Discussion in 'Environment' started by KMAN, Dec 29, 2008.
2008 was the year man-made global warming was disproved - Telegraph
Happy to hear it.
Now what are we going to do about global warming?
Allow a couple of hypotheticals for moment in answering the following:
IF the global warming we are seeing is not predominantly due to man
IF the notion that man made global warming is essentially the result of man counteracting or overriding natural cycles.....
Should we be doing anything about global warming?
This is classic. It was only a few years ago that Bush supporters claimed there was no such thing as global warming; that we weren't in a rapid, long term warming trend.
Now they are admitting we are in a warming trend but humans have nothing to do with it.
Of course we should do something about climate change, the man made part is a red herring.
Important to understand the basis of it, so that we can project out - If projections continue to show cataclysmic shifts then we might be interested in working to prevent it, as a means of self-preservation.
It might even be good for the economy in the long run, given the wars and etc that could ensue over a changing arable landscape etc.
If projections show that things will swing back to where they were, then there would be less of a drive to try to respond.
As I understand it, all the projections show things continuing to warm.
We do NOT have the technology to project out to begin with. We are so ignorant on how and why and when weather and weather effects happen as to be just barely out of the stone age.
We need to learn how the Environment works. We can not predict anything past what we can observe. All the projections are simply wild ass guesses.
You can not predict 5 years from now if you do not even know what causes things to happen. Have we figured out WHY clouds form? When they will form? What kind they will be? How long they will last? When it comes to rain we GUESS based on weather patterns we can see.
Until we know enough of the variables nothing we guess at will be accurate except by pure simple luck.
As for the bullshit claim about not believing in Global warming, HORSE SHIT. There were arguments put forth that man did not cause it and also those put forth that it was just a short term cycle.
In fact the heating has been short term, it was a 1/3 of a degree in around 10 years and is not currently occurring as rapidly anymore. In fact some have stated, with evidence that there has been NO warming since around 1998.
It does sound so much better for the loons though if they claim people did not believe in a warming trend.
Build as man nuclear power plants as possible and start converting over cars/ trucks to electric and CNG.
One thing we should be doing, among others, is preparing for it. Whether or not there is a significant man-made contribution we should be prepared for the possibility that we cannot do anything about it. We'll need to adapt. But no one is focusing on that because people are caught up in the politicized anthropogenic aspect of it.
Does it really matter whether or not global climate change is due to human activity?
Can we reverse it by changing our ways?
The real answer is to be prepared for the changes that are coming, try to mitigate those changes as much as possible, and rely on science, rather than politics and wishful thinking. We won't do that, of course, since wishful thinking and politics are what drives human activities, not science, logic, or reason.
Woopdi doo! Great. Let the never ending orgy of consumption continue!! More factories! More smoke! More cars! More of everything!
Let the party continue!!
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