- Nov 14, 2011
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He has to inform others, ya kazzer.
It gets worse than that; Trump personally packed a stash of documents returned from Mar-a-Lago, report says. He kept hundreds more until the FBI seized them.Legal experts are tearing the filing part. It’s basically just one big joke. Long on hyperbole and short on legal merit.
However, what’s notable is that his lawyers didn’t include the claim Trump declassified those documents before taking them. Trump himself has said as recently as today he did.
Well he basically know why. He didn’t actually do it lol
Trump team files new court papers in Mar-a-Lago lawsuit that experts say are 'long on hyperbole and short on law'The former president's team recycled claims of political bias and again alluded to his possible 2024 run in their latest Mar-a-Lago filing.www.yahoo.com
Documents are not "declassified" it is the information in the document that is declassified.
For example lets say that there are 6 copies of a specific document containing specific classified information. One located in the White House, 5 located amongst various agencies which also need the document. In addition there are subordinate documents that contain (either in part of in whole some of the same classified information).
Under a normal process when the information contained in a highly classified documents is declassified (or downgraded) that impacts all copies of the document (it's information, and subordinate documents containing the same information in whole or portions of a subordinate document).
So If the FPOTUS "declassified" a document, he is really declassifying the information in that document. If the FPOTUS, while acting as POTUS, "declassified" the information without telling anyone (either directly or in writing) for that specific document, you end up with:
The result is someone could be prosecuted for improper handling of classified material for actions related to the 5 responsible agency documents, but not for improper handling of the exact same document if the source of the document was the White House. By this we are talking about the information in the document and subordinate information which sourced the document which can have even wider reaching impacts.
- One copy of the information located at the White House being "declassified", and
- Five copies of the information located at the responsible agencies still being classified as the responsible agencies will not know the information was declassified because the FPOTUS (while POTUS) just mentally declassified the information in his head.
The national security infrastructure cannot function in a reasonable way if the same information is both classified and declassified at the same time simply because the POTUS chooses not to tell anyone.
Kind of a Schrodinger's Classified document where the same information is both classified and declassified at the same time until someone askes the FPOTUS to find out if he mentally and secretly declassified it without telling anyone while still POTUS. Normal people wouldn't know just be looking at the document.
Well amateur observations that are blatant can still be made. If Trump publicly asserts that he declassified those documents but his lawyers say nothing at all about it in their legal filings, it’s safe to assume they don’t have the evidence to back it up.I'm not a legal expert so I'm not going to second guess a legal team's approach. That's the point.
Or that they're holding it for the best time to release it. That's the point, I'm not a legal expert so I don't presume to know what is the best strategy and what isn't.Well amateur observations that are blatant can still be made. If Trump publicly asserts that he declassified those documents but his lawyers say nothing at all about it in their legal filings, it’s safe to assume they don’t have the evidence to back it up.
Now is the time to say it. In court is when they prove it. I mean right now they are trying to keep him from being charged. At least raising the point is critical.Or that they're holding it for the best time to release it. That's the point, I'm not a legal expert so I don't presume to know what is the best strategy and what isn't.
It hasn't been subjected to rules of evidence in a criminal filing as of yet.Let him make that claim in court with supporting testimony under oath, sworn affidavits under oath, or via documentation that such declassification occurred document by documents (which number multiple hundreds of documents if you include the May surrender, June subpoena, and August search warrant). Providing the data, time and location when each documents was declassified.
But neither FPOTUS nor his legal team have been willing to put that before the court.