Wisconsin Official Instructs Staff Not To Mention Free IDs For Voting

[Oddball]

I'm giving you an example of how bureaucrats aren't required to tell you about each and every possible avenue of action that is open to you.

If you can't be bothered to know your rights, then you get -or don't get in this case- what you deserve.

Buncha whiners.

It's interesting that the same people who know of every fuckin' dime coming to them through social services, would be unaware of a free id. bullshit, just something else for the babies in Wisconsin, and their liberal/socialist brethren to cry about because they got their asses handed to them.

So, your argument is that people don't deserve to vote if they don't know their rights. How patriotic of you. Too bad for you though, the Voting Rights Act disagrees with you.

Some people will not be aware of the free ID. It's not advertised. DMV employees are not allowed to mention the free ID unless they're asked. You may think that every person in WI should be able to figure it out on their own, but that's simply not the case. Inevitably, some people will walk away thinking that they can't legally vote. All because they didn't ask and the DMV is not allowed to tell them unless they ask.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

If voting is such a big deal to you, then you shouldn't need to have your hand held every step of the way by the bureaucracy to get a ballot in front of your face.

 

[Avorysuds]

Good find jose


the republican party just keep outing itself as the anti democracy party

People must like it because the Democrat party is shrinking.

 

[J.E.D]

It's interesting that the same people who know of every fuckin' dime coming to them through social services, would be unaware of a free id. bullshit, just something else for the babies in Wisconsin, and their liberal/socialist brethren to cry about because they got their asses handed to them.

So, your argument is that people don't deserve to vote if they don't know their rights. How patriotic of you. Too bad for you though, the Voting Rights Act disagrees with you.

Some people will not be aware of the free ID. It's not advertised. DMV employees are not allowed to mention the free ID unless they're asked. You may think that every person in WI should be able to figure it out on their own, but that's simply not the case. Inevitably, some people will walk away thinking that they can't legally vote. All because they didn't ask and the DMV is not allowed to tell them unless they ask.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

If voting is such a big deal to you, then you shouldn't need to have your hand held every step of the way by the bureaucracy to get a ballot in front of your face.

Just because a voter is uninformed, it doesn't meant that they don't deserve to vote. That's an asinine and un-American thing to say.

 

[Oddball]

Stupid people aren't my problem.

 

[J.E.D]

Good find jose


the republican party just keep outing itself as the anti democracy party

People must like it because the Democrat party is shrinking.

What you're saying essentially is that the Democratic party supports democracy, and that because the Democratic party's numbers are shrinking (according to you), that proves that people support the Republican party, which is against democracy. Thanks. That's very informative.

 

[Oddball]

What he's saying is that the Democrat Party is populated with and supports stupid people....Like that was any news.

 

[J.E.D]

Stupid people aren't my problem.

They may not be your problem, but they still have the right to vote without anything hindering their ability to vote. You may not like it, but that's how we do things here in the USA. Voting is a founding principle of this nation.

 

[Conservative]

Stupid people aren't my problem.

They may not be your problem, but they still have the right to vote without anything hindering their ability to vote. You may not like it, but that's how we do things here in the USA. Voting is a founding principle of this nation.

requiring an ID to vote does not hinder the vote. dip-shit. numerous studies and reports have been posted on this site which prove this.

 

[Oddball]

Stupidity on their part does not constitute hindrance on my part.

If they can't be bothered to know their rights and assert them, then they can live with the fruits of their ignorance.

 

[Conservative]

If they can't be bothered to know their rights and assert them, then they can live with the fruits of their ignorance and stupidity.

all they have to do to know they are allowed a free id... is read the fucking signs.

Workers at the DMV should not have to do that for them.

 

[Immanuel]

Tea Party - SourceWatch

Now there is an unbiased source for you... not!

Immie

 

[J.E.D]

What he's saying is that the Democrat Party is populated with and supports stupid people....Like that was any news.

No, that's not what he said. He agreed that the Republican party is anti-democratic. He just doesn't realize it. And niether do you apparently. And what you've proven over and over again is that you are incapable of having a reasonable discussion. You're a one-trick troll with nothing to offer other than your little one-liners and unoriginal insults.

 

[Immanuel]

They dont want Americans to vote, it keeps their party from power

Recorded for evidence of her stupidity.

Yes, Republicans don't want Americans to vote because it keeps Republicans from power.



Immie

 

[J.E.D]

Stupidity on their part does not constitute hindrance on my part.

If they can't be bothered to know their rights and assert them, then they can live with the fruits of their ignorance.

Fortunately for us, whether or not people get voter IDs is not up to you. It's up to state officials.

 

[Conservative]

took me all of 7 seconds to find this online...

Obtaining an ID card - Wisconsin Department of Transportation
Free Wisconsin ID cards for voting

A free ID card is available under Wisconsin law to anyone who:

will be at least 18 years of age on the date of the next election and;
requests an ID card for the purpose of voting.

A free ID card is NOT available under the following circumstances:

If you currently have a valid, unexpired driver license (DL), you are not eligible under Wisconsin law to obtain an ID.
If you will not be at least 18 years of age on the date of the next election.
If you already have a Wisconsin ID card that is not eligible for renewal (you may renew your ID card up to one year prior to its expiration date).
If you are not eligible to vote in Wisconsin.

 

[Care4all]

If they can't be bothered to know their rights and assert them, then they can live with the fruits of their ignorance and stupidity.

all they have to do to know they are allowed a free id... is read the fucking signs.

Workers at the DMV should not have to do that for them.

i agree...if they are in the DMV and signs are posted in the lobby, to tell them such, then the DMV person should not have to tell them.

I still think those that are registered already to vote, who do not have gvt id's to go with their voter's registration card, should be notified....i am not there in this state, but i do think that our citizens should be well informed on this matter.....and maybe they have been already????

 

[Immanuel]

if anyone is coming in for a voter id, because they do not have a government id yet are citizens, then it should be paid for by the government, so that there is not a FEE to vote(a poll tax).....which is against the law.

A free ID is available, upon request. Which is as it should be.

has the law been publicized saying such and telling our citizens who do not have a government id, that they can go and get one, for free, if need be, if they ask?

As long as everyone is fully AWARE that they can get a gvt approved voter's id for free then i have no problems with it.

The Public should be fully informed of the law, and it should not be kept hidden from them.....they ARE CITIZENS for christ sake, and should not be put through hurdles to vote, in this day and age.

besides, I thought this was to stop ILLEGALS from voting, but it sure seems like it is to stop those citizens, without id....and that is simply wrong, unjust.

According to another article posted by TDM I think yesterday. An official of the DMV stated that there were temporary signs posted stating that free ID's were available. Now, whether or not that is true or how visible those signs are, I don't know.

I will see if I can find a link to the article from yesterday shortly.

Immie

PS welcome back, I for one am glad to see you hanging around here again.

 

[rdean]

Voting is supposed to be free.

 

[Immanuel]

Here's the link I found easily. This one was supplied by Lakhota not TDM.

Wisconsin Official Instructs Staff Not To Mention Free IDs For Voting

Krieser argued that there are temporary signs posted at all of the Department of Motor Vehicle stations in the state to inform people they must check the box to request a free ID. He said there are plans to place permanent signs, but that he had no timeline for it.

The Democratic Party of Wisconsin has already pounced on the controversy, sending out an email to supporters questioning whether they should take Krieser at his word that there are actually signs on display.

Immie

 

[yidnar]

OH NO!!! you mean people have to actually do something to get a free voter id!! ........like open their mouths and ask!!! i'll bet if they were giving away money their would be no outcry from the left if all you had to do was ask!!.........FACE IT LIBBS !! REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW ID BEFORE THEY VOTE!!..........and don't try to tell me that the people in Wisconsin don't know about it because people that do not live their obviously do!! .............Hey I'VE GOT AN IDEA !! why don't the dems in Wisconsin put adds out informing the public about the complicated procedure involved in getting a voter ID !!! ..............WAIT A MINUTE I WILL HELP !!..........ATTENTION !!!.......... IF YOU LIVE IN WISCONSIN AND YOU WANT A FREE ID GO TO THE LOCAL DMV NEAREST YOU AND ASK FOR ONE!!!!