A Liberal says: Stop Digging the Hole, Secretary Clinton

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Stop Digging the Hole, Secretary Clinton

Your email problem has mushroomed from a self-inflicted nuisance to a self-inflicted wound. The reason is simple: At every decision point, you and your staff have made the wrong choice about how to proceed, erring on the side of secrecy and self-righteousness.

The damage can't be entirely undone. But some of it can be mitigated by doing what doesn't come naturally to you: admitting some error and accepting that not all the criticism has been fueled by partisan attackers in league with media enablers.

The original mistake -- deciding to conduct official government business through a private email account for the sake, you say, of convenience -- can't be undone. But you ought to stop -- now! -- with the unconvincing claim that you did nothing different from your predecessors as secretary of state.

The relevant universe of predecessors during the era of email is precisely two. Condoleezza Rice rarely used email but employed a government account when she did.

The more reasonable question is: What did other Cabinet secretaries inthisadministration do? No others, to my knowledge, relied solely or even primarily on a private address.

By the way, even if relying solely on private email was not against explicit rules at the time, you still were supposed to make your correspondence available promptly for archiving and FOIA requests -- not when you turned them over, in response to an inquiry from the State Department, two years after departing.

Two subsequent mistakes -- first, deciding to delete the emails you deemed personal; second, declining, until the Justice Department asked, to make your personal server available for review -- are similarly unfixable at this point.

Yes, you would have been permitted to erase the personal messages on a government account, but you didn't use a government account. And wiping the server -- you did work on Watergate for the House Judiciary Committee, didn't you? Why not hot-potato the server over to State and let them figure out how to handle it --before the Justice Department got involved and you looked like you had something to hide.

So, my advice: Stop making light. Stop litigating. Stop the high-handed dismissing. Stop the prickliness with the media; we're not going away. Stop the non-apology apologies (you didn't do anything wrong but you wouldn't do it over again).

This problem isn't going away. The trick, right now, is simply not making it worse.

Stop Digging the Hole, Secretary Clinton
Another Article by Ruth Marcus:

Biden Can't Defeat Clinton--She Can Do That Herself

Biden Can't Defeat Clinton--She Can Do That Herself

This is a columnist from the left. She is in Clinton's corner and she knows that secrecy that Clinton aspires to is so damaging, it could cost her the race, So liberal posters, don't make light of her actions. She's in trouble as she should be for disastrous decisions. Now tell me. Is that the kind of President we want? We did once. And he resigned.
 
Writer does not realize that Clinton is being hung out to dry. She's done by her own party. Obama, Biden, Warren...etc, no one is going deep for her.
 
Are some of the kooks actually pretending that steadfast GOP shill Ruth Marcus is actually some kind of liberal?

Dang. I think they are.

Never mind. Nothing to see here. Just crazy people babbling.

No, she's not an open GOP shill. Her specialty is concern-trolling. And it's always a Democrat that she's ever so concerned about. I have more respect for the open GOP shills, as at least they're honest about it. The beltway media despises both of the Clintons, and Marcus is as beltway as they get.
 
Are some of the kooks actually pretending that steadfast GOP shill Ruth Marcus is actually some kind of liberal?

Dang. I think they are.

Never mind. Nothing to see here. Just crazy people babbling.

No, she's not an open GOP shill. Her specialty is concern-trolling. And it's always a Democrat that she's ever so concerned about. I have more respect for the open GOP shills, as at least they're honest about it. The beltway media despises both of the Clintons, and Marcus is as beltway as they get.
She writes a column called "From the Left". So naturally she is a rwnj, right? LOL
 
I hope I can keep my reply short, and I apologize if it goes on for a awhile....


Keep in mind there is a reason that the Hillary Clinton scandals are garnering the attention they do. There are global elitists at Wall Street and beyond that feel they can't control her as much as they'd like.

Let's go back to the Democratic primaries leading up to the '08 election. The global elitists felt they couldn't control Hillary enough to suit their greedy needs. This lead to a meeting with Barack Obama at Johnny's Half Shell in Washington D.C. The meeting included Lloyd Blankfein and Gary Cohn of Goldman Sachs, Larry Fink of BlackRock, Jaime Dimon, amongst some other rich global elitists, where upon meeting with Obama realized that he was dumber than a rock and was the ideal puppet.

After the meeting, it wasn't long before along with the above mentioned entities, along with others such as CitiGroup, JPMorgan, Chase, UBS, Morgan Stanley and several other heavy hitters shifted their funding from Hillary Clinton to their perfect puppet, Barack Obama.

I am seeing a similar trend, these same powers that be feel they will not have enough control over Hillary, they want a dumber person they can control to be benefit them. Al Gore is dumber than a rock, he can be bought off and paid for, Joe Biden is not much brighter, that is why these names are being surfaced more. The powers that be don't really want Hillary.

Again, there is so much more depth I can go into, but I am trying to condense this so posters won't look at a post too long to read.

Look beyond the socialist-corporatist media and see the forest for the trees.
 
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She'll be making jokes and dismissing this scandal right up until she puts on her orange jumpsuit.
 
I hope I can keep my reply short, and I apologize if it goes on for a awhile....


Keep in mind there is a reason that the Hillary Clinton scandals are garnering the attention they do. There are global elitists at Wall Street and beyond that feel they can't control her as much as they'd like.

Let's go back to the Democratic primaries leading up to the '08 election. The global elitists felt they couldn't control Hillary enough to suit their greedy needs. This lead to a meeting with Barack Obama at Johnny's Half Shell in Washington D.C. The meeting included Lloyd Blankfein and Gary Cohn of Goldman Sachs, Larry Fink of BlackRock, Jaime Dimon, amongst some other rich global elitists, where upon meeting with Obama realized that he was dumber than and was the ideal puppet.

After the meeting, it wasn't long before along with the above mentioned entities, along with others such as CitiGroup, JPMorgan, Chase, UBS, Morgan Stanley and several other heavy hitters shifted their funding from Hillary Clinton to their perfect puppet, Barack Obama.

I am seeing a similar trend, these same powers that be feel they will not have enough control over Hillary, they want a dumber person they can control to be benefit them. Al Gore is dumber than a rock, he can be bought off and paid for, Joe Biden is not much brighter, that is why these names are being surfaced more. The powers that be don't really want Hillary.

Again, there is so much more depth I can go into, but I am trying to condense this so posters won't look at a post too long to read.

Look beyond the socialist-corporatist media and see the forest for the trees.
If Hillary was as bright as you insinuate, she wouldn't be trying to dig her way out of this hole.
 
I hope I can keep my reply short, and I apologize if it goes on for a awhile....


Keep in mind there is a reason that the Hillary Clinton scandals are garnering the attention they do. There are global elitists at Wall Street and beyond that feel they can't control her as much as they'd like.

Let's go back to the Democratic primaries leading up to the '08 election. The global elitists felt they couldn't control Hillary enough to suit their greedy needs. This lead to a meeting with Barack Obama at Johnny's Half Shell in Washington D.C. The meeting included Lloyd Blankfein and Gary Cohn of Goldman Sachs, Larry Fink of BlackRock, Jaime Dimon, amongst some other rich global elitists, where upon meeting with Obama realized that he was dumber than and was the ideal puppet.

After the meeting, it wasn't long before along with the above mentioned entities, along with others such as CitiGroup, JPMorgan, Chase, UBS, Morgan Stanley and several other heavy hitters shifted their funding from Hillary Clinton to their perfect puppet, Barack Obama.

I am seeing a similar trend, these same powers that be feel they will not have enough control over Hillary, they want a dumber person they can control to be benefit them. Al Gore is dumber than a rock, he can be bought off and paid for, Joe Biden is not much brighter, that is why these names are being surfaced more. The powers that be don't really want Hillary.

Again, there is so much more depth I can go into, but I am trying to condense this so posters won't look at a post too long to read.

Look beyond the socialist-corporatist media and see the forest for the trees.
If Hillary was as bright as you insinuate, she wouldn't be trying to dig her way out of this hole.

Hillary is smart, you're mistaking dumb with foolishness. Hillary is very foolish, her problem is that while she is smart, she thinks she's smarter than she is. She was foolish enough to get herself in the situation she's currently in, a situation that no matter how smart one is, they can't keep track of all their lies to get themself out of a disasterous predicament.

People who are very smart, but foolish: Hillary Clinton, Newt Gingrich, John Edwards, Mitt Romney, Chris Christi.

People who are truly dumb: Barack Obama, Jeb Bush, Rick Perry, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Joe Biden.
 
Stop Digging the Hole, Secretary Clinton

Your email problem has mushroomed from a self-inflicted nuisance to a self-inflicted wound. The reason is simple: At every decision point, you and your staff have made the wrong choice about how to proceed, erring on the side of secrecy and self-righteousness.

The damage can't be entirely undone. But some of it can be mitigated by doing what doesn't come naturally to you: admitting some error and accepting that not all the criticism has been fueled by partisan attackers in league with media enablers.

The original mistake -- deciding to conduct official government business through a private email account for the sake, you say, of convenience -- can't be undone. But you ought to stop -- now! -- with the unconvincing claim that you did nothing different from your predecessors as secretary of state.

The relevant universe of predecessors during the era of email is precisely two. Condoleezza Rice rarely used email but employed a government account when she did.

The more reasonable question is: What did other Cabinet secretaries inthisadministration do? No others, to my knowledge, relied solely or even primarily on a private address.

By the way, even if relying solely on private email was not against explicit rules at the time, you still were supposed to make your correspondence available promptly for archiving and FOIA requests -- not when you turned them over, in response to an inquiry from the State Department, two years after departing.

Two subsequent mistakes -- first, deciding to delete the emails you deemed personal; second, declining, until the Justice Department asked, to make your personal server available for review -- are similarly unfixable at this point.

Yes, you would have been permitted to erase the personal messages on a government account, but you didn't use a government account. And wiping the server -- you did work on Watergate for the House Judiciary Committee, didn't you? Why not hot-potato the server over to State and let them figure out how to handle it --before the Justice Department got involved and you looked like you had something to hide.

So, my advice: Stop making light. Stop litigating. Stop the high-handed dismissing. Stop the prickliness with the media; we're not going away. Stop the non-apology apologies (you didn't do anything wrong but you wouldn't do it over again).

This problem isn't going away. The trick, right now, is simply not making it worse.

Stop Digging the Hole, Secretary Clinton
Another Article by Ruth Marcus:

Biden Can't Defeat Clinton--She Can Do That Herself

Biden Can't Defeat Clinton--She Can Do That Herself

This is a columnist from the left. She is in Clinton's corner and she knows that secrecy that Clinton aspires to is so damaging, it could cost her the race, So liberal posters, don't make light of her actions. She's in trouble as she should be for disastrous decisions. Now tell me. Is that the kind of President we want? We did once. And he resigned.
Ruth Marcus is not a liberal. Only message board right wing nuts who even think Romney is a liberal would call Ruth Marcus a liberal.
 
Are some of the kooks actually pretending that steadfast GOP shill Ruth Marcus is actually some kind of liberal?

Dang. I think they are.

Never mind. Nothing to see here. Just crazy people babbling.

No, she's not an open GOP shill. Her specialty is concern-trolling. And it's always a Democrat that she's ever so concerned about. I have more respect for the open GOP shills, as at least they're honest about it. The beltway media despises both of the Clintons, and Marcus is as beltway as they get.
Its like saying that it is shocking that the "liberal" Maureen Dowd hates the Clintons. Right wing nuts don't know what a liberal is.
 
Are some of the kooks actually pretending that steadfast GOP shill Ruth Marcus is actually some kind of liberal?

Dang. I think they are.

Never mind. Nothing to see here. Just crazy people babbling.

No, she's not an open GOP shill. Her specialty is concern-trolling. And it's always a Democrat that she's ever so concerned about. I have more respect for the open GOP shills, as at least they're honest about it. The beltway media despises both of the Clintons, and Marcus is as beltway as they get.
On Meet The Press yesterday, EVERY SINGLE leftist on the panel blasted Clinton for the email scandal.
 

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