a battery powered future

[Intense]

yes and do you know what that means?


they dont own the whole industry do they?

they cant shut it down if they dont own it huh?



they have to buy it first.


or they have to find a way to defer it until they cant make money from oil anymore huh?

Why would they want to shut it down?? You do realize that plastic battery cases are made from petroleum by-products, don't you? There's a huge incentive for oil companies to want them right there.

And also, oil will be needed to generate the electricity that's put into those millions of new batteries. Another win for the oil companies.

Just so long as the batteries in her vibrator don't run out prematurely.

 

[Truthmatters]

The inventor of the core technology is Don Sadoway, MIT Professor of Materials Chemistry, one of the school’s most popular professors and sought-after speakers. Using seed money from within MIT, Sadoway and his team invented the liquid metal battery or, more academically, a process called Reversible Ambipolar Electrolysis.

Sadoway claims that the all-liquid configuration is self-assembling and is expected to be scalable at low cost. Furthermore, this technology may have a shot at being cheaper than sodium sulfur (NaS) batteries.

Across the country in Long Beach, CA, Ionex has created the Energy Storage System—a 1-megawatt-hour unit using large-format prismatic batteries based on lithium iron phosphate (LiFePo4). These batteries are capable of producing 1 megawatt or 2 megawatts of continuous AC power from a 40-foot shipping container weighing 35,000 kilograms, which can be mounted on a concrete pad or on a wheeled trailer.

And then there’s A123, who specialize in nanophosphate lithium-ion batteries and systems. With a corporate revenue mix of 50 percent transportation, 40 percent grid, and 10 percent consumer, A123 provides advanced technology solutions at the cell, module and system levels.

Finally, there’s stealthy battery startup Amprius, who’ve raised $25 million and boast investors like Trident, Google’s Eric Schmidt, and Stanford University. The firm is using a silicon nanostructure to replace a carbon anode system in batteries.

CEO Kang Sun claims that silicon has “an intrinsic energy density ten times higher than carbon.” He called Amprius “late science stage, early engineering stage” and noted that the firm’s technology is four times better than current technology.

As entrepreneurs and investors continue to focus on developing new battery technology, it’s not unreasonable to surmise that, one day, battery technology will play a major role in the clean energy economy.




gee your an asshole MS


Breakthrough Technology Could Lead to Battery-Powered Future – ecomagination

MS (and I) quoted part of your OP link showing an oil company funding the research, and you call him an asshole for doing it?

that means one company on one venture huh you fool

 

[Rat in the Hat]

yes and do you know what that means?


they dont own the whole industry do they?

they cant shut it down if they dont own it huh?



they have to buy it first.


or they have to find a way to defer it until they cant make money from oil anymore huh?

And as to your silly idea that the oil companies "cant (sic) make money from oil anymore", trucks, trains, and ships will always run on oil. Batteries can't provide the raw horsepower needed to move large amounts of freight. And you will NEVER see a battery powered airplane. The batteries would take up so much space and weight that the plane couldn't carry a single revenue passenger. Not to mention what would happen if a battery shorted out in flight.

 

[Truthmatters]

yes and do you know what that means?


they dont own the whole industry do they?

they cant shut it down if they dont own it huh?



they have to buy it first.


or they have to find a way to defer it until they cant make money from oil anymore huh?

Why would they want to shut it down?? You do realize that plastic battery cases are made from petroleum by-products, don't you? There's a huge incentive for oil companies to want them right there.

And also, oil will be needed to generate the electricity that's put into those millions of new batteries. Another win for the oil companies.

Just so long as the batteries in her vibrator don't run out prematurely.

stop using your head as a suppository

 

[tjvh]

Oh joy... The mountains of Toxic Waste a Battery powered Nation would generate would make a picture perfect sunset.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

there are other ways to charge batteries than oil.


they will NOT let this technology harm their oil interests.


if they can they will hold it back until they can use up the oil profits


that is what happens when ONLY profit matters

Battery technology will never harm oil interests. Oil is used for many more products than gasoline.

Here's just a small list of other things made from oil...

A partial list of products made from petroleum

Educate yourself, before you look like an even bigger fool.

 

[Ernie S.]

there are other ways to charge batteries than oil.


they will NOT let this technology harm their oil interests.


if they can they will hold it back until they can use up the oil profits


that is what happens when ONLY profit matters

You just don't get it, do you. Batteries do not produce energy. They STORE energy, usually produced by burning OIL.

 

[Truthmatters]

Total S.A. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a french oil company at that

 

[Intense]

Why would they want to shut it down?? You do realize that plastic battery cases are made from petroleum by-products, don't you? There's a huge incentive for oil companies to want them right there.

And also, oil will be needed to generate the electricity that's put into those millions of new batteries. Another win for the oil companies.

Just so long as the batteries in her vibrator don't run out prematurely.

stop using your head as a suppository

I'm sorry, did I interrupt something.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Total S.A. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a french oil company at that

So what. Does the fact that it's a French company change the fact that they are investing in battery technology?

 

[flacaltenn]

yes and do you know what that means?


they dont own the whole industry do they?

they cant shut it down if they dont own it huh?



they have to buy it first.


or they have to find a way to defer it until they cant make money from oil anymore huh?

Look TM -- I'm gonna do this without any attacks or personal defamation.. But you need to realize something. Batteries store electricity.

Very little of our electricity (almost NONE) come from OIL.

Oil however drives the transportation sector. That's the angle where Oil companies WANT to invest in Electric Transport as a hedge. Got that so far? Good.

They will sell NO MORE or NO LESS oil because of this UNLESS we find an additional ELECTRICAL GENERATION large enough to actually CHARGE those batteries for a large fraction of American vehicles.. Something like 150 new NUCLEAR plants.

So quit harping on "big oil" and try to see what the REAL interconnections are here..

 

[Truthmatters]

when you can battery power things you make them lighter which causes them to use less energy.

as long as the battery itsself can be made smaller and or more flexable in shape you get energy savings from them.

You can design the storage into the very shape of the design if the storage is more flexable in its size and shape.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

yes and do you know what that means?


they dont own the whole industry do they?

they cant shut it down if they dont own it huh?



they have to buy it first.


or they have to find a way to defer it until they cant make money from oil anymore huh?

Why would they want to shut it down?? You do realize that plastic battery cases are made from petroleum by-products, don't you? There's a huge incentive for oil companies to want them right there.

And also, oil will be needed to generate the electricity that's put into those millions of new batteries. Another win for the oil companies.

Just so long as the batteries in her vibrator don't run out prematurely.

She'll be bummed out when there's no oil to make a new plastic case when the old one wears out.

 

[Truthmatters]

in case you assholes have not noticed battery powered cars are more energy efficient huh?

 

[flacaltenn]

in case you assholes have not noticed battery powered cars are more energy efficient huh?

No more clean and efficient than the (mostly coal) plants that are now powering them..

Build a couple hundred nuclear plants and they would truely be cleaner and more efficient.

 

[Truthmatters]

like fukashima?

 

[Rat in the Hat]

in case you assholes have not noticed battery powered cars are more energy efficient huh?

In case you didn't read my link, here are just a few things made from oil you will need in all of the new battery powered cars...

Bearing Grease,
Foam Rubber Upholstery
Enamel Paint
Plastic
Vinyl
Tires
Refrigerant

Nope, oil's not going away anytime soon, unless you can find a new raw material to manufacture these products.

 

[flacaltenn]

like fukashima?

No! I'd prefer to build NEW plants. Not 50 year old ones. Something with a computer in it more powerful than a cell phone..

 

[tjvh]

when you can battery power things you make them lighter which causes them to use less energy.

as long as the battery itsself can be made smaller and or more flexable in shape you get energy savings from them.

You can design the storage into the very shape of the design if the storage is more flexable in its size and shape.

The main problem with battery powered vehicles IS the weight of the batteries numbskull.

 

[Old Rocks]

With a fourfold or better increase in the power of the batteries for a given weight, that is no longer a factor. The present price of solar is such that having a vehicle that is electric would make the purchase of a solar system payback less than five years. Also, the vehicle is a very good storage unit for emergency power for the home.

At present there are a number of sources of solar panels available for about a dollar a watt. And Toyota has stated that the will have a battery in mass manufacture by 2020 that is three to five times as powerful at one fifth to one tenth the cost of present batteries.

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