Why we have gun crime and gun murder, the Chicago edition...again...

2aguy

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19 year old criminal with an illegal gun committing armed robbery released from custody....this is why we have gun crime and gun murder in democrat party controlled cities......we do not have gun crime and gun murder because John and Jane citizen own and carry guns to protect themselves from the criminals the democrats keep letting out of jail and prison...

Woman facing robbery, gun charges after Uptown hold-up; Cops eye connection with second case

Prosecutors charged 19-year-old Winter Smith with felony armed robbery with a firearm, felony unlawful possession of a firearm, and misdemeanor counts of carrying a weapon without a Firearm Owner’s ID (FOID) card and possessing ammunition without a FOID.

The terms of Smith’s bail were not immediately available on Monday evening. According to online records, she has been released from custody.

Soooo...unlike democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians who keep letting violent criminals like this out of prison....and then use their crimes to demand that normal people give up their guns........my plan would stop 95% of gun crime in this country.,....

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..
 
19 year old criminal with an illegal gun committing armed robbery released from custody....this is why we have gun crime and gun murder in democrat party controlled cities......we do not have gun crime and gun murder because John and Jane citizen own and carry guns to protect themselves from the criminals the democrats keep letting out of jail and prison...

Except when they have an argument over the bills...

Elderly man shoots wife to death before killing self in murder-suicide pact due to 'unaffordable' medical bills
 
19 year old criminal with an illegal gun committing armed robbery released from custody....this is why we have gun crime and gun murder in democrat party controlled cities......we do not have gun crime and gun murder because John and Jane citizen own and carry guns to protect themselves from the criminals the democrats keep letting out of jail and prison...

Except when they have an argument over the bills...

Elderly man shoots wife to death before killing self in murder-suicide pact due to 'unaffordable' medical bills

Again......you must have failed math.......90% is not 100%....

So, since you failed to read the link the first two times...

The Criminology of Firearms


In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and some empirical research of its own about guns. The Academy could not identify any gun restriction that had reduced violent crime, suicide or gun accidents.

Why don't gun bans work? Because they rely on voluntary compliance by gun-using criminals. Prohibitionists never see this absurdity because they deceive themselves into thinking that, as Katherine Christoffel has said: "[M]ost shootings are not committed by felons or mentally ill people, but are acts of passion that are committed using a handgun that is owned for home protection."

Christoffel, et al., are utterly wrong. The whole corpus of criminological research dating back to the 1890'sshows murderers "almost uniformly have a long history of involvement in criminal behavior," and that "[v]irtually all" murderers and other gun criminals have prior felony records — generally long ones.

While only 15 percent of Americans have criminal records, roughly 90 percent of adult murderers have prior adult records — exclusive of their often extensive juvenile records — with crime careers of six or more adult years including four major felonies. Gerald D. Robin, writing for the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences,notes that, unlike ordinary gun owners, "the average murderer turns out to be no less hardened a criminal than the average robber or burglar."
 
Again......you must have failed math.......90% is not 100%....

So, since you failed to read the link the first two times...

Guy, I don't read any of your NRA Spooge.

We've established this.

Most gun deaths are people being shot with guns already in their homes, not random street crime. Suicides, domestic violence and acquaintance violence. All happening because a gun was in arm's reach when something went wrong.

There is no good reason for untrained civilians to own guns.
 

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