Why Does Israel Remain Alive against the World's Wishes?

ajwps

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Fifty-six years ago the Jews decided to establish a state. America, which initially supported the idea, sensed the Arab opposition and retracted its support. The entire world stood aside and left the tiny Jewish country to its fate. They all waited to see how seven Arab armies would continue from the point where Rommel was halted in El Alamein, and add to the six million Jews murdered in Europe another six hundred thousand Jews in Israel. An embargo was imposed on the sale of arms to the new Jewish State, which attempted to defend itself. Weapons purchased by Jews in the US (from Second World War surplus stocks) were confiscated in the port of New Jersey before they could be sent to Israel.

There had never before been such a desperate, dangerous and hopeless attempt to establish a state. Only a few of the 600 Jews taken prisoner by the Arabs in the War of Independence remained alive. The Arabs made no effort to hide their intentions regarding the fate of the Jews during that war (or during the wars that followed it). The Jews were sentenced to death with terrible cruelty. The leader of the Arabs in Israel, Haj Amin El-Husseini (the same family as the late Faisal Husseini) received training in German concentration camps for the construction of gas chambers. An area had already been allocated for the death camps to be constructed in Israel, in a special place in the Dotan Valley, not far from a town called Karnei Shomron.

Against all the odds, the State of Israel arose and became a well-established and strong country in the region.

Over the last ten years, the entire world, led by Israel itself, has been attempting to establish another state between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean, an Arab state for the same Husseinis.

However, in contrast to the case of the Jews, this time, the entire world is enthusiastically supporting the idea. Not merely supporting, but raising funds for the Arabs and supplying weapons. Even the American CIA is secretly training the terrorists in special camps. They are given well-equipped military bases, international recognition, support from the media, and ports and airports are being built for them.

Never before has an ethnic group of any kind received a country on such a red carpet.

But, amazingly, the Arab state in Israel is not being established. It seems that reality in Israel has its own rules: It is directly linked to the wishes of the Creator. Whatever matches His wishes is realistic, even if the entire world is recruited in order to do the opposite. This is of course true at all times, but in our time, in Israel, the Holy Land, it is felt immediately.

Again and again, the apparently "realistic" people are banging their heads against the wall. They think that their brand of logic matches reality. For them, the country is only a piece of real estate (as Yitzchak Rabin said about the Golan Heights), a bargaining counter for negotiations. Those who do not take the Creator's wishes into account are denying reality, and the price of that denial by Israel's leaders is unbearable.

We know that there is always hope for Israel. We know that the Father in Heaven has not returned the Jews to His country for the third time in order to destroy the renewed Jewish presence in the land of the Patriarchs. The latest version of the Return to Israel is not a macabre joke of the Creator.

So why does Israel need any organized army reaction? After all, everything will turn out all right anyway.

It is possible to regard belief as something divorced from reality. Such a religious attitude characterized the Jewish people through the Exile until the appearance of Zionism, and it still characterizes important sections of it. This disconnected attitude is not a real Jewish one, and it led entire Jewish communities to destruction during the period of the Holocaust. Those Jews who believed that the Jewish people would return to their country in a miraculous way were right, but what a terrible price was paid for belief divorced from reality.

Authentic Jewish belief is not divorced from reality. On the contrary, it defines reality and obligates every moral human to act in order to realize it.

Reality is the wishes of the Creator in His world. The reality is that there is G-d, that there is a nation indicating Him by its very existence, and that there is a country chosen by G-d for His nation only, and that only in it, and from it, the chosen of the Creator can carry out their universal mission.

This is the reality, and human kind's task is to expose it and realize it.
 
I think we should cut the ambilical cord and see if they wither and die, or if by some miracle money starts growing on trees.

If that is their historical lands, why aren't they dark skined like most of the other people in the region?

Personally I'm sick of the whole conflict. I can't read a paper or watch the news without hearing about that B.S.
 
White knight said:
I think we should cut the ambilical cord and see if they wither and die, or if by some miracle money starts growing on trees.

If that is their historical lands, why aren't they dark skined like most of the other people in the region?

Personally I'm sick of the whole conflict. I can't read a paper or watch the news without hearing about that B.S.

Israel has existed for 3,316 years without the USA unbilical cord. The Jewish people and the land of Israel has neither withered or died. Is this too difficult for you to understand with your microenacephalic head?

So you are sick and tired of the whole conflict. That bull feces you don't like to read about is about to be in the middle of your face in the very NEAR FUTURE.

Get used to this little strip of Jewish land, the size of Rhode Island, being a part of your very existence.

Some say you are really a copraphagic person. Is that true?
 
NATO AIR said:
it has nukes and will use them if it feels close to being defeated

Israel and the United States have a great deal more than simply nuclear weapons.

Israel has just received a great number of MOAB type bombs courtesy of George Bush. Do you think Bush has plans for Iran's nuclear weapons program after the November 2nd election?

The Muslim terrorists and Arab countries are throughly ashamed of losing five wars against little Israel. Their shame is driving them into oblivion as they attack the United States and Israel.
 
ajwps said:
Israel and the United States have a great deal more than simply nuclear weapons.

Israel has just received a great number of MOAB type bombs courtesy of George Bush. Do you think Bush has plans for Iran's nuclear weapons program after the November 2nd election?

The Muslim terrorists and Arab countries are throughly ashamed of losing five wars against little Israel. Their shame is driving them into oblivion as they attack the United States and Israel.

Why would the US give Israel the weapons if we didn't expect Israel to use them against Iranian nuclear facilities? They are a little big for a "precision" strike on a Hammas leader don't ya think. Do you own dirty work!
 
dilloduck said:
Why would the US give Israel the weapons if we didn't expect Israel to use them against Iranian nuclear facilities? They are a little big for a "precision" strike on a Hammas leader don't ya think. Do you own dirty work!

There you go again trying to spin your own words.

Do you think Israel isn't going to do the deed from which George Bush can distance the US and himself?

Israel doesn't need MOAB bombs to destroy Hammas for these terrorist groups under the umbrella of Islam are destroying themselves faster than Israel can kill them.

No, Israel is going to do that 'dirty work' for YOU.......
 
Sir Evil said:
Wouldn't be so unusaul, they did it to Iraq!

Israel did not get permission to destroy the Iraqi nuclear facilities in the early 80s but for Iran, Israel will do what is necessary to defend themselves and people like dilloduck. Of course with the weapons the US has just sent to Israel. Coincidental isn't it.
 
William Joyce said:
Israel's alive because it's hooked up to a giant IV called "The United States of America."


That statement would be MUCH more accurate if it read:

The Palenstinian people are alive today because the USA keeps talking Israel out of destroying them.


I'd bet on Israel's Armed forces against just about ANY on the planet. Israel is being 'nice' as-is...if they were to open their full-can of whoop ass, I wonder if even the USA could stand in their way. It DOES help to be God's Chosen nation...
 
ajwps said:
Israel did not get permission to destroy the Iraqi nuclear facilities in the early 80s but for Iran, Israel will do what is necessary to defend themselves and people like dilloduck. Of course with the weapons the US has just sent to Israel. Coincidental isn't it.

What arrogance for a country that is dependent on the US for survival. The US can take care of Iran without Israels help and we should take responsibilty for it!
 
-=d=- said:
That statement would be MUCH more accurate if it read:

The Palenstinian people are alive today because the USA keeps talking Israel out of destroying them.


I'd bet on Israel's Armed forces against just about ANY on the planet. Israel is being 'nice' as-is...if they were to open their full-can of whoop ass, I wonder if even the USA could stand in their way. It DOES help to be God's Chosen nation...

Boy are you right.....

George Bush and the US State Department is asking Sharon (Israel PM) to fight their children's murderers with their hands tied behind their back.

Israel has its own share of morons who think that they can sit down with venomous cobras and work out a deal to live in peace with them. Israel has the technology and weaponry to move every single Arab out of Israel tomorrow but those people like PM Sharon and his leftist buddies bow down and lick the boots of George Bush and company.
 
ajwps said:
Boy are you right.....

George Bush and the US State Department is asking Sharon (Israel PM) to fight their children's murderers with their hands tied behind their back.

Israel has its own share of morons who think that they can sit down with venomous cobras and work out a deal to live in peace with them. Israel has the technology and weaponry to move every single Arab out of Israel tomorrow but those people like PM Sharon and his leftist buddies bow down and lick the boots of George Bush and company.


That's not exclusive of PMs and Presidents of today - Israel has been complying with US reccommendations for quite some time.
 
-=d=- said:
That's not exclusive of PMs and Presidents of today - Israel has been complying with US reccommendations for quite some time.

I both believe and hope that a strong young leader will rise in Israel. George Bush now knows that the world may not necessarily love you but they do respect the US even it goes against their financial Arab oil interests.

Israel needs to learn that lesson and apparently the hard way...
 
dilloduck said:
What arrogance for a country that is dependent on the US for survival. The US can take care of Iran without Israels help and we should take responsibilty for it!

Apparently the US is dependent on Israel for their mutual security and survival. It seems that the US is not prepared to 'take care of Iran' as many fear that it would make the US seem like the bully superpower.

You are basically correct about the US's ability to finish off the nuclear threat by group of clerics who fear being overthrown but the reality is that America is not prepared to be made into another England imperialization power over the world of Islam.
 
ajwps said:
Once you were blind and now you can see...
We all see much clearer now.

One only needs to look at this guy and you can see how drunk with pride they are with their glorious little nation of Israel.
It is because of their drunken pride that the son’s of Israel will never make peace with their Arab brothers. You both come from the same family tree, and yet you fight each other bitterly.

“A house divided against itself cannot stand” (A. Lincoln June 16, 1858)
No nation divided so bitterly will stand. If the rest of your people are as arrogant as you, soon your allies will turn against you.
It was your arrogance that has caused these new wars, if you had made peace with your brothers they would not have crashed into our towers. We would not be doing your dirty work, killing your brothers in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Yes now I can see, I see why you are hated.
The world will see your proud lust for violence and turn against you. Your dreams of glory will not be fulfilled.

I dare them to strike Iran, The Muslim world has its hands around the neck of the U.S. See how fast they cut off our oil supply and how quickly our support for Israel falls.
 
White knight said:
We all see much clearer now.

It is because of their drunken pride that the son’s of Israel will never make peace with their Arab brothers.


...true, Israel is more likely to kill every militant Muslim before they Make 'peace' with them...Militant Muslims are impossible to make peace WITH....

Israel vs. Every Major Arab Nation? Israel wins...hands down.
 
-=d=- said:
...true, Israel is more likely to kill every militant Muslim before they Make 'peace' with them...Militant Muslims are impossible to make peace WITH....

Israel vs. Every Major Arab Nation? Israel wins...hands down.
I would tend to agree, since most of Arab forces are unproffesional expat conscripts.
Why fight and get your own hands dirty, when you can pay someone to die for you.

That's why this whole soap opera keeps going on. They can't get rid of all their brothers in that region, It's a never ending cycle.
Family feuds are a bitch.
 

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