Cease Fire in Gaza but Not in Ukraine?

[jwoodie]

US policy seems to be in favor of a cease fire in Gaza but not in Ukraine. Since both areas have been invaded by outside countries, why is there a difference?

 

[OldFlame]

Great question. One is making our pols rich, the other is not, therein lies the answer.

 

[Edgetho]

Great question. One is making our pols rich, the other is not, therein lies the answer.

dimocraps are, by their very nature, thieves and criminals. They would steal from the dead or from -- Anybody. It's their nature. Period.. If they see an opportunity to steal something, anything, they will take it. Period.

That said, Russia, in one form or another, has been the source of most of the world's problems for over 100 years. Just a fact.

From introducing the world to the wonders of communism and Gulags, to siding with Hitler to start WW2, to starting conflicts in Korea, Viet Nam, Malaysia, Cuba, Venezuela, Africa and about 50 other Countries, Russia just simply sucks ass. I don't care who is leading them. No matter which gangsters are occupying the Kremlin, it seems that's where all the world's shit starts.

The Ukrainians lived under Russian rule for 75 years. The Russians murdered and starved thtem by the million. Not a few thousand here and there -- MILLIONS.

And now Russia wants to bring them back into their circle of evil, death, darkness and depravity and the Ukes would rather die than go through that again. I don't blame them.

And as long as they're willing to kill Russians, we should support them in any way we can.

Don't shit yourself, Russians never stop. Never. Not until they are dead. I say we help the Ukes with everything we can give them.

Maybe if we had a real president instead of a Sponge Brains Shits Pants, we wouldn't be in this situation. What with his idiotic "Minor Incursion" stupidity (which dimocrap scum have completely forgotten about)... Oh well, we can't turn back time.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/kremlin-russia-nato/2024/04/04/id/1159771/

Russia and NATO are now in "direct confrontation," the Kremlin said as the U.S.-led alliance marked its 75th anniversary on Thursday.

NATO's successive waves of eastern enlargement are a fixation of President Vladimir Putin, who went to war in Ukraine two years ago with the stated aim of preventing the alliance from coming closer to Russia's borders. Instead, the war has galvanized NATO, which has expanded again with the entry of Finland and Sweden.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters: "In fact, relations have now slipped to the level of direct confrontation.

 

[jwoodie]

dimocraps are, by their very nature, thieves and criminals. They would steal from the dead or from -- Anybody. It's their nature. Period.. If they see an opportunity to steal something, anything, they will take it. Period.

That said, Russia, in one form or another, has been the source of most of the world's problems for over 100 years. Just a fact.

From introducing the world to the wonders of communism and Gulags, to siding with Hitler to start WW2, to starting conflicts in Korea, Viet Nam, Malaysia, Cuba, Venezuela, Africa and about 50 other Countries, Russia just simply sucks ass. I don't care who is leading them. No matter which gangsters are occupying the Kremlin, it seems that's where all the world's shit starts.

The Ukrainians lived under Russian rule for 75 years. The Russians murdered and starved thtem by the million. Not a few thousand here and there -- MILLIONS.

And now Russia wants to bring them back into their circle of evil, death, darkness and depravity and the Ukes would rather die than go through that again. I don't blame them.

And as long as they're willing to kill Russians, we should support them in any way we can.

Don't shit yourself, Russians never stop. Never. Not until they are dead. I say we help the Ukes with everything we can give them.

Maybe if we had a real president instead of a Sponge Brains Shits Pants, we wouldn't be in this situation. What with his idiotic "Minor Incursion" stupidity (which dimocrap scum have completely forgotten about)... Oh well, we can't turn back time.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/kremlin-russia-nato/2024/04/04/id/1159771/

Russia and NATO are now in "direct confrontation," the Kremlin said as the U.S.-led alliance marked its 75th anniversary on Thursday.

NATO's successive waves of eastern enlargement are a fixation of President Vladimir Putin, who went to war in Ukraine two years ago with the stated aim of preventing the alliance from coming closer to Russia's borders. Instead, the war has galvanized NATO, which has expanded again with the entry of Finland and Sweden.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters: "In fact, relations have now slipped to the level of direct confrontation.

How about Gaza? What is the difference? Why didn't you vote?

 

[Edgetho]

How about Gaza? What is the difference? Why didn't you vote?

Gaza? Those aren't people, they're a disease. Destroy every single one of them. No quarter, no mercy. Cut them if they stand, shoot them if they run. All of them.

 

[jwoodie]

Gaza? Those aren't people, they're a disease. Destroy every single one of them. No quarter, no mercy. Cut them if they stand, shoot them if they run. All of them.

Take your meds and answer the question.

 

[Edgetho]

Take your meds and answer the question.

eatadikk

 

[TNHarley]

IDC about either war. I just want to stop funding them.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Yep.

 

[BluesLegend]

IDC about either war. I just want to stop funding them.

If Ukraine is that important Biden should sell all his homes and assets and give his wealth to Ukraine. Stop borrowing money and sticking me with the bill for his pet wars.

 

[tyroneweaver]

US policy seems to be in favor of a cease fire in Gaza but not in Ukraine. Since both areas have been invaded by outside countries, why is there a difference?

ukraine is a cash cow for dems
Ukraine to Biden is like Lyndon Johnson's great society. Just throw money at it
and we all know how well this is working out
Russian is about to bomb the $$$$ out of Ukraine second largest city

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

Ukraine and Israel have become extremely profitable lobbying topics for a number of Americans. Israel for a much longer time. As Ukraine was a part of the Soviet Union for decades and a topic of not considerable interest to the media and Hollywood until Russia invaded Ukraine.

I think the USA should not be involved at all in either Israel or Ukraine so I’m not sure how to answer the threads question in light of that view.

But one fact we all know is there is a massive difference between Israel invading Gaza and Russia invading Ukraine. And that is that the Russians are facing an actual military. Israel is not facing a real military. Israel is facing people with stones and AK-47s… it is David versus Goliath.

 

[frigidweirdo]

US policy seems to be in favor of a cease fire in Gaza but not in Ukraine. Since both areas have been invaded by outside countries, why is there a difference?

Difference is Hamas started it and the Ukraine didn't.

 

[luiza]

US policy seems to be in favor of a cease fire in Gaza but not in Ukraine. Since both areas have been invaded by outside countries, why is there a difference?

I saw the US and their Kyiv proxy stooges fight in Donbass for 8 years , provoking on a daily basis and then lining up an army of 180000 ready to invade Donbass .

I saw the exact same tactic with Nazi Israel -- provoking for years and then inviting and allowing an invasion so that they could pretend to have clean hands .

Same filthy hands -- CIA and Mossad .

 

[jwoodie]

Difference is Hamas started it and the Ukraine didn't.

So you are opposed to a ceasefire in both instances?

 

[Blaster]

Ukraine should have negotiated with Russia to avoid war.

 

[jwoodie]

Ukraine should have negotiated with Russia to avoid war.

But that would have turned off the money spigot from the US.

 

[bendog]

Ukraine should have negotiated with Russia to avoid war.

yeah, like become part of russian again.

But Ukraine could never win because Russia was always going to go to its population, and eve though sanctions have changed Russian society and its economy, by making it less competitive with the west, the people who haven't fled were not by and large winners in the global markets.

Zelensky refused the US military advice to NOT try a broad based counter attack in 2023. And Trump led Maga to cut aid until Johnson briefly broke ranks after being briefed upon becoming speaker.

But it's a good question as to whether Biden and Nato are involved in some negotiated end to the war. Zelensky has reason to doubt any Nato guarantees, but it seems to me that Nato is actually less fickle than the US at this point. It's possibly up to Jina, but Xi wants Taiwan.

 

[BlindBoo]

Ukraine did not launch a terrorist assault with the aim of killing as many Russians as possible did they? Nope they were invaded when the Russian aligned government was overthrown in a popular revolution, because the people wanted to align with Europe, not the former USSR. Israel has the right to kill or capture any and all terrorists who were involved in the Oct 7th massacre.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So you are opposed to a ceasefire in both instances?

It would be nice if people could stop killing each other and could sit down and talk about things.

But this is the real world, Putin is winning, and he didn't want a cease fire when he wasn't winning. Israel is winning, why would they want a cease fire? They're getting what they've always wanted, a chance at destroying Hamas.

One thing is what would be nice, the other is reality.