For truckers driving EVs, there’s no going back

[Synthaholic]

From my Award-Winning 2015 thread.

‘Scandalous’ Solyndra Program Actually Earned Taxpayers A $5 Billion Profit​

 

[Synthaholic]

An example of Republican group-think, and Republicans being wrong about everything.

This just shows how much of a failer solar is. It doesn't hold up within the market even with loans.

 

[petro]

On homes it works.....to power the entire gridi it does not work......not even close.

I see idiots with those on their roofs here in MN on asphalt shingle roofs.
How well do they work with two feet of snow on them?

The homeowners are also in for a rude awakening when they eventually have to replace that roof and have the added cost of removing then replacing all those panels.

Electric savings...erased.

 

[2aguy]

Who cares? You fuckwits are always moving the goalposts whenever you get your ass handed to you.

No, this has been a standard problem with EVs.....they take forever to charge.......and lose that charge faster in cold weather. That and the child slave labor to get the lithium and the pollution they generate ....

 

[Synthaholic]

First cars, now trucks: Biden takes aim at tailpipe pollution
The EPA rule could prompt pushback from the truck industry, which has fought a rapid transition away from diesel-powered vehicles


Rayan Makarem worries about the air that his 2-year-old daughter breathes. More than 100 diesel-powered trucks rumble through their neighborhood every half an hour, spewing harmful pollutants linked to asthma and other health conditions.

The pollution in their community — and others like it nationwide — will be curbed under a climate change rule the Environmental Protection Agency finalized Friday. The rule will require manufacturers to slash emissions of greenhouse gases from new trucks, delivery vans and buses. Those limits, in turn, will reduce deadly particulate matter and lung-damaging nitrogen dioxide from such vehicles.

“Now that I have a 2-year-old kid, we actually try to avoid playing outside when there is bad air,” said Makarem, who lives in Kansas City, Kan., and is a spokesman for the Moving Forward Network, a group that advocates for reducing pollution in disadvantaged communities. “Hopefully, this is a step in the right direction.”

The EPA rule follows strict emissions limits for gas-powered cars aimed at accelerating the nation’s halting transition to electric vehicles. It marks the first time in more than two decades that the federal government has cracked down on pollution from diesel trucks.

The rule doesn’t go as far as Makarem and other environmental justice advocates would like. The Moving Forward Network had urged the EPA to require all new trucks to be zero-emission by 2035.

Yet EPA officials said the rule will not mandate the adoption of a particular zero-emission technology. Rather, it will require manufacturers to reduce emissions by choosing from several cleaner technologies, including electric trucks, hybrid trucks and hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles.

 

[Rigby5]

The more people are exposed to EVs the more they like them. As more talk radio junkie truck drivers start loving EV trucks, they will start to ask themselves "What else are these rightwing talkers lying to me about?".

For truckers driving EVs, there’s no going back​

Gary LaBush remembers the first time he sat behind the wheel of an electric Ford e-transit delivery truck at the Frito-Lay distribution center in Queens. Like most first-time EV truck drivers, LaBush wondered if the vehicle was actually on. “I was like, ‘What’s going on?’” he recalled. “There was no noise — and no fumes.”

Now, LaBush trains other drivers on how to operate a fleet of 40 delivery trucks at the Frito-Lay facility. The 49-year-old, who has worked at the company for over two decades, said he would struggle if he had to return to gas. “I wouldn’t want to do it,” he said. “After being in this — it’s just night and day.”

LaBush belongs to a small but growing group of commercial medium-to-heavy-duty truck drivers who use electric trucks. These drivers — many of whom operate local or regional routes that don’t require hundreds of miles on the road in a day — generally welcome the transition to electric, praising their new trucks’ handling, acceleration, smoothness and quiet operation.

But some companies and trucking associations worry this shift, spurred in part by a California law mandating a switch to electric or emissions-free trucks by 2042, is happening too fast. While electric trucks might work well in some cases, they argue, the upfront costs of the vehicles and their charging infrastructure are often too heavy a lift.

For the United States to meet its climate goals, virtually all trucks must be zero-emissions by 2050. While trucks are only 4 percent of the vehicles on the road, they make up almost a quarter of the country’s transportation emissions.

On most of America’s roads, electric trucks are an anomaly. According to an Environmental Defense Fund analysis of the nation’s 12.2 million truck fleet, there are almost 13,000 electric trucks — which can be defined as Class 2B to Class 8 vehicles, or anything from a step-up van to a large tractor-trailer — on the road today. Around 10,000 of those trucks were just put on the road in 2023, up from 2,000 the year before.

First of all, EV trucks are NOT "zero emissions", but since coal is the main source of electricity, EVs increase emissions.
The reality is that diesel emits less pollution than the electrical power plants.
And due to the heavy weight of batteries, EV trucks carry half as much cargo.
And they still need recharging every 3 hours.

The real solution is hydrogen or some bio fuel.
The can actually reach zero emissions.
Hydrogen can be created by nuclear power plants, and bio diesel can absorb more CO2 than produced when burned.

 

[Rigby5]

First cars, now trucks: Biden takes aim at tailpipe pollution
The EPA rule could prompt pushback from the truck industry, which has fought a rapid transition away from diesel-powered vehicles


Rayan Makarem worries about the air that his 2-year-old daughter breathes. More than 100 diesel-powered trucks rumble through their neighborhood every half an hour, spewing harmful pollutants linked to asthma and other health conditions.

The pollution in their community — and others like it nationwide — will be curbed under a climate change rule the Environmental Protection Agency finalized Friday. The rule will require manufacturers to slash emissions of greenhouse gases from new trucks, delivery vans and buses. Those limits, in turn, will reduce deadly particulate matter and lung-damaging nitrogen dioxide from such vehicles.

“Now that I have a 2-year-old kid, we actually try to avoid playing outside when there is bad air,” said Makarem, who lives in Kansas City, Kan., and is a spokesman for the Moving Forward Network, a group that advocates for reducing pollution in disadvantaged communities. “Hopefully, this is a step in the right direction.”

The EPA rule follows strict emissions limits for gas-powered cars aimed at accelerating the nation’s halting transition to electric vehicles. It marks the first time in more than two decades that the federal government has cracked down on pollution from diesel trucks.

The rule doesn’t go as far as Makarem and other environmental justice advocates would like. The Moving Forward Network had urged the EPA to require all new trucks to be zero-emission by 2035.

Yet EPA officials said the rule will not mandate the adoption of a particular zero-emission technology. Rather, it will require manufacturers to reduce emissions by choosing from several cleaner technologies, including electric trucks, hybrid trucks and hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles.

Wrong.
Diesel trucks are much cleaner than the electrical power plants.
Particulates are large and heavy, so quickly settle out.
NOx is from heat not the combustion of fuel, and quickly decomposes back to N2 and O2.

The cleanest and best possible technologies would be hydrogen combustion engines, or bio diesels.