You guys really do need to leash your activist mod

[Natural Citizen]

I just had a perfectly legal, relevant post that was made in response to another poster deleted, accompanied by a smartass message that said "Read the rules"

There was nothing at all against the rules in what I said.

Someone mentioned about all of the threads a certain poster starts on a daily basis about the same topic and I responded to that poster saying ''naggers gonna nag''

Because that's really what it boils down to. Just constant nag fest revolving around a specific member's pet peeves with regard to specific demographics of people he doesn't like. That the particular poster's pet peeve serves as confirmation for the personal views of the unleashed does not in any way condone malfeasant moderation.

You don't have to respond here. I don't even care about your response.

Just get it on a leash, please. Perhaps give it a copy of the rules.

Consider it feedback.

Nothing should be construed from anyone's content on here in any way other than what it actually says.

 

[Oddball]

Noobs gonna noob.

 

[okfine]

I just had a perfectly legal, relevant post that was made in response to another poster deleted, accompanied by a smartass message that said "Read the rules"

There was nothing at all against the rules in what I said.

Someone mentioned about all of the threads a certain poster starts on a daily basis about the same topic and I responded to that poster saying ''naggers gonna nag''

Because that's really what it boils down to. Just constant nag fest revolving around a specific member's pet peeves with regard to specific demographics of people he doesn't like. That the particular poster's pet peeve serves as confirmation for the personal views of the unleashed does not in any way condone malfeasant moderation.

You don't have to respond here. I don't even care about your response.

Just get her on a leash, please. Perhaps give her a copy of the rules.

Consider it feedback.

Now whaat?

 

[Sunsettommy]

Why is there a recent run of whining posts about moderation actions?

Really the rules are clear if you have a complaint about moderation actions talk about it through the PM system.

• No Discussing infractions, bans, banned members, or specific moderator actions or duties on the open boards. Issues with moderation should be taken up privately with moderators in PM.

The rest of us are not involved in this.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Why is there a recent run of whining posts about moderation actions?

Really the rules are clear if you have a complaint about moderation actions talk about it through the PM system.

• No Discussing infractions, bans, banned members, or specific moderator actions or duties on the open boards. Issues with moderation should be taken up privately with moderators in PM.

The rest of us are not involved in this.

Who are you, the mod secretary or something?

Every one of these threads you show up with the same spew, like you're their secretary or something.


I'm not whining about anything, motherfucker, I'm providing feedback.

 

[bodecea]

Gee, I wonder what mod is out of con-trol........................

 

[Sunsettommy]

Who are you, the mod secretary or something?

Every one of these threads you show up with the same spew, like you're their secretary or something.


I'm not whining about anything, motherfucker, I'm providing feedback.

Who wrote this whine?

"I just had a perfectly legal, relevant post that was made in response to another poster deleted, accompanied by a smartass message that said "Read the rules"

There was nothing at all against the rules in what I said."

By the way you just violated Zone one rules as Announcements is a ZONE ONE area

I was trying to be helpful is all.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Gee, I wonder what mod is out of con-trol........................

Get back in your hole, wench.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

As the mod that deleted your reply in a Zone 1 thread, I suggest you tell ALL OF US how YOUR post was on topic!

 

[Natural Citizen]

As the mod that deleted your reply in a Zone 1 thread, I suggest you tell ALL OF US how YOUR post was on topic!

Perhaps I think things through deeper than you do and am a bit more competent to place an op into perspective with its intent.

Ever think of that?

Anyway. As I said, I don't even care for a response.

Consider it feedback.

I need an extended break from this clown show anyway. I should be around my own people. You people are nuts. Absolutely nuts.

Oddball, you're alright though.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

You want to go public with a complaint about a post of yours being removed in a Zone 1 thread that had nothing to do with the subject of said thread AND you don't want to understand why it was removed. Did you start this thread (in violation of forum rules) as a means to gather attention from others? Here's what I deleted:

I take it you didn't bother to go look and see that you weren't the only person that had replies removed from view for being off topic in Zone 1. Nope, you probably thought it was just you. I guess you don't think so "deep" after all. I could also add in that "naggers" could be perceived as a play on a word that is banned on USMB, but I'd thinking too deep into that for you.

 

[theHawk]

Yup, they need to axe the radical leftwinger mod(s).

They are just too unhinged and don’t follow the rules themselves.

 

[Natural Citizen]

You want to go public with a complaint about a post of yours being removed in a Zone 1 thread that had nothing to do with the subject of said thread AND you don't want to understand why it was removed. Did you start this thread (in violation of forum rules) as a means to gather attention from others? Here's what I deleted:

View attachment 656668

I take it you didn't bother to go look and see that you weren't the only person that had replies removed from view for being off topic in Zone 1. Nope, you probably thought it was just you. I guess you don't think so "deep" after all. I could also add in that "naggers" could be perceived as a play on a word that is banned on USMB, but I'd thinking too deep into that for you.

I don't care what you ''perceive'' something to be. That's not how it works.

You're supposed to moderate actual content.

So far as other people's content being scrubbed, what's that got to do with me? That's collectivist logic.

And there was nothing against the rules in that post anyway.

Anyway. As I said, I'm taking an extended break. You people are nuts. Really. Absolutely nuts. You're like children.

 

[toobfreak]

I take it you didn't bother to go look and see that you weren't the only person that had replies removed

To be fair, Aye, don't you think it a bit unreasonable to expect members to notice other posts being removed and missing in a given thread when unless someone had a phenomenal photographic memory, a person is lucky to even remember their own posts in a given thread? Especially as I suspect the average person here is jumping from thread to thread to thread as they read and write, unless a specific comment was inserted by a mod in the thread saying that extensive posts had been removed for xyz reason. Even then, that doesn't mean that a person SAW it, as, speaking for myself, I rarely read any given thread through from end to end serially. I'm usually mainly just focused on the OP.

And as I've said before, if you want to run all these zones with different rules, then the zone a given thread is in should be self-evident as you read and type--- one of the biggest flaws in Xenforo is that as set up now, one post or thread in Zone One looks exactly like any other. A different color scheme or nailed-up banner, etc., would go a long way of solving that problem.

I could also add in that "naggers" could be perceived as a play on a word that is banned on USMB, but I'd thinking too deep into that for you.

Sarcasm both unnecessary and unprofessional. The word nag, nagged, nagging and nagger is a common word which fit perfectly in the context used. So now are you implying people should be cognizant of considering every word they use and how it might possibly be misconstrued by others? Even when, if the alternate interpretation is imagined, then the OP was saying: n@#gers gonna nig? What is a nig? I just tried looking that up and apparently 'nig' is accepted as urban slang--- one meaning is to get screwed over.

BOTTOM LINE is that the zone structure, the rule structure and the page structure here are all highly unfriendly to the end user, overly complicated, arbitrary and constantly changing. I see posts here every day 100X more off topic than this. Removing naggers as OT in the context used was specious at best and suggesting it might be interpreted as hinting at racial slang is bordering on the ridiculous, Aye. This is political correctness taken to the level of insanity. But what most concerns me is that OTOH, we have a feedback forum here ASKING for FB, yet when people GIVE feedback, I rarely see it ever taken constructively at all much less acted on with interest and appreciation.

 

[Coyote]

You want to go public with a complaint about a post of yours being removed in a Zone 1 thread that had nothing to do with the subject of said thread AND you don't want to understand why it was removed. Did you start this thread (in violation of forum rules) as a means to gather attention from others? Here's what I deleted:

View attachment 656668

I take it you didn't bother to go look and see that you weren't the only person that had replies removed from view for being off topic in Zone 1. Nope, you probably thought it was just you. I guess you don't think so "deep" after all. I could also add in that "naggers" could be perceived as a play on a word that is banned on USMB, but I'd thinking too deep into that for you.

When folks try to dance to close to the line of the rule, they risk getting burned. He made a choice knowingly. To whine about it, and “out of control mods” is a bit embarrassing …

Maybe there will be a flounce.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Yup, they need to axe the radical leftwinger mod(s).

They are just too unhinged and don’t follow the rules themselves.

I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes or out here about moderator actions since there is a lot more going on than you could possibly know about something happening behind the scenes, but this thread is still here despite that it has at least two rules' violations in it one noted by the Moderator herself at POST 11 and the other at POST 5 that was directed at me with insults a rules violation for ZONE ONE, I didn't report it for a reason you likely not understand.

You have hurt your credibility badly by taking your complaint about moderator actions in public area a Rules Violations and then insult me who was trying to be helpful your immaturity didn't help your case at all.

 

[toobfreak]

But what most concerns me is that OTOH, we have a feedback forum here ASKING for FB, yet when people GIVE feedback, I rarely see it ever taken constructively at all much less acted on with interest and appreciation.

When folks try to dance to[o] close to the line of the rule, they risk getting burned. He made a choice knowingly. To whine about it, and “out of control mods” is a bit embarrassing …

Gee, that didn't take long! Thanks for making my point Mrs. C-- -- do you really think Natural Citizen was intending to "dance to[o] close to the line of the rule?" WHAT rule? What line? Are you people so out of touch that you think we members see all these "lines?" How can you dance along the edge of a rule when many rules are so vague in their definition, arbitrarily imposed AND often said to be not even written down anywhere as is often said?!

WHAT rule demands that a post making a lighthearted comment about people nagging be removed as off-topic trolling, yet permits flotsam like Unkatore to post off topic trolling like his Boo Hoo above (which I only saw because I removed the IGNORE function to see what the Retired Sarge was referring to)?

Rules which are inconsistently and unevenly applied are simply not rules at all, but too often simply decompose into becomeing weapons to be wielded against members people don't like.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I just had a perfectly legal, relevant post that was made in response to another poster deleted, accompanied by a smartass message that said "Read the rules"

There was nothing at all against the rules in what I said.

Someone mentioned about all of the threads a certain poster starts on a daily basis about the same topic and I responded to that poster saying ''naggers gonna nag''

Because that's really what it boils down to. Just constant nag fest revolving around a specific member's pet peeves with regard to specific demographics of people he doesn't like. That the particular poster's pet peeve serves as confirmation for the personal views of the unleashed does not in any way condone malfeasant moderation.

You don't have to respond here. I don't even care about your response.

Just get it on a leash, please. Perhaps give it a copy of the rules.

Consider it feedback.

Nothing should be construed from anyone's content on here in any way other than what it actually says.

Who's the mod. Often mods are just handling reported posts

 

[Coyote]

To be fair, Aye, don't you think it a bit unreasonable to expect members to notice other posts being removed and missing in a given thread when unless someone had a phenomenal photographic memory, a person is lucky to even remember their own posts in a given thread? Especially as I suspect the average person here is jumping from thread to thread to thread as they read and write, unless a specific comment was inserted by a mod in the thread saying that extensive posts had been removed for xyz reason. Even then, that doesn't mean that a person SAW it, as, speaking for myself, I rarely read any given thread through from end to end serially. I'm usually mainly just focused on the OP.

Toob, this is an example of what happens when you don’t what goes on behind the scenes. Of course you you might not notice what all gets deleted, but typically a lot does. That’s partly why we ask you to take via PM Instead of constant (from this member) public announcements or off topic thread derailments attacking moderation. Aye is actually being really nice to let this thread stay open.

And as I've said before, if you want to run all these zones with different rules, then the zone a given thread is in should be self-evident as you read and type--- one of the biggest flaws in Xenforo is that as set up now, one post or thread in Zone One looks exactly like any other. A different color scheme or nailed-up banner, etc., would go a long way of solving that problem.

I agree with you on the clarity at times, but we do our best. Unfortunately we can’t do anything directly, it all goes through the admins and it sometimes hard to get things done that would improve the organization. I don’t know what is possible in Xenfro (do you)? Are any of your suggestions things that software can do?

Sarcasm both unnecessary and unprofessional. The word nag, nagged, nagging and nagger is a common word which fit perfectly in the context used. So now are you implying people should be cognizant of considering every word they use and how it might possibly be misconstrued by others? Even when, if the alternate interpretation is imagined, then the OP was saying: n@#gers gonna nig? What is a nig? I just tried looking that up and apparently 'nig' is accepted as urban slang--- one meaning is to get screwed over.

I went and looked at the deleted post in the context of that thread about race, and in context with the other deleted posts there. Nagger was not meant as one who nags. I came to the same conclusion Aye did. It was a way to get around the word filter. It’s kind of like porn…we can’t exactly define it, but we know it when we see it. In general…don’t make us have to think about and walking close to the edge of the rule means eventually you’re going to overstep.

BOTTOM LINE is that the zone structure, the rule structure and the page structure here are all highly unfriendly to the end user, overly complicated, arbitrary and constantly changing. I see posts here every day 100X more off topic than this. Removing naggers as OT in the context used was specious at best and suggesting it might be interpreted as hinting at racial slang is bordering on the ridiculous, Aye. This is political correctness taken to the level of insanity. But what most concerns me is that OTOH, we have a feedback forum here ASKING for FB, yet when people GIVE feedback, I rarely see it ever taken constructively at all much less acted on with interest and appreciation.

Is he asking for feedback? Or is he using it to complain about specific moderator actions? Is there any reason he couldn’t have pm’d a mod of his choice and asked for feedback in accordance with one very clear rule that HAS broken multiple times already?

And the sarcasm? I thought she was pretty restrained given all this could have and should have taken place via PM.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Yup, they need to axe the radical leftwinger mod(s).

They are just too unhinged and don’t follow the rules themselves.

Unhinged we be. Mod we must!