2012, the issues, the politics, the cliches.

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  1. Wry Catcher
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    We live in interesting times. The upcoming election will decide the quality of life for the next generation of Americans as the people will pick a new House of Representatives, one-third of the Senate and a President who will guide us until January 2017.

    Since the election of Ronald Reagan our politics have been sorely divided along ideological lines, as the two major parties seek to fundamentally change America. The issues we face today have changed very little over the course of our history as a nation; today, unfortunately, the animosity amonst us maybe as severe as at anytime in our history, save for Civil War era.

    Every week or so a new event clouds the landscape as the talking heads, blogosphere and 24/7 'news' issues BREAKING NEWS alerts, many times on salacious matters which have nothing to do with our real problems.

    Is it possilbe for there to be general agreement on the real problems facing us today? And from there to begin to dabate potenital solutions critically, looking outside the box of ideological purity?
     
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    Progs want bigger government. Even in the face of absolute collapse.
    Cons want to shrink it down to next to nothing. Even in the face that some people will suffer.

    Progs run the DNC and push the RNC

    Cons have just re-entered the RNC and don't exist in the DNC


    we will march past the point of collapse, just as planned. The election will only decide when, if it has not occured.
     
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    This pic summarizes the major issue: Obama Made Things Worse.

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    no. sadly, but no. As long as the American public is misled through the politicians and the mass media about what the true state of public opinion is (we'll tell you what most of you think, and most of you will go along with it), and as long as most of us are working too hard at two and three jobs to make ends meet to be the "informed" electorate this representative republic was predicated upon (and those who wish to stay in control have pulled out all stops to see to it), we will continue to allow ourselves to be pitted against each other in the fight over "social values" and economic crumbs rather than any solid policies that would or could have any lasting value to any of us.
     
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    Three key issues. Economy, Our foriegn policy - are we too involved elsewhere? and developing clean alternatives to oil.

    That's where we need to focus
     
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    Aren't there enough "it's all Obama's fault"? There are plenty of threads for you to poison with partisan crap, please go away.
     
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    So whose projection is that^? Link?
     
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    Kudos for the attempt, but I don't see political compromise until we have bread lines. Conservatives will continue to believe that the private sector will step up and fix everything, with no assist from the public sector. What's needed is a solid, realistic partnership of both, and begin by leaving politicking completely out of it. As individuals, we don't hold much sway in making that happen.
     
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    i wonder if there had been a republican president, and we had no extension of unemployment benefits and no stimulus, how much higher the actual unemployment rate would have climbed to....

    and where is the GOP to blame in all of this? they have been in control of the House for the last 6 months and we havent seen any major changes in unemployment or the economy, are we to say they are to blame for this as well? what happens if the debt ceiling isn't raised, are you all gonna blame Obama for that or does the GOP get the blame for blocking all legislation?
     
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    Boy, oh boy, Wry......do I ever agree with you. The politicians are so busy trying to either make each other look bad or further their own agenda that the real work that this country so sorely needs is not getting done. When did we fall off the course of fixing our problems? (There are so many of them.) Sometimes I think that our government system is so flawed/broken that we'll never get it back on track again, at least not with the way our current government operates. And that worries me for my children, who are now in their late twenties. I wonder what kind of government their generation is going to be left with. When the governments of other countries (i.e. China) start warning us to "stop playing with fire" when it comes to our fiscal activities, our current government had better sit up and take notice.

    And the media? The main concern by too many media outlets these days seems to be how to most effectively sensationalize (and many times put a negative spin on) any bit of information they can find. I think that if we turned on the news every night and heard about the good being done by regular, everyday people to make our local communities better there might be a wave of change in this country. In the absence of continual negativity in the media and, instead, exposure to positive reporting on events people might be more inclined to stand up from their easy chairs and say "what can I do to help make this country great again?" So much negativity and hatefulness only breeds apathy and discontent.

    I know I may have a pie-in-the-sky attitude. I realize there are bad things that happen in the world every day. But I believe in a glass half-full, versus always half-empty (or completely empty!). I believe that this country is only as strong as its people. And if we lie down and die because we seem to have a runaway government, then that's exactly what this country will do: Die. We CAN be great again. Get rid of the schmucks and bums in Washington and let's get on with it.
     

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