Would the woman still flock to churches if Jesus looked like Danny DeVito

[HaShev]

In creating an image of course the creators are gonna make that image full of "beauty and perfection" (prophecy on Lucifer's image) to make it more appealing a sell. But, what if the characters used for that image looked nowhere near like the thin hippy with flowing hair? What if some of the characters looked like Danny DeVito?
Would the predominant audience of woman still flock and make up most of the church congregations and Evangelists gatherings?

 

[yiostheoy]

According to the "gospel" stories themselves, Jesus did attract a lot of people including women.

But then it is also possible that "Martha and Mary" were ugly ducklings too.

Ugly ducklings tend to flock together.

The Isaiah messianic prophecy predicts that the Messiah would be ugly though.

However Medieval Christian art paints Jesus as beautiful with long hair.

He would certainly never have had long hair.

But this comes from the confusion of the difference between a Nazarite and a Nazarene.

I would guess the real Jesus was tall, dark haired, dark bearded, and just another normal joe.

There is Jewish tradition that he had blue eyes therefore inferred that he was the illegitimate son of a Roman officer named Panther. There is Jewish tradition that he was tall too, like the Romans.

 

[zaangalewa]

Danny de Vito, the twin of Arnold Schwarzenegger, looks like Jesus?

Heyyy ...

You got it.

 

[strollingbones]

the blonde blue eyed jesus......what a fable....why tall....i would not think tall at all...perhaps tall compared to the rest of the short people...

 

[yiostheoy]

Jesus died at 33 or 40, whichever timeline you believe, 5 BC or 1 AD for his birth.

So he would not look as old as DeVito.

He would be a young guy with hair, not a bald old man.

 

[yiostheoy]

the blonde blue eyed jesus......what a fable....why tall....i would not think tall at all...perhaps tall compared to the rest of the short people...

The blue eyes and the tallness comes from Jewish tradition.

It is used to discount the story about Hallowed Patrimony (for Mary).

The story goes that she was a strumpet for Romans and one of her clients/boyfriends was Panther the Centurion.

Italians often have blue eyes. Green eyes too. Not just dark brown.

My own personal view is that the stories told my St. Matthew and St. Luke are accurate, and that Mary had a theophany, and the child Jesus was born of God who is his Father -- Catholic view.

Jewish tradition is the only account that we have of what Jesus probably looked like -- blue eyes and tall like a half breed Roman.

 

[Vastator]

If there was money involved? You betcha!

 

[strollingbones]

is it true the only time jesus was pissed off..was when he was in a church?

 

[yiostheoy]

is it true the only time jesus was pissed off..was when he was in a church?

"Church" is the Gothic word that refers to an assembly of Christians.

So no, you cannot say that.

Jesus overturned the money tables at the Jewish temple at the top of the acropolis in Jerusalem 2 years in a row.

Ostensibly he did it to give the Sanhedrin cause against him.

His mission was to be killed for the sins of the world.

 

[strollingbones]

okay your profile page says nothing...who are you and why do you know all this stuff....i will admit to being impressed....but then again i could just be easily impressed

 

[sealybobo]

View attachment 82990 In creating an image of course the creators are gonna make that image full of "beauty and perfection" (prophecy on Lucifer's image) to make it more appealing a sell. But, what if the characters used for that image looked nowhere near like the thin hippy with flowing hair? What if some of the characters looked like Danny DeVito?
Would the predominant audience of woman still flock and make up most of the church congregations and Evangelists gatherings?

Would people still watch porn if the star looked like Danny devito? Ask Ron jeremy

 

[HaShev]

Yios,
the son of Mary and Panthera was a 100bc character, and yes I suppose THAT FIGURE could be taller then the normal 5' Jew at the time being that we were a small people in that time period.
The measure of his height which is given as 15 palms and a half, is roughly
4 feet 6 inches. Thus the Danny DeVito analogy is valid in discussing.
Especially being a far cry from the over 6' figure in the forged shroud they luje to create a false image of.
We were a small race, back then they were only 5' on avg.
Both Tertullian and Celsus described Jesus as short and of mean appearance. The apocryphal Acts of John says Jesus was a man of small stature and Jesus's twin brother is described as small in the Syrian Acts of Thomas.
AND yes A Nazarene(guardian of the NT) is different then a Nazarite(person from Nazareth) and HaNotzrim (off shoot cult)and in fact fits into the description of Lucifer
(son of perdition) because Ezekiel 28:14-15 describes Lucifer as the Christ Nazarene (anointed "guardian"=cherub).
Made in an image of perfection (sinless image), until we see the iniquities in that silly false image.
That fits this discussion perfectly.
Regarding age: John says he was closer to 50 the son of Mary never came close to that age, so most likely this is the AD era Christ Theudas by the Jordan.
All this proves is that in compiling many figures an image of a man emerges as anything they want him to look like, since he can't look like any singular figure, this is also why the name and birthday is also created as it can't combine 3-4 it needs a new name & date for that new image.
This is also why the figure has 2 professions(carpenter & fisherman), 2 hometowns (Nazareth & Capernaum), 2 death sentences (hanging & crucified), 2 blames, 3 eras, etc
That being said, I'd like to know which Isaiah prophecy you think is messianic describing Moshiach, if it's Isaiah 53 then that is mistaken. It's not messianic, The
disfigured servant is Israel (plural) who's borders were made disfigured and people as well. Israel in context is mentioned 14 times as the servant in Isaiah, and Popular Jesus, according to NT, was and is served not qualifying as the Plural servant.

 

[strollingbones]

are you implying jesus was well endowed and could fellito himself? is that the correct word

 

[strollingbones]

back on serious topic....jesus twin brother? are you saying james the brother of jesus.....and i take it yall are jewish?

 

[yiostheoy]

Yios,
the son of Mary and Panthera was a 100bc character, and yes I suppose THAT FIGURE could be taller then the normal 5' Jew at the time being that we were a small people in that time period.
The measure of his height which is given as 15 palms and a half, is roughly
4 feet 6 inches. Thus the Danny DeVito analogy is valid in discussing.
Especially being a far cry from the over 6' figure in the forged shroud they luje to create a false image of.
We were a small race, back then they were only 5' on avg.
Both Tertullian and Celsus described Jesus as short and of mean appearance. The apocryphal Acts of John says Jesus was a man of small stature and Jesus's twin brother is described as small in the Syrian Acts of Thomas.
AND yes A Nazarene(guardian of the NT) is different then a Nazarite(person from Nazareth) and HaNotzrim (off shoot cult)and in fact fits into the description of Lucifer
(son of perdition) because Ezekiel 28:14-15 describes Lucifer as the Christ Nazarene (anointed "guardian"=cherub).
Made in an image of perfection (sinless image), until we see the iniquities in that silly false image.
That fits this discussion perfectly.
Regarding age: John says he was closer to 50 the son of Mary never came close to that age, so most likely this is the AD era Christ Theudas by the Jordan.
All this proves is that in compiling many figures an image of a man emerges as anything they want him to look like, since he can't look like any singular figure, this is also why the name and birthday is also created as it can't combine 3-4 it needs a new name & date for that new image.
This is also why the figure has 2 professions, 2 hometowns (Nazareth & Capernaum), 2 death sentences (hanging & crucified), 2 blames, 3 eras, etc
That being said, Icd like to know which Isaiah prophecy you think is messianic describing Moshiach, if it's IS 53 then that is mistaken. It's not messianic, The
disfigured servent is Israel (plural) who's borders were made disfigured and people as well. Israel in context is mentioned 14 times as the servant in Isaiah, and Popular Jesus, according to NT, was and is served not qualifying as the Plural servant.

You are very good. Thank you for the analysis.

 

[yiostheoy]

okay your profile page says nothing...who are you and why do you know all this stuff....i will admit to being impressed....but then again i could just be easily impressed

I read a lot, in Hebrew, in Greek, in Latin, as well as in English.

My Hebrew is not that good, but good enough to get around the Tenakh (Old Testament) and to order a room and breakfast in Israel.

My Greek is better, but just barely good enough to struggle through the Greek New Testament.

The Latin helps to understand how the Roman Church mistranslated a lot of Greek in the early history of the Church and came up with "mother of God" for Mary rather than "Mother of Christ" from the Greek.

Bottom line -- Jesus is NOT God -- Jesus is the SON OF GOD. That is abundantly clear from the ancient Greek.

 

[strollingbones]

do yall really believe this jesus existed? as one man etc and so forth....or is just another myth with trappings from stories told long before him?

 

[strollingbones]

a biblical scholar?

 

[yiostheoy]

back on serious topic....jesus twin brother? are you saying james the brother of jesus.....and i take it yall are jewish?

I am Catholic Christian.

Genetics are German, Greek, Danish, and Scottish, although mostly German and a lot of Greek.

No Jewish.

To understand Christianity you must also understand Judaism.

However there is a bright line drawn between Judaism and Christianity which most people do not understand.

You must find this line if you are Christian and you must stay on the Christian side of it.

 

[yiostheoy]

do yall really believe this jesus existed? as one man etc and so forth....or is just another myth with trappings from stories told long before him?

The two most maligned men in history are Moses and Jesus.

However the two men in history who influenced modern times the most are Moses and Jesus.

You should also add St. Peter, St. Paul, and the Emperor Constantine to this list as well though.

Those 5 men have influenced modern times more than any others.

So given their vast influence I would say it is a-priori self evident that each one of them lived and is each a historical figure.

And if not a-priori then definitely a-posteriori as well.

There can be no doubt.