concussion Gender Gap: Why Girls Suffer More Head Injuries
Very little.
Let me know when they do in depth comparative studies with brains from football and other sports.
Read this full article
Op-ed: How one flawed study and irresponsible reporting launched a wave of CTE hysteria
Then we took a closer look at the study that led to the Times story â apparently something few journalists had bothered to do. When we dug into the methodology, we were floored. The study was so badly flawed that it was nearly worthless. But thatâs not what had been reported in practically every major media outlet in the world. Thanks to the barrage of sensationalist coverage, the â110 out of 111 brainsâ story had turned into a wildfire, and we were standing around with a couple of garden hoses, telling everybody to calm down.
Thatâs why we wrote our new book, âBrainwashed: The Bad Science Behind CTE and the Plot to Destroy Footballâ (Amplify, Oct. 23, 2018), and itâs why weâve written this op-ed. We believe that when people know what we know, theyâll start asking tougher, smarter questions, and the âfootball causes CTEâ connection will be revealed as the pseudoscience that it is.
Sure, thatâs a provocative statement. How can we back it up? Letâs start with this: the study that produced the 110 out of 111 brains finding had no control group. Good research design requires a control group against which findings can be compared. In this case, the control group could have been brains from 100 athletes from sports other than football, brains from 100 men who had never played contact sports â any cohort that would have allowed the researchers to determine whether men of a certain age who hadnât played in the NFL also showed signs of CTE. For some reason, this study didnât have that.
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Let me know when espn does any reporting on that fact or when they bring up cte in boxing, hockey or the other WORLDLY sports.
Let me know when hollywood does a movie about the cte problems in those other sports.
Yeah.....
CTE is a major concern in sports. Parents have to wonder if some sports are worth the risk
Used to be just boxers were punch drunk
Now it is found in football, hockey, baseball,soccer, horse racing and auto racing
Used to be a concussion was something you shook off and got back in the game. Now, it can ruin your life
Op-ed: How one flawed study and irresponsible reporting launched a wave of CTE hysteriaRight, I wonder why Gordie Howe's brain was never studied after he died. NHL didn't even have helmets for their goalies in the 70s and that is when Howe played. He played into his 50s. He played what, 30 years in the NHL and no curiosity? Nothing.Roger Staubach retired many years ago due to concussions. He isn't barking at the moon or murdering people. Steve Young retired due to concussions. He isn't drooling when he smiles or murdering people.
Does everyone who smokes heavily get lung cancer? Does everyone who chewed tobacco get mouth or throat cancer? Of course not.
Does Roger Staubach or Steve Young have CTE? We don't know because they're not DEAD. It is tragic, and I pray for a way to diagnose this disease years earlier, I'm sure you do too.
There are also great, legendary, NFL players who were diagnosed with CTE who were not violent. I've not read a lot about two of them, Ken Stabler and Frank Gifford, so I don't know about their lives behind the scenes.
Symptoms
There are no specific symptoms that have been clearly linked to CTE. Some of the possible signs and symptoms of CTE can occur in many other conditions, but in the few people with proven CTE, symptoms have included:
My guess is that one of my heroes, Terry Bradshaw has the disease. He is a former NFL quarterback who won four Superbowls through 14 seasons in the NFL. Like Ken Stabler and Frank Gifford, they played before the position became "hallowed ground".
- Difficulty thinking (cognitive impairment)
- Impulsive behavior
- Depression or apathy
- Short-term memory loss
- Difficulty planning and carrying out tasks (executive function)
- Emotional instability
- Substance misuse
- Suicidal thoughts or behavior
I don't understand why you attempt to trivialize the disease.
Explain why there is nearly zero fascination with that?
Not much made about this study from a few years ago involving girls, soccer, and concussions.
The Concussion Gender Gap: Why Girls Suffer More Head Injuries
Very little.
Let me know when they do in depth comparative studies with brains from football and other sports.
Read this full article
Op-ed: How one flawed study and irresponsible reporting launched a wave of CTE hysteria
Then we took a closer look at the study that led to the Times story â apparently something few journalists had bothered to do. When we dug into the methodology, we were floored. The study was so badly flawed that it was nearly worthless. But thatâs not what had been reported in practically every major media outlet in the world. Thanks to the barrage of sensationalist coverage, the â110 out of 111 brainsâ story had turned into a wildfire, and we were standing around with a couple of garden hoses, telling everybody to calm down.
Thatâs why we wrote our new book, âBrainwashed: The Bad Science Behind CTE and the Plot to Destroy Footballâ (Amplify, Oct. 23, 2018), and itâs why weâve written this op-ed. We believe that when people know what we know, theyâll start asking tougher, smarter questions, and the âfootball causes CTEâ connection will be revealed as the pseudoscience that it is.
Sure, thatâs a provocative statement. How can we back it up? Letâs start with this: the study that produced the 110 out of 111 brains finding had no control group. Good research design requires a control group against which findings can be compared. In this case, the control group could have been brains from 100 athletes from sports other than football, brains from 100 men who had never played contact sports â any cohort that would have allowed the researchers to determine whether men of a certain age who hadnât played in the NFL also showed signs of CTE. For some reason, this study didnât have that.
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Let me know when espn does any reporting on that fact or when they bring up cte in boxing, hockey or the other WORLDLY sports.
Let me know when hollywood does a movie about the cte problems in those other sports.
Yeah.....
Why do you think you have a dog in this fight? What do you have to argue about with research into CTE, a previously unknown disease closely related to repeated concussions?
As for other sports...
The Tragic Post-Hockey Life of an NHL âEnforcerâ
For 11 seasons, Todd Ewen fought in almost every game he played. He didnât live to his 50th birthday.
NICOLAS POLLOCKAPRIL 25, 2019
On January 24, 1987, Todd Ewen, a young right-winger for the St. Louis Blues, knocked the Detroit Red Wingsâ notorious tough guy, Bob Probert, unconscious with one bare-knuckled punch to the head. Ewen was a new recruit, just 21 years old, and the punch immediately solidified his place in the Bluesâ lineupâas well as his role in the National Hockey League as one of the many players who regularly fought members of the opposing team.
[...]
Ewen and Probertâs destinies intertwined after they first met on the ice. Probert was just a year older than Ewen, and he had a similarly grueling decade-plus career. After the two men retired from hockeyâin 1998 and 2002, respectivelyâboth started to forget things. They angered quickly. Each would be dead before his 50th birthday.
Their deaths were among the earliest to fan the flames of a national debate about the lasting effects of hockeyâs brutality on its playersâ brains. But through a twist, Ewen would become a key figure in the NHLâs controversial defense of the sport.
[...]
During his playing days, Ewen was a gentle renaissance man when he wasnât on the ice. He wrote childrenâs books and crafted models out of hockey tape for his young fans. In 1998, Ewen retired from professional hockey and returned to the St. Louis suburbs to live with his wife, Kelli Ewen. After retiring, Kelli noticed changes in Todd. âWe just saw some aggression that we hadnât previously seen,â she says. âMood swings, irritability, and not sleeping. Just a pattern of things that was alarming to me.â
Toddâs behavior only became more erratic. During one episode, he choked Kelli and the police had to intervene. In time, depression and reclusiveness replaced Toddâs anger. He routinely became lost and disoriented in the streets around his own home.
Todd confided in Kelli that he feared he might have chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTEâa neurodegenerative disease that most experts agree is linked to repetitive head trauma. Research on the disease has largely focused on former professional football players, but it has also been discovered in former NHL players. In 2010, Probert, the Red Wingsâ bruiser, became the second NHL player to be diagnosed with CTE. His death was followed in quick succession by the deaths of four other former players, all under the age of 40, all diagnosed with CTE.
[...]
The Tragic Post-Hockey Life of an NHL âEnforcerâ
I have played golf with Joe Namath a half dozen times. Last time was in last October. He may have memory problems. Then again I don't detect anything. He remembers plays from 1967 and what down it was. He enthusiastically tells the stories.CTE is a major concern in sports. Parents have to wonder if some sports are worth the risk
Used to be just boxers were punch drunk
Now it is found in football, hockey, baseball,soccer, horse racing and auto racing
Used to be a concussion was something you shook off and got back in the game. Now, it can ruin your life
One of my gym teachers in high school went to Hofstra with Wayne Chrebet. He brought Chrebet to gym class one day. I was amazed by his athleticism. A couple years ago I ran into my old gym teacher and asked how Wayne is doing. He said Wayne is really messed up. I could give you details, but letâs leave it at that.
Chrebet is one of my favorite JetsCTE is a major concern in sports. Parents have to wonder if some sports are worth the risk
Used to be just boxers were punch drunk
Now it is found in football, hockey, baseball,soccer, horse racing and auto racing
Used to be a concussion was something you shook off and got back in the game. Now, it can ruin your life
One of my gym teachers in high school went to Hofstra with Wayne Chrebet. He brought Chrebet to gym class one day. I was amazed by his athleticism. A couple years ago I ran into my old gym teacher and asked how Wayne is doing. He said Wayne is really messed up. I could give you details, but letâs leave it at that.
Some are not affected by CTEI have played golf with Joe Namath a half dozen times. Last time was in last October. He may have memory problems. Then again I don't detect anything. He remembers plays from 1967 and what down it was. He enthusiastically tells the stories.CTE is a major concern in sports. Parents have to wonder if some sports are worth the risk
Used to be just boxers were punch drunk
Now it is found in football, hockey, baseball,soccer, horse racing and auto racing
Used to be a concussion was something you shook off and got back in the game. Now, it can ruin your life
One of my gym teachers in high school went to Hofstra with Wayne Chrebet. He brought Chrebet to gym class one day. I was amazed by his athleticism. A couple years ago I ran into my old gym teacher and asked how Wayne is doing. He said Wayne is really messed up. I could give you details, but letâs leave it at that.
Have also met John Stallworth and he is also fully aware and still quite busy. An ex NFL corner Tim Mckyer who has 3 SB rings, I think he is 56 now, also loves talking the old days. No signs of anything. My alma mater in HS coach is Patrick Surtain former corner of the Dolphins and Chiefs. He has coached my old HS to two state championships in the last 5 years.
Just sayin....
I have played golf with Joe Namath a half dozen times. Last time was in last October. He may have memory problems. Then again I don't detect anything. He remembers plays from 1967 and what down it was. He enthusiastically tells the stories.CTE is a major concern in sports. Parents have to wonder if some sports are worth the risk
Used to be just boxers were punch drunk
Now it is found in football, hockey, baseball,soccer, horse racing and auto racing
Used to be a concussion was something you shook off and got back in the game. Now, it can ruin your life
One of my gym teachers in high school went to Hofstra with Wayne Chrebet. He brought Chrebet to gym class one day. I was amazed by his athleticism. A couple years ago I ran into my old gym teacher and asked how Wayne is doing. He said Wayne is really messed up. I could give you details, but letâs leave it at that.
Have also met John Stallworth and he is also fully aware and still quite busy. An ex NFL corner Tim Mckyer who has 3 SB rings, I think he is 56 now, also loves talking the old days. No signs of anything. My alma mater in HS coach is Patrick Surtain former corner of the Dolphins and Chiefs. He has coached my old HS to two state championships in the last 5 years.
Just sayin....