CDZ you have NO right to anyone else's money

[9thIDdoc]

Do you agree that you own the things that you create with your own hands? (Do not answer. Just think about that for a long while.)

Don't need long. I own what I create until and unless I trade it off at which time I no longer own it.

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[presonorek]

Do you agree that you own the things that you create with your own hands? (Do not answer. Just think about that for a long while.)

Don't need long. I own what I create until and unless I trade it off at which time I no longer own it.

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What if someone or some group owns a business or an organization? Does the owner(s) of that business or organization own the things created by their employee's hands? (Do not answer. Just think about that for a long while.)

 

[9thIDdoc]

What if someone or some group owns a business or an organization? Does the owner(s) of that business or organization own the things created by their employee's hands? (Do not answer. Just think about that for a long while.)[/QUOTE]

If it is made at work, yes.

 

[presonorek]

If it is made at work, yes.

These rules regarding property rights do apply to the federal reserve as well. The federal reserve is not loaning you money just because they are nice. The federal reserve is loaning you money because it improves the economic strength of our nation which in turn makes the federal reserve more profitable.

The federal reserve is a great example of how corruption is used to make the world turn. Imagine what it would be like if we were paid in refrigerators, tennis shoes, flash drives, candles, furniture or calendars. It would make the economy very bulky and slow. Money encourages people to create which encourages others to create which encourages others to create. If the federal reserve ever got greedy and asked for all of their dollars back then the entire system would cease to function. It is in the federal reserve's best interest to continue loaning these dollars out to poor suckers like you and me.

You can deny the truth if you wish but this is how our money has worked since 1913. Money is owned collectively by "We the People". That is why I don't understand why people say that the United States is becoming a socialist country. That's ludicrous. We have been a socialist country since the federal reserve act of 1913 was passed. It seems to be working pretty good. Without the federal reserve we would have already suffered hyperinflation and would have been on our third, fourth or even fifth currency by now. The Federal Reserve is an amazing system. Our country wasn't the first to use it. When a government prints their own money there is no reason to stop printing except the lack of paper. A centralized banking system does not loan to the government unless it is convinced that it can be repaid. This prevents the government from overspending. (lol) I know that's funny to us but it really does provide that function. Zimbabwe's history has the best example of what can happen without a central bank.

 

[Skull Pilot]

People who choose to have no kids are taxed more heavily than those that do.

Sorry but why should I pay more because I chose not to procreate when those that do obviously use more public resources.

 

[presonorek]

People who choose to have no kids are taxed more heavily than those that do.

Sorry but why should I pay more because I chose not to procreate when those that do obviously use more public resources.

Because elected officials say so. It really is that simple. The law could easily be changed to penalize people with kids. All it takes is a majority of congress, majority of Senate and the president to think that it would be best for our country then it would be done.

Our government doesn't make laws for the sole benefit of Skull Pilot or vasuderatorrent. They make laws based upon the benefit to everybody as a whole entity.

 

[presonorek]

People who choose to have no kids are taxed more heavily than those that do.

Sorry but why should I pay more because I chose not to procreate when those that do obviously use more public resources.

Here is a video on how it all works.

 

[9thIDdoc]

" The federal reserve is not loaning you money just because they are nice"

The federal reserve is not loaning me money at all. None of my money came from the federal reserve..

 

[presonorek]

None of my money came from the federal reserve..

That is monopoly money. You can't use monopoly money to pay your taxes. I thought you were talking about Federal Reserve Notes.

Notes have to be repaid. Have you noticed in recent years that tax returns round to the nearest dollar? Quarters, dimes, nickles and pennies aren't federal reserve notes. It is also illegal to pay your federal income taxes in coin. Your coins belong to you as far as I understand it. Very few employers would be willing to pay your salary in quarters.

You can pretend that you don't believe me. That's fine. I won't tell anybody that you understand real life.

Go back to your nintendo games and enjoy your fantasy. Pay no attention to me. Keep pretending those dollars belong to you for 364 days per year. On April 15 you can join us in reality for a few minutes. I know that you do pay your taxes. If you were completely willing to ignore reality then you wouldn't be paying your taxes every year. You acknowledge reality. You are just venting your frustrations with us. Don't worry. I understand.

 

[Skull Pilot]

People who choose to have no kids are taxed more heavily than those that do.

Sorry but why should I pay more because I chose not to procreate when those that do obviously use more public resources.

Here is a video on how it all works.

How a bill is passed has nothing to do with the reasoning behind it now does it?

 

[presonorek]

People who choose to have no kids are taxed more heavily than those that do.

Sorry but why should I pay more because I chose not to procreate when those that do obviously use more public resources.

Here is a video on how it all works.

How a bill is passed has nothing to do with the reasoning behind it now does it?

The reasoning behind it will always be unknown. Nobody can read minds. The thing that matters is a congressman's vote. It doesn't matter how he/she came to the conclusion to vote the way he/she does.

What do you speculate is the reasoning that the tax code rewards people with children and penalizes people without children? I have a theory that I will share if you will share your theory first.

 

[Skull Pilot]

People who choose to have no kids are taxed more heavily than those that do.

Sorry but why should I pay more because I chose not to procreate when those that do obviously use more public resources.

Here is a video on how it all works.

How a bill is passed has nothing to do with the reasoning behind it now does it?

The reasoning behind it will always be unknown. Nobody can read minds. The thing that matters is a congressman's vote. It doesn't matter how he/she came to the conclusion to vote the way he/she does.

What do you speculate is the reasoning that the tax code rewards people with children and penalizes people without children? I have a theory that I will share if you will share your theory first.

I can't think of a good reason why people who use less public resources have to pay more because there is no good reason

 

[presonorek]

I can't think of a good reason why people who use less public resources have to pay more because there is no good reason

You seem to lack imagination or honesty. Are you serious? You can't make any wild guesses?

 

[9thIDdoc]

That is monopoly money. You can't use monopoly money to pay your taxes.

Sure you can. Do you imagine a check, money order or electronic transfer has any more intrinsic value than paper money?

 

[presonorek]

That is monopoly money. You can't use monopoly money to pay your taxes.

Sure you can. Do you imagine a check, money order or electronic transfer has any more intrinsic value than paper money?

I haven't gotten that part figured out either.