Why Americans Should Applaud the Virginia, New York Abortion Bills

[satrebil]

If you don’t like abortion, don’t get an abortion.

It’s as simple as that.
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If you don't like the slaughter of Jews, then don't kill a Jew.

It's as simple as that.

 

[Ame®icano]

Its the simple fact that leftists do not value human life, rather they are totally devoted to materialism and emotions. What ever makes them feel good about themselves no matter if it has basis in reality, they must always champion some cause and once they get what they desire, they are still not happy and must choose a new cause to become champions of, never mind waiting to see what results it produces, just keep evangelizing for whatever progressive/leftist cause happens to be the flavor of the month.

Left don't hold human life to have any inherent value. While, for example, sea turtle eggs have more rights that human fetus.

 

[Synthaholic]

Town Hall.

 

[Synthaholic]

Why OP should take a long walk off a short plank into shark-infested waters in 3...2..1..

Now.

The piece points out that we should be somewhat relieved that the dems are finally out in the open about their being the party of death, not that he approves of what they've done.

Poor Oddball. 2010 Sarah Palin called. She wants her talking points back.

 

[Synthaholic]

No one really wants to ban abortion, not really. The truth of that is in how even the most ardent anti abortion advocates have never thought about what happens next.

Maybe we are not afraid or maybe we not not lack the confidence in our ability to handle what happens next.

Did you ever think about that?

When Supreme Court justice Potter Stewart contemplated that a State could establish that an unborn fetus is a person. . . Neither did he go on to freak out about the downsides of doing.

Neither did the pro-abortion attorney (Sarah Weddington) express any of concern of her own.


Maybe that's because when "Roe" was being decided, they were already living in a world where abortions WERE banned and the sky was NOT falling.

So how long do you want send a woman to jail for having an abortion? Trump was asked this question and he had no answer.

I have no trouble answering this question because I am consistent with my views no matter how much it costs me politically among my friends.

We have many fetal HOMICIDE laws on the books today, where a person can be (and have been) charged with MURDER for killing a child in the womb, even accidentally, during the committing of a criminal act.

I have a hard time seeing why a woman who kills that same child INTENTIONALLY (figuratively speaking) should be charged with anything less.

Human life is cheap. We prove it every day in the amount of death, and the lack of outrage over it.

 

[Slyhunter]

What if the fetus is defected, with Down Syndrome or some other Genetic Freak of Nature like having the Gay gene?

 

[satrebil]

What if the fetus is defected, with Down Syndrome or some other Genetic Freak of Nature like having the Gay gene?

How does that preclude them from having the right to life?

 

[Synthaholic]

I am a big states rights guy, and I am not sure any federal court should be deciding if and at what point a fetus becomes human enough to protect it's right to life prior to birth. Beyond the cases of rape, incest, and health of the mother I mean, maybe that decision ought to rest within each state; their voters can make that call or change their position if circumstances change.

Personally, I don't like it after the 1st trimester. That's enough time IMHO to decide what to do, and once viable the fetus can be removed from the womb and given to those who would provide for him/her. Certainly I'd rather see the money spent on aborting the baby to keeping him/her alive.

I disagree with the idea that personhood is something that (constitutionally) can be decided and vary State to State.

Certainly if marriage can't, then neither can personhood.

That is inconsistent with different state laws for capital punishment.

You can’t say you want the Feds to set the rules for the beginning of life but not the end of life.

 

[Synthaholic]

Government should never, ever interfere with medical care. I read a piece the other day that was the review of the materials that some states legally require doctors to give to abortion patients. The reviews were done by medical professionals. The level of false information in these materials was shocking, and most crafted by people in state governments who seemingly had no medical background.The materials did not contain any references to the sources of the assertions made in them. So much for letting Big Government into doctors' offices.

It is the ultimate in absurdity to think that a person would carry a fetus to term and then decide on the operating table that it should be killed for no reason.

Late term abortion is always for non-viable infants that have things that cannot be detected early. You would know that if the anti-abortion people were not the worst kind of liar.

Yes, your straw man is quite tragic. He was an evil straw man!

 

[Ame®icano]

Human life is cheap. We prove it every day in the amount of death, and the lack of outrage over it.

True, especially if you're on the left. Indoctrination and their lies became obvious and exposed.

The truth is also that, human life always matters to someone, the only question is how far that value is extended and to whom. Your family's of course, friends and neighbors, for sure, your countrymen? Define countrymen, is it based upon tribes and blood ties or some ideal that over time gets twisted into whatever may be desirable for a ruling class and subject to change at their whim, what holds more water, biological reality or meaningless slogans repeated until it's a common enough belief that the lie can perpetuate itself from the indoctrinated while indoctrinating others to infinity, at least until the lie becomes to great to bear or ignore.

 

[Chuz Life]

Government should never, ever interfere with medical care. I read a piece the other day that was the review of the materials that some states legally require doctors to give to abortion patients. The reviews were done by medical professionals. The level of false information in these materials was shocking, and most crafted by people in state governments who seemingly had no medical background.The materials did not contain any references to the sources of the assertions made in them. So much for letting Big Government into doctors' offices.

It is the ultimate in absurdity to think that a person would carry a fetus to term and then decide on the operating table that it should be killed for no reason.

Late term abortion is always for non-viable infants that have things that cannot be detected early. You would know that if the anti-abortion people were not the worst kind of liar.

Yes, your straw man is quite tragic. He was an evil straw man!

Your coping mechanism is showing.

 

[Chuz Life]

No one really wants to ban abortion, not really. The truth of that is in how even the most ardent anti abortion advocates have never thought about what happens next.

Maybe we are not afraid or maybe we not not lack the confidence in our ability to handle what happens next.

Did you ever think about that?

When Supreme Court justice Potter Stewart contemplated that a State could establish that an unborn fetus is a person. . . Neither did he go on to freak out about the downsides of doing.

Neither did the pro-abortion attorney (Sarah Weddington) express any of concern of her own.


Maybe that's because when "Roe" was being decided, they were already living in a world where abortions WERE banned and the sky was NOT falling.

So how long do you want send a woman to jail for having an abortion? Trump was asked this question and he had no answer.

I have no trouble answering this question because I am consistent with my views no matter how much it costs me politically among my friends.

We have many fetal HOMICIDE laws on the books today, where a person can be (and have been) charged with MURDER for killing a child in the womb, even accidentally, during the committing of a criminal act.

I have a hard time seeing why a woman who kills that same child INTENTIONALLY (figuratively speaking) should be charged with anything less.

Human life is cheap. We prove it every day in the amount of death, and the lack of outrage over it.

The jury will take note of your lack of outrage over the millions of deaths caused by abortions.

The jury will also take note of those of us who do take the time to express ours.

 

[Chuz Life]

I am a big states rights guy, and I am not sure any federal court should be deciding if and at what point a fetus becomes human enough to protect it's right to life prior to birth. Beyond the cases of rape, incest, and health of the mother I mean, maybe that decision ought to rest within each state; their voters can make that call or change their position if circumstances change.

Personally, I don't like it after the 1st trimester. That's enough time IMHO to decide what to do, and once viable the fetus can be removed from the womb and given to those who would provide for him/her. Certainly I'd rather see the money spent on aborting the baby to keeping him/her alive.

I disagree with the idea that personhood is something that (constitutionally) can be decided and vary State to State.

Certainly if marriage can't, then neither can personhood.

That is inconsistent with different state laws for capital punishment.

You can’t say you want the Feds to set the rules for the beginning of life but not the end of life.

 

[Norman]

Why Americans Should Applaud the Virginia, New York Abortion Bills​

Why Americans Should Applaud the Virginia, New York Abortion Bills
Americans should applaud the new abortion legislation proposed in states like Virginia and New York. That’s because, in bowing to a progressive agenda, these bills are exposing abortion for what it is: death.
Several states already support abortion up until birth. But only now are Americans causing an uproar over them. That’s because certain politicians appear to not only support and celebrate unrestricted abortion, but also expand it to include newborns. Infanticide. That isn’t something that just concerns the pro-life movement and Republicans. It’s detached from Democrats. It’s out of touch with Americans. It’s atrocious to human beings.... Or it should be.
Americans expressed horror Jan. 28 when Democratic delegate Kathy Tran introduced a Virginia bill she said would allow abortion even while a woman is in labor. Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, a Democrat, made more waves two days later during a WTOP interview where he defended the bill – and suggested leaving babies to die after birth.
“It’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s nonviable. If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
His comments came days after New York Governor Andrew Cuomo signed the Reproductive Health Act (RHA) on Jan. 22. Among other things, the New York law allows late-term abortion “at any time” to “protect a patient’s life or health.” The RHA also repealed protections for born babies that survive failed abortions.
Then there are other states, like Rhode Island, that are making headlines for bills that would repeal bans on partial-birth abortion.
A Jan. 15 Marist poll showed 75% of Americans want abortion restricted to the first three months of pregnancy. Americans cherish a culture of life, and their outcry for the unborn human person is a cause for hope – hope that life might one day champion death.

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The Democrat Party of America - proudly enslaving and murdering Americans since 1840. Just another case of Democrats being Democrats.
Lest we forget, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats are already bought and paid for by the Mexican Cartels funneling Marijuana, Heroin, Cocaine and now Fentanyl to the heartland to do post natal genocidal abortion on voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, upstate New York, and other places
We the Deplorables have to remember what the aims of Democrats are all about especially when the presidential election is at the forefront.

"We need to replace Americans with 3rd worlders, because they aren't having enough kids."

"We need to murder born babies."

 

[Clementine]

Why Americans Should Applaud the Virginia, New York Abortion Bills​

Why Americans Should Applaud the Virginia, New York Abortion Bills
Americans should applaud the new abortion legislation proposed in states like Virginia and New York. That’s because, in bowing to a progressive agenda, these bills are exposing abortion for what it is: death.
Several states already support abortion up until birth. But only now are Americans causing an uproar over them. That’s because certain politicians appear to not only support and celebrate unrestricted abortion, but also expand it to include newborns. Infanticide. That isn’t something that just concerns the pro-life movement and Republicans. It’s detached from Democrats. It’s out of touch with Americans. It’s atrocious to human beings.... Or it should be.
Americans expressed horror Jan. 28 when Democratic delegate Kathy Tran introduced a Virginia bill she said would allow abortion even while a woman is in labor. Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, a Democrat, made more waves two days later during a WTOP interview where he defended the bill – and suggested leaving babies to die after birth.
“It’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s nonviable. If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
His comments came days after New York Governor Andrew Cuomo signed the Reproductive Health Act (RHA) on Jan. 22. Among other things, the New York law allows late-term abortion “at any time” to “protect a patient’s life or health.” The RHA also repealed protections for born babies that survive failed abortions.
Then there are other states, like Rhode Island, that are making headlines for bills that would repeal bans on partial-birth abortion.
A Jan. 15 Marist poll showed 75% of Americans want abortion restricted to the first three months of pregnancy. Americans cherish a culture of life, and their outcry for the unborn human person is a cause for hope – hope that life might one day champion death.

~~~~~~
The Democrat Party of America - proudly enslaving and murdering Americans since 1840. Just another case of Democrats being Democrats.
Lest we forget, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats are already bought and paid for by the Mexican Cartels funneling Marijuana, Heroin, Cocaine and now Fentanyl to the heartland to do post natal genocidal abortion on voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, upstate New York, and other places
We the Deplorables have to remember what the aims of Democrats are all about especially when the presidential election is at the forefront.

Full term babies are people. As the left would say, they are viable and able to live on their own without life support.

Just the thought of killing a near or full-term babies is horrifying. It's murder at that point.

And to say that it's okay to kill them after birth by not giving any medical care is also disgusting. Even the healthiest of babies need to have their airways cleared. Some aborted babies survived the abortion and are left to die. No concern that they feel pain just like anyone else.

Anyone who has children, and loves them, is likely horrified at the thought of that precious newborn being treated like trash. PP is licking their chops at the thought of more mature body parts to sell. The older the fetus/baby, the more money they get. That is why they have a habit of scheduling abortions as late as possible. It's also why they vehemently oppose the women getting ultrasounds. That is the only way a doctor can determine the exact age of the fetus, which is important whether the woman wants to continue or abort. It not only provides a more accurate due date but also would show if a woman was past the time abortions were allowed. Another huge problem they probably have with ultrasounds is that the women can see the "clump of cells" and might not want to kill the baby once they see it.

The left is all about population control and do not value life. We all have choices in life but we all must face consequences of our actions. If a woman doesn't prevent the pregnancy, why not get the abortion early or take the morning after pill? Why the hell wait? Most late term abortions were not done because the baby was deformed or had a fatal condition. The vast majority were merely convenience. It quickly gets to a point where it's not just the woman's body and choice. There is another human being that has a heartbeat and feels pain. I know the radicals will not admit that and would rather women think that fetuses are nothing.

They have revealed just how evil they are by cheering on abortions up to delivery and even immediately after. Doesn't get any colder than that.

Most aborted babies are from black women. No wonder that racist asshole from Virginia thinks they can be killed even after birth. He would rather all black babies end up in trays so PP can piece them out to the highest bidders. That is all they think those lives are worth.

I'm so sick of the left pretending to care about the safety of people. They don't give a shit about the criminals owning the border and harming everyone, including the poor immigrants, in their path. They don't care about the rampant violence on city streets.

Their agenda is population control. Wealth redistribution. One world government. Socialist world. An elite group literally ruling the world. Every damn thing they do, from climate change "solutions" to gun control would take them closer to that goal.

They've become emboldened over the last 10 years. Many are no longer quiet about the real agenda. They likely thought the entire Dem party would support this radical abortion law. I hope this all backfires on them in a major way.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Abortion will wake up America to know the deep state are corrupt to the core

 

[Picaro]

Government should never, ever interfere with medical care. I read a piece the other day that was the review of the materials that some states legally require doctors to give to abortion patients. The reviews were done by medical professionals. The level of false information in these materials was shocking, and most crafted by people in state governments who seemingly had no medical background.The materials did not contain any references to the sources of the assertions made in them. So much for letting Big Government into doctors' offices.

It is the ultimate in absurdity to think that a person would carry a fetus to term and then decide on the operating table that it should be killed for no reason.

Late term abortion is always for non-viable infants that have things that cannot be detected early. You would know that if the anti-abortion people were not the worst kind of liar.

Save the guilty little horrors you people share among yourselves. The horror you would inflict upon society is something you would never take the blame for.

Why are you dodging even the most basic of questions?

The question is meaningless. The real question is: Do women have rights? In your world they do not.

Rubbish argument. When people choose to have sex, they choose to take the risk; it's their choice to risk it. If they have unprotected sex, or their birth control doesn't work, they have no right to terminate another's life because of that. They made their choice, not the child they want to murder because of mere inconvenience; it's ridiculous to claim that denying abortion on demand is depriving any woman of their choices. The only allowable abortions are the health of the mother being endangered or due to non-consensual sex. You can't support the baby then keep your friggin legs closed; we all know where babies come from, so quit pretending they're 'accidents'. We know what is 100% effective at preventing pregnancies.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Those bills are about late term abortions which are illegal with the exception of if the woman's life or health is in jeopardy or if there's a very serious problem with the fetus.

So what these bills are doing is saving lives.

Anyone who is against saving the life of a woman whose pregnancy has gone wrong is just showing that they hate women.

Women have the right to live and not die because their pregnancy went wrong.

Stop twisting what this is about. It's about pregnancies that will never reach delivery because the woman will die. Or it's about a fetus that won't make it to delivery because there's a serious problem or it's not viable outside the womb.

Sick people like you want to kill women. Guess what? If the woman dies that fetus will never be born alive. So you people would rather kill a woman than save her life.

You're advocating nothing short of murder and it's sick.

50% of babies aborted are women.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

The abortion issue proves the educators are a fraud

They cover up science in order to brainwash

Should educator leaders be locked up ?

 

[GreenAndBlue]

poor ol Jimmy Carter. Carries around the bible and goes opposite with his support for the party that murders the most in history