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CDZ Why Is America Worse Than Other Developed Countries At The Basic Function Of Keeping Its Citizens Alive?

Mr. Friscus

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America has a death problem.

No, I’m not just talking about the past year and a half, during which COVID-19 deaths per capita in the United States outpaced those in similarly rich countries, such as Canada, Japan, and France. And I’m not just talking about the past decade, during which drug overdoses skyrocketed in the U.S., creating a social epidemic of what are often called “deaths of despair.”

I’m talking about the past 30 years. Before the 1990s, average life expectancy in the U.S. was not much different than it was in Germany, the United Kingdom, or France. But since the 1990s, American life spans started falling significantly behind those in similarly wealthy European countries.


One very obvious example was left off the list.
It sounds like you found a stat that exists but tells us nothing, because there are so many factors that contribute to it.
 

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My honest guess is because you guys underestimate the idea of "the common good".

In Europe, the left believes individuals shouldn't screw the majority. But even conservatives believe that "with freedom, there comes responsibility", which means when you get rich, you have a responsibility towards the common good.

America just has an ideology of denouncing people believing such a thing as the common good even exists as "socialists". Instead, you celebrate a culture of individuals who insist on their freedom, without ever taking responsibility for anything but themselves. Hence the shape of the gun debate, the health care debate, yadda yadda.

America is a third world country when it comes to community.
I think you've characterized the most radical extreme Americans and imprinted your bias on the entire country.

America relies on individual freedom and a moral, giving populace. That's why it was founded in reference to a higher power, or god. And America on the whole is a very moral, giving populace.. far more than European countries.

The gun debate? The right is incredibly necessary to thwart a sweeping gov't takeover of the populace. Go look at the history of European countries, and you'll see many examples.

The health care debate? America has the best health care system in the world by quality, and is only bogged down by globalist bloated HC additions. Nowhere is health care a "right", and the idea that hospitals turn people away because they don't get free health care is a lie.

Any more hack talking points?
 

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Costa Rica? We have 5 times more illegal immigrants than the entire population of that country.
 

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America has a death problem.

No, I’m not just talking about the past year and a half, during which COVID-19 deaths per capita in the United States outpaced those in similarly rich countries, such as Canada, Japan, and France. And I’m not just talking about the past decade, during which drug overdoses skyrocketed in the U.S., creating a social epidemic of what are often called “deaths of despair.”

I’m talking about the past 30 years. Before the 1990s, average life expectancy in the U.S. was not much different than it was in Germany, the United Kingdom, or France. But since the 1990s, American life spans started falling significantly behind those in similarly wealthy European countries.


One very obvious example was left off the list.
..it's not the government's job to keep you alive..and not it's fault if you die
 

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It sounds like you found a stat that exists but tells us nothing, because there are so many factors that contribute to it.
1. we have a much larger population [ incomparable to other countries ]
2. as Amart pointed out-MUCHO immigration/etc
3. we have MUCHO obesity [ obesity causes MANY ''death'' problems ]
 

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America has a death problem.

No, I’m not just talking about the past year and a half, during which COVID-19 deaths per capita in the United States outpaced those in similarly rich countries, such as Canada, Japan, and France. And I’m not just talking about the past decade, during which drug overdoses skyrocketed in the U.S., creating a social epidemic of what are often called “deaths of despair.”

I’m talking about the past 30 years. Before the 1990s, average life expectancy in the U.S. was not much different than it was in Germany, the United Kingdom, or France. But since the 1990s, American life spans started falling significantly behind those in similarly wealthy European countries.


One very obvious example was left off the list.


A Japanese man has an average life expectancy of 84 years, the best in the world.

An American man has an average life expectancy of 79 years.

That's just 5 years difference.
 

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The idiotic dumb moronic attitude of "hey I'm an American nobody tells me what to eat and tells me to exercise" is frankly the dumbest attitude ever. That so called "macho" attitude wreaks of imbecility.
 

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Life expectancy is directly proportionate to ones chosen lifestyle not medical care. Obesity, lack of exercise, diet, alcohol, tobacco, and drug use are all major contributing factors. When one gets sick their recovery is dictated by the above factors. Community, really? You have got to be kidding me. Ownership for ones life choices is a responsibility mature individuals undertake on their own.
 

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America has a death problem.

No, I’m not just talking about the past year and a half, during which COVID-19 deaths per capita in the United States outpaced those in similarly rich countries, such as Canada, Japan, and France. And I’m not just talking about the past decade, during which drug overdoses skyrocketed in the U.S., creating a social epidemic of what are often called “deaths of despair.”

I’m talking about the past 30 years. Before the 1990s, average life expectancy in the U.S. was not much different than it was in Germany, the United Kingdom, or France. But since the 1990s, American life spans started falling significantly behind those in similarly wealthy European countries.


One very obvious example was left off the list.
Since when is it a basic function of government to keep people alive?
 

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The idiotic dumb moronic attitude of "hey I'm an American nobody tells me what to eat and tells me to exercise" is frankly the dumbest attitude ever. That so called "macho" attitude wreaks of imbecility.
It is not imbecilic at all it is smarter than the opposite view.
 

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America has a death problem.

No, I’m not just talking about the past year and a half, during which COVID-19 deaths per capita in the United States outpaced those in similarly rich countries, such as Canada, Japan, and France. And I’m not just talking about the past decade, during which drug overdoses skyrocketed in the U.S., creating a social epidemic of what are often called “deaths of despair.”

I’m talking about the past 30 years. Before the 1990s, average life expectancy in the U.S. was not much different than it was in Germany, the United Kingdom, or France. But since the 1990s, American life spans started falling significantly behind those in similarly wealthy European countries.


One very obvious example was left off the list.



Democrats
 

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Since Covid started the US has lost 1 1/2 years off of it's life expectancy. Before that America's medical outcome had been reduced compared to other countries, partially because of lack of access to good quality health care.
America's poor had stopped being proactive with sickness and injuries.
 

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The idiotic dumb moronic attitude of "hey I'm an American nobody tells me what to eat and tells me to exercise" is frankly the dumbest attitude ever. That so called "macho" attitude wreaks of imbecility.
It's THEIR problem, not yours

And, TBH I've never heard that from anyone
 

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The health care debate? America has the best health care system in the world by quality, ................
No, not by quality.
'Quality' is an overall measure of HC and in that respect America ranks as the worst of all the modern developed countries.
There's no need to supply the same link again to prove that.

America has the potential to provide the world's best quality, and that makes the topic so actively pursued.
 

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So the government gets to decide what you can and cannot eat?
Not exactly, no, but additives like high fructose corn syrup is banned, so when you buy a can of Coke in the EU it has regular cane sugar in it as opposed to high fructose corn syrup which is essentially sugar on steroids.
 

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Not exactly, no, but additives like high fructose corn syrup is banned, so when you buy a can of Coke in the EU it has regular cane sugar in it as opposed to high fructose corn syrup which is essentially sugar on steroids.
That's a price of 'freedom' in America.
But all of America's HC problems and life expectancy can be related to 'freedom'.
 

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A major reason our country has a lower life expectancy than the countries you enumerated is that they are: "homogeneous nations". Those are nations made up of nearly 100% one race. Different races and nationalities have different life expectancies regardless of the health care they do or do not receive.

The life expectancy in Norway at birth is 81.8 years. Until Muslim refugees started moving into the country, they are nearly 100% white Norwegians.

In Minnesota, a very large percentage of their population are Scandinavians. They also eat many of the foods from the Old Country. Their life expectancy is 81.05.

There are other reasons as well. We have far more vehicular fatalities than other countries.
 

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A major reason our country has a lower life expectancy than the countries you enumerated is that they are: "homogeneous nations". Those are nations made up of nearly 100% one race. Different races and nationalities have different life expectancies regardless of the health care they do or do not receive.

The life expectancy in Norway at birth is 81.8 years. Until Muslim refugees started moving into the country, they are nearly 100% white Norwegians.

In Minnesota, a very large percentage of their population are Scandinavians. They also eat many of the foods from the Old Country. Their life expectancy is 81.05.

There are other reasons as well. We have far more vehicular fatalities than other countries.
Minorities and their diets and culture bring our numbers down
 

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