Legal, this is vhclark from pe2k. tap opened a private board for the sane people orphaned by the demise of PE2K. It's called presidential election 2k and beyond. only about 22 members at the moment, and i'm sure you would be welcome to join. YOu can email me at [email protected], and I'll forward you the URL if you're interested. Some of us play around here as well. enjoy. Vic