Would someone please tell me these events never occurred?

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I guess primarily because THESE EVENTS never HAPPENED it is surprising how many people forget!
Idiots LIKE those that don't remember these events that NO OTHER President on the above list EVER EVER FACED in their presidency!
NEVER in 8 years did these events occur!
1) Recession that started with Clinton..2) Dot.com bust cost $8T..3) worst attack on USA 9/11..remember?? 4) worst hurricane SEASONS not just hurricanes!
IN Spite of these events : Average annual GDP growth over 8 years 2.9%
Obama's??? with NO EVENTS???
SIMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See Single Year of 3% GDP Growth
SIMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See Single Year of 3% GDP Growth

These events dramatically altered life in the USA!
Thousands of people died!
Trillions of dollars lost!
Millions of jobs gone!

Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Because idiots don't seem to comprehend... RECESSIONS are like large ships.. it takes miles to turn one...i.e. so does a "RECESSION"...
it doesn't just start the day NBER states... it is a slow degradation and it started under CLINTON!!!
Source: USATODAY.com - It's official: 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $8 trillion market loss... (Which meant jobs, tax revenue,etc. gone!)
Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $8 trillion in losses? Again Clinton laid claim BUT someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year!
$8 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue. PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $8 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies.
More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source:America Is Its Own Worst Enemy - Trapped In Irrational Exuberance | Zero Hedge

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!! 9/11 happened REMEMBER!!
Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York. Airlines shut down 3 days ...wall street 10 days!!!
Are you aware this happened???
Now before you idiots say "well Bush should have known"! DUMMIES... ever hear of the Gorelick Memo signed under CLINTON??
Gorelick Memo that created the wall between FBI & CIA thus no knowledge of the 9/11 bombers shared with the FBI!!! Looks especially imprudent 10 years later.
Because the memo created a barrier for U.S. intelligence agencies to share information with the FBI, one of its unintended consequences may have been to prevent the FBI from receiving the necessary intelligence to stop the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the worst in American history.
Gorelick Memo Allegedly Impeded Probe of Clinton Fundraising Scandal
1995 memo [Clinton presidency-concerned about Chinese election sales] Gorelick wrote, stated explicitly that they would “go beyond what is legally required, [to] prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.” GORELICK Memo!
Jamie Gorelick’s wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, already in custody on an immigration violation shortly before 9/11.
At the time, an enraged FBI investigator wrote a prophetic memo to headquarters about the wall.
Whatever has happened to this — someday someone will die — and wall or not — the public will not understand why we were not more effective in throwing every resource we had at certain problems…..
especially since the biggest threat to us UBL [Usama bin Laden], is getting the most protection.
So, a year before the 9/11 attacks, a special unit in the U.S. military was aware of the presence of an al-Queda cell in Brooklyn, New York, and sought to share its information with the FBI but was stopped cold.Why?Because (as described in the April 16, 2004 Washington Times piece) “on March 4, 1995, [Jamie Gorelick, the then number 2 official in the Clinton Justice Department, sent a 4-page directive] to FBI Director Louis Freeh and Mary Jo White, the New York-based U.S. attorney investigating the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
In the memo, Ms. Gorelick ordered Mr. Freeh and Ms. White to follow information-sharing procedures
that ‘go beyond what is legally required,’ in order to avoid ‘any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance’
that the Justice Department was using Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants, instead of ordinary criminal investigative procedures, in an effort to undermine the civil liberties of terrorism suspects.”
Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented? The Gorelick Memo and What We Knew

Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: http://bizfinance.about.com/od/currentevents/tp/Top_Ten_Fin_Events_Decade.htm

Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

$1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history. 2,215 lives lost
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.
Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/damage1980.asp

AND TARP has PAID back plus a $68 Billion Profit you dummy!
Oh and by the way, the solution i.e. TARP? Which idiots like you and Obama criticized YET OBAMA has benefited from in this fashion.
If it weren't for TARP's payback of $688.9 billion on the $620.3 Billion outflow Obama's deficit would be even worse!
https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/
tarppaidback.png

YET in spite of these gigantic cataclysmic events Bush had:
YET in SPITE of:
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts... In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property..
IN SPITE of that:
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later due to dot.com/9-11 losses against revenue.
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=20

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historical

I am WAITING for someone to refute these EVENTS! Tell me NONE of these EVENTS had ANY affect on the economy or people's lives and on America! Please tell me!
 
The Gorelick memo happened but it did not create a barrier between intelligence agencies.
 
The Gorelick memo happened but it did not create a barrier between intelligence agencies.

Where is your source? Because here is my link and source. Until you show me proof to the contrary you are just simply stating your opinion!

But the FBI was operating under the constraints of the 1995 policy cited by Freeh.

Ashcroft said he had declassified the memo that laid out the policy so the commission could review it, noting that its author was a member of the panel, a reference to Jamie Gorelick, who was deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration.

The memo detailed instructions that were designed to “more clearly separate the counterintelligence investigation from the more limited, but continued, criminal investigations” to allay concerns that intelligence information could be used in criminal prosecutions, according to a copy released late Tuesday afternoon by the Justice Department.
Ashcroft blames Clinton-era FBI, CIA
 
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So out of the thousands of forum members the ONLY ONLY refutation that the events never happened comes from a personal unsubstantiated and frankly very very dumb comment!

Until someone comes up with links to prove that under GWB these events occurred and that they had a direct and negative effect on the economy, any time I read idiots blaming Bush for the economy I simply choke those idiots up to being grossly uninformed.
These events occurred.
1) The dot.com bust happened and cost the economy, tax revenue, jobs etc. due to the $8 trillion in losses.
2) The recession that started under Clinton but officially began 3/1/01 had an effect on jobs, economy taxes.
3) 9/11 occurred which caused over $1 trillion in damages to NYC/Pentagon costing jobs, tax revenue 3,000 LIVES!
4) Worst hurricane seasons not just hurricanes but SEASONS from 2004 to 2008.. 2,215 lives, $1 trillion in damages,lost businesses tax revenue.
And in spite of the
5) 9/18/08 economic attack that caused the TARP expenditure of $620B all has been paid back PLUS a $70B profit.
If they had not done that, their estimation was that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.
It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it...
http://seekingalpha.com/article/119619-how-the-world-almost-came-to-an-end-on-september-18-2008
AGAIN any care to dispute the above events NEVER happened???
 
The Gorelick memo happened but it did not create a barrier between intelligence agencies.

Where is your source? Because here is my link and source. Until you show me proof to the contrary you are just simply stating your opinion!

But the FBI was operating under the constraints of the 1995 policy cited by Freeh.

Ashcroft said he had declassified the memo that laid out the policy so the commission could review it, noting that its author was a member of the panel, a reference to Jamie Gorelick, who was deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration.

The memo detailed instructions that were designed to “more clearly separate the counterintelligence investigation from the more limited, but continued, criminal investigations” to allay concerns that intelligence information could be used in criminal prosecutions, according to a copy released late Tuesday afternoon by the Justice Department.
Ashcroft blames Clinton-era FBI, CIA
My source is the Jamie Gorelick memo.

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/ag/legacy/2004/04/14/1995_gorelick_memo.pdf
 
So out of the thousands of forum members the ONLY ONLY refutation that the events never happened comes from a personal unsubstantiated and frankly very very dumb comment!

Until someone comes up with links to prove that under GWB these events occurred and that they had a direct and negative effect on the economy, any time I read idiots blaming Bush for the economy I simply choke those idiots up to being grossly uninformed.
These events occurred.
1) The dot.com bust happened and cost the economy, tax revenue, jobs etc. due to the $8 trillion in losses.
2) The recession that started under Clinton but officially began 3/1/01 had an effect on jobs, economy taxes.
3) 9/11 occurred which caused over $1 trillion in damages to NYC/Pentagon costing jobs, tax revenue 3,000 LIVES!
4) Worst hurricane seasons not just hurricanes but SEASONS from 2004 to 2008.. 2,215 lives, $1 trillion in damages,lost businesses tax revenue.
And in spite of the
5) 9/18/08 economic attack that caused the TARP expenditure of $620B all has been paid back PLUS a $70B profit.
If they had not done that, their estimation was that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.
It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it...
http://seekingalpha.com/article/119619-how-the-world-almost-came-to-an-end-on-september-18-2008
AGAIN any care to dispute the above events NEVER happened???

To overcome the slow economy Bush pimped housing, which subsequently crashed. That is on him.

He wasted a fortune on Iraq and Afghanistan.

Worst President EVER.
 
So out of the thousands of forum members the ONLY ONLY refutation that the events never happened comes from a personal unsubstantiated and frankly very very dumb comment!

Until someone comes up with links to prove that under GWB these events occurred and that they had a direct and negative effect on the economy, any time I read idiots blaming Bush for the economy I simply choke those idiots up to being grossly uninformed.
These events occurred.
1) The dot.com bust happened and cost the economy, tax revenue, jobs etc. due to the $8 trillion in losses.
2) The recession that started under Clinton but officially began 3/1/01 had an effect on jobs, economy taxes.
3) 9/11 occurred which caused over $1 trillion in damages to NYC/Pentagon costing jobs, tax revenue 3,000 LIVES!
4) Worst hurricane seasons not just hurricanes but SEASONS from 2004 to 2008.. 2,215 lives, $1 trillion in damages,lost businesses tax revenue.
And in spite of the
5) 9/18/08 economic attack that caused the TARP expenditure of $620B all has been paid back PLUS a $70B profit.
If they had not done that, their estimation was that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.
It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it...
http://seekingalpha.com/article/119619-how-the-world-almost-came-to-an-end-on-september-18-2008
AGAIN any care to dispute the above events NEVER happened???

To overcome the slow economy Bush pimped housing, which subsequently crashed. That is on him.

He wasted a fortune on Iraq and Afghanistan.

Worst President EVER.
That would be Carter, soon to be replaced by Obama...
 
So out of the thousands of forum members the ONLY ONLY refutation that the events never happened comes from a personal unsubstantiated and frankly very very dumb comment!

Until someone comes up with links to prove that under GWB these events occurred and that they had a direct and negative effect on the economy, any time I read idiots blaming Bush for the economy I simply choke those idiots up to being grossly uninformed.
These events occurred.
1) The dot.com bust happened and cost the economy, tax revenue, jobs etc. due to the $8 trillion in losses.
2) The recession that started under Clinton but officially began 3/1/01 had an effect on jobs, economy taxes.
3) 9/11 occurred which caused over $1 trillion in damages to NYC/Pentagon costing jobs, tax revenue 3,000 LIVES!
4) Worst hurricane seasons not just hurricanes but SEASONS from 2004 to 2008.. 2,215 lives, $1 trillion in damages,lost businesses tax revenue.
And in spite of the
5) 9/18/08 economic attack that caused the TARP expenditure of $620B all has been paid back PLUS a $70B profit.
If they had not done that, their estimation was that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.
It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it...
http://seekingalpha.com/article/119619-how-the-world-almost-came-to-an-end-on-september-18-2008
AGAIN any care to dispute the above events NEVER happened???

To overcome the slow economy Bush pimped housing, which subsequently crashed. That is on him.

He wasted a fortune on Iraq and Afghanistan.

Worst President EVER.
That would be Carter, soon to be replaced by Obama...
If not for Bush.
 
So out of the thousands of forum members the ONLY ONLY refutation that the events never happened comes from a personal unsubstantiated and frankly very very dumb comment!

Until someone comes up with links to prove that under GWB these events occurred and that they had a direct and negative effect on the economy, any time I read idiots blaming Bush for the economy I simply choke those idiots up to being grossly uninformed.
These events occurred.
1) The dot.com bust happened and cost the economy, tax revenue, jobs etc. due to the $8 trillion in losses.
2) The recession that started under Clinton but officially began 3/1/01 had an effect on jobs, economy taxes.
3) 9/11 occurred which caused over $1 trillion in damages to NYC/Pentagon costing jobs, tax revenue 3,000 LIVES!
4) Worst hurricane seasons not just hurricanes but SEASONS from 2004 to 2008.. 2,215 lives, $1 trillion in damages,lost businesses tax revenue.
And in spite of the
5) 9/18/08 economic attack that caused the TARP expenditure of $620B all has been paid back PLUS a $70B profit.
If they had not done that, their estimation was that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.
It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it...
http://seekingalpha.com/article/119619-how-the-world-almost-came-to-an-end-on-september-18-2008
AGAIN any care to dispute the above events NEVER happened???

To overcome the slow economy Bush pimped housing, which subsequently crashed. That is on him.

He wasted a fortune on Iraq and Afghanistan.

Worst President EVER.


Proof WHERE IS YOUR PROOF!!!!

I've documented all my statements yet idiots like you come up with stupid personal observations!
HEY DUMMY!!! Why did Bush have to over come a "slow economy"??? GEEZ do you think the above EVENTS had any effect???
DUH!!!
Also you idiot... "pimped housing"????
You are so f...king dumb.
So let's figure this out... GWB 2001 after 9/11 says "hey we stimulate economy by giving loans to people that won't pay them back??"
IDIOT... YOU KNOW that the failure to heed GWB warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/12/20081221-2.html

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/sam-dealey/2008/09/10/barney-franks-fannie-and-freddie-muddle

Idiot you were saying about "pimping"????
 
Sorry folks but those are the FACTS. Bad loans made to poor loan risks
In a recent meeting with the Council on Foreign Relations, Barney Frank–the chair of the House Financial Services Committee and a longtime supporter of Fannie and Freddie–admitted that it had been a mistake to force homeownership on people who could not afford it.
Renting, he said, would have been preferable. Now he tells us.

Long-term pressure from Frank and his colleagues to expand home ownership connects government housing policies to both the housing bubble and the poor quality of the mortgages on which it is based.
In 1992, Congress gave a new affordable housing “mission” to Fannie and Freddie, and authorized the Department of Housing and Urban Development to define its scope through regulations.

Shortly thereafter, Fannie Mae, under Chairman Jim Johnson, made its first “trillion-dollar commitment” to increase financing for affordable housing. What this meant for the quality of the mortgages that Fannie–and later Freddie–would buy has not become clear until now.

On a parallel track was the Community Reinvestment Act. New CRA regulations in 1995 required banks to demonstrate that they were making mortgage loans to underserved communities, which inevitably included borrowers whose credit standing did not qualify them for a conventional mortgage loan.
A Government-Mandated Housing Bubble

AGAIN who did the pimping here???
 
So out of the thousands of forum members the ONLY ONLY refutation that the events never happened comes from a personal unsubstantiated and frankly very very dumb comment!

Until someone comes up with links to prove that under GWB these events occurred and that they had a direct and negative effect on the economy, any time I read idiots blaming Bush for the economy I simply choke those idiots up to being grossly uninformed.
These events occurred.
1) The dot.com bust happened and cost the economy, tax revenue, jobs etc. due to the $8 trillion in losses.
2) The recession that started under Clinton but officially began 3/1/01 had an effect on jobs, economy taxes.
3) 9/11 occurred which caused over $1 trillion in damages to NYC/Pentagon costing jobs, tax revenue 3,000 LIVES!
4) Worst hurricane seasons not just hurricanes but SEASONS from 2004 to 2008.. 2,215 lives, $1 trillion in damages,lost businesses tax revenue.
And in spite of the
5) 9/18/08 economic attack that caused the TARP expenditure of $620B all has been paid back PLUS a $70B profit.
If they had not done that, their estimation was that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.
It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it...
http://seekingalpha.com/article/119619-how-the-world-almost-came-to-an-end-on-september-18-2008
AGAIN any care to dispute the above events NEVER happened???

To overcome the slow economy Bush pimped housing, which subsequently crashed. That is on him.

He wasted a fortune on Iraq and Afghanistan.

Worst President EVER.


Proof WHERE IS YOUR PROOF!!!!

I've documented all my statements yet idiots like you come up with stupid personal observations!
HEY DUMMY!!! Why did Bush have to over come a "slow economy"??? GEEZ do you think the above EVENTS had any effect???
DUH!!!
Also you idiot... "pimped housing"????
You are so f...king dumb.
So let's figure this out... GWB 2001 after 9/11 says "hey we stimulate economy by giving loans to people that won't pay them back??"
IDIOT... YOU KNOW that the failure to heed GWB warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/12/20081221-2.html

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/sam-dealey/2008/09/10/barney-franks-fannie-and-freddie-muddle

Idiot you were saying about "pimping"????
Yes, pimping.

Record of Achievement - Expanding Home Ownership

  • The President set a goal to increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million families by the end of the decade. Through his homeownership challenge, the President called on the private sector to help in this effort. More than two dozen companies and organizations have made commitments to increase minority homeownership - including pledges to provide more than $1.1 trillion in mortgage purchases for minority homebuyers this decade.
 
So once again... HISTORY is telling us the truth what idiots like most of you that have feebly attempted to refute!
Come on... give me FACTS and figures with links and proof that GWB as you meme-mouthing idiots the worst president!
 
So once again... HISTORY is telling us the truth what idiots like most of you that have feebly attempted to refute!
Come on... give me FACTS and figures with links and proof that GWB as you meme-mouthing idiots the worst president!
I have provided credible links to the truth. But it doesn't appear as though you are capable of processing the truth due to emotion.
 
So out of the thousands of forum members the ONLY ONLY refutation that the events never happened comes from a personal unsubstantiated and frankly very very dumb comment!

Until someone comes up with links to prove that under GWB these events occurred and that they had a direct and negative effect on the economy, any time I read idiots blaming Bush for the economy I simply choke those idiots up to being grossly uninformed.
These events occurred.
1) The dot.com bust happened and cost the economy, tax revenue, jobs etc. due to the $8 trillion in losses.
2) The recession that started under Clinton but officially began 3/1/01 had an effect on jobs, economy taxes.
3) 9/11 occurred which caused over $1 trillion in damages to NYC/Pentagon costing jobs, tax revenue 3,000 LIVES!
4) Worst hurricane seasons not just hurricanes but SEASONS from 2004 to 2008.. 2,215 lives, $1 trillion in damages,lost businesses tax revenue.
And in spite of the
5) 9/18/08 economic attack that caused the TARP expenditure of $620B all has been paid back PLUS a $70B profit.
If they had not done that, their estimation was that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.
It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it...
http://seekingalpha.com/article/119619-how-the-world-almost-came-to-an-end-on-september-18-2008
AGAIN any care to dispute the above events NEVER happened???

To overcome the slow economy Bush pimped housing, which subsequently crashed. That is on him.

He wasted a fortune on Iraq and Afghanistan.

Worst President EVER.


Proof WHERE IS YOUR PROOF!!!!

I've documented all my statements yet idiots like you come up with stupid personal observations!
HEY DUMMY!!! Why did Bush have to over come a "slow economy"??? GEEZ do you think the above EVENTS had any effect???
DUH!!!
Also you idiot... "pimped housing"????
You are so f...king dumb.
So let's figure this out... GWB 2001 after 9/11 says "hey we stimulate economy by giving loans to people that won't pay them back??"
IDIOT... YOU KNOW that the failure to heed GWB warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/12/20081221-2.html

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/sam-dealey/2008/09/10/barney-franks-fannie-and-freddie-muddle

Idiot you were saying about "pimping"????
Yes, pimping.

Record of Achievement - Expanding Home Ownership

  • The President set a goal to increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million families by the end of the decade. Through his homeownership challenge, the President called on the private sector to help in this effort. More than two dozen companies and organizations have made commitments to increase minority homeownership - including pledges to provide more than $1.1 trillion in mortgage purchases for minority homebuyers this decade.


FACTS about GWB's efforts to provide more minority home ownership or "pimping" as you called it! Racist!

  • Foreclosure rates in the HOME/ADDI programs were generally lower than in the FHA loan program.
  • Foreclosure rates for FHA-insured loans with HOME/ADDI assistance were 40 percent lower than FHA-insured loans with seller-funded downpayment assistance.
  • Among HOME/ADDI-assisted homebuyers, those with FHA-insured loans had a higher probability of foreclosure
- See more at: 9/8/2009 - Study Shows Federal Downpayment Assistance Programs Help Families Sustain Homeownership | Abt Associates
 
umm...you did this thread already dude


only about 150 times, too.

:cuckoo:
 
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.
Riddle me this!

Given Bush had both houses of Congress under Republican control during the entire 108th and 109th Congress, a total of four years between Jan 2003 and Dec 2006, why couldn't he get legislation passed to make the reforms needed in the GSE's? The wind was totally in his favor!

ANSWER: The Republican led House and Senate rebuffed the notion because they wanted their political contribution stream to remain flowing full and were helped by the Democratic minority leadership to retain their own share of contribution largess! For background glance over this documentation;
Setting the Record Straight: Six Years of Unheeded Warnings for GSE Reform
 
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.
Riddle me this!

Given Bush had both houses of Congress under Republican control during the entire 108th and 109th Congress, a total of four years between Jan 2003 and Dec 2006, why couldn't he get legislation passed to make the reforms needed in the GSE's? The wind was totally in his favor!

ANSWER: The Republican led House and Senate rebuffed the notion because they wanted their political contribution stream to remain flowing full and were helped by the Democratic minority leadership to retain their own share of contribution largess! For background glance over this documentation;
Setting the Record Straight: Six Years of Unheeded Warnings for GSE Reform
I would add that the GSEs played only a small role in the housing debacle as the vast majority of the subprime loans were in the private sector.
 
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.
Riddle me this!

Given Bush had both houses of Congress under Republican control during the entire 108th and 109th Congress, a total of four years between Jan 2003 and Dec 2006, why couldn't he get legislation passed to make the reforms needed in the GSE's? The wind was totally in his favor!

ANSWER: The Republican led House and Senate rebuffed the notion because they wanted their political contribution stream to remain flowing full and were helped by the Democratic minority leadership to retain their own share of contribution largess! For background glance over this documentation;
Setting the Record Straight: Six Years of Unheeded Warnings for GSE Reform
So it wasn't GWB fault! Which is it???
 

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